
The Gist
For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.
Latest episodes

Oct 5, 2024 • 31min
BEST OF THE GIST: Terror Edition
Chad Millman, author of "The Detonators," dives into the historical Black Tom Island explosion, America's first act of foreign terrorism. He discusses the cunning strategies of German spies aiming to sabotage U.S. munitions during World War I. Millman also reflects on how these events changed perceptions of German Americans and their impact on U.S. neutrality. The conversation encompasses the importance of remembering this dark chapter in history while connecting it to the complexities of modern military conflicts and expert analysis.

Oct 4, 2024 • 1h 3min
Funny You Should Mention - Nimesh Patel
In this engaging conversation with Nimesh Patel, a stand-up comedian and former SNL writer, he shares his journey towards a more joke-focused style. Nimesh humorously reflects on being kicked off stage at Columbia University and discusses his extensive family of doctors, tackling the absurdities of the healthcare system. He also dives into political humor, critiquing leaders like Modi while linking personal anecdotes to broader social issues, proving that comedy can indeed be a powerful vehicle for discussion.

Oct 3, 2024 • 43min
Wisconsin By A Whisker, Arizona By An Iota
Amy Walter, Editor-in-Chief of The Cook Political Report, dives into the razor-thin margins of the Presidential race, revealing just how tight things are in swing states. She discusses the implications of Jack Smith’s new legal brief regarding Trump’s interference in the 2020 election, raising questions about legality and politics. Walter also explores shifting political landscapes in key districts, highlights rising voter turnout trends, and analyzes the tough battles ahead for Democrats in Republican strongholds. Insightful and timely!

Oct 2, 2024 • 45min
Knucklehead Of State
Jess McIntosh, a sharp Democratic strategist and analyst, breaks down the latest Vice Presidential debate, emphasizing the contrasting communication styles of J.D. Vance and Tim Walz. She reveals how their performances can sway voter perceptions and discusses the ongoing dockworker strike, highlighting their impressive salaries and the broader implications for American goods. McIntosh also dives into the voting patterns of white women and the impact of political rhetoric on key social issues like reproductive rights. A lively discussion that blends politics and humor!

Oct 1, 2024 • 45min
For Israel, Tactics Are Strategy
Dana Milbank, a Washington Post Opinion columnist and author of "Fools on the Hill," joins to dissect the escalating conflict between Israel and Iran, particularly recent missile launches. The conversation highlights the tension between tactical military successes and broader strategic goals. Milbank also dives into the chaos within the Republican Party, revealing the internal struggles between extremist factions and traditional conservatives. His humorous critique of political leadership adds a light touch to the serious landscape of U.S. governance.

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Sep 30, 2024 • 46min
Israel Ponders A "Winnable" War
Steven Simon, a former counter-terrorism advisor for Clinton and Obama, dives into the shifting dynamics of Israel's military strategies. He discusses recent successes against Hezbollah and challenges the long-held belief of a 'no win' scenario for Israel. Simon delves into implications for U.S. foreign policy, Israel's growing independence, and the potential for a decisive victory in ongoing conflicts. The conversation also highlights media scrutiny of political figures like Kamala Harris and the importance of tough interviews in shaping public perception.

Sep 28, 2024 • 30min
BEST OF THE GIST: Dog Food Edition
Tim Harford, an insightful author known for his exploration of disorder, breaks down the merits of chaos in our lives. He argues against rigid routines, advocating for messy desks and scattered thoughts as catalysts for creativity. The conversation shifts to canine health, tackling the trendy obsession with dog gut biomes and highlighting that balanced diets usually suffice. Also discussed are quirky anecdotes about modern pet care, illustrating the balance between chaos and care in our furry companions' lives.

Sep 27, 2024 • 44min
A Barn, A Murder, And The Weight Of Secrecy
Wright Thompson, an acclaimed author known for his deep dives into historical narratives, discusses the haunting legacy of Emmett Till's murder in Mississippi. He shares insights from his book, exploring how people historically obscure uncomfortable truths. The conversation touches on the significance of a barn tied to this tragic event and highlights the challenges of memorializing this dark chapter. Thompson also reflects on the importance of confronting local history to foster understanding and address ongoing issues of racial violence and social justice.

Sep 26, 2024 • 45min
Liberalism As A Way Of Life
Alexandre Lefebvre, an author focusing on liberalism's relevance today, discusses its broader implications beyond politics. He explores how liberalism shapes individual liberties, democracy, and free enterprise, likening these values to the water we swim in. The conversation also addresses the tension between liberal and conservative ideologies and examines the historical evolution of language and its ties to dignity and respect. Lefebvre emphasizes the importance of defending liberal ideals in the face of rising illiberal movements, advocating for a nuanced understanding of its role in modern life.

Sep 25, 2024 • 46min
"Obamaha" For The Win
Steve Kornacki, NBC National Political Correspondent and host of The Revolution podcast, dives into the unexpected electoral dynamics of 2024. He highlights how Omaha, Nebraska, could swing Democratic fortunes, while California remains key for Republican House control. The discussion covers the nuances of mail-in voting and the impact of voter behavior in swing states. Kornacki also dissects polling trends, examines the unique electoral systems in Maine and Nebraska, and explores Kamala Harris's challenges with voter perception.