
The Gist
For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.
Latest episodes

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Feb 24, 2025 • 45min
Outrage: Professor Kurt Gray Plus a Visit From The Proud Boys
Psychology professor Kurt Gray, a leading expert from the University of North Carolina and author of "Outraged," delves into how our evolutionary history as prey has influenced today's moral and political debates. He discusses the dynamics of victimhood, especially how groups perceive threats and the narratives shaped by media. The conversation also touches on the complex interplay of oppressor and oppressed identities, emphasizing empathy in understanding societal conflicts, including contentious situations like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

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Feb 22, 2025 • 24min
Old Mitch and Minerals
Dive into the fascinating world of rare earth minerals and their geopolitical importance, especially in relation to Ukraine. Explore how these resources influence global power dynamics and national interests. Plus, a reflective look at Mitch McConnell and the intricate dance of political trials. From impeachment proceedings to wellness products, the conversation spans the impact of branding in geopolitics, using a musical metaphor to highlight ethical complexities and public perceptions.

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Feb 21, 2025 • 43min
Hizzoner Among Thieves
Jennifer Rogers, a former Assistant U.S. Attorney and law professor, sheds light on the controversial suspension of criminal charges against NYC Mayor Eric Adams. She discusses the implications for the justice system in a politically charged climate. The conversation also touches on the evolving definitions of bribery and the complexities of juries amid media scrutiny. Additionally, they explore the ongoing legal challenges faced by Donald Trump, spotlighting both victories and losses in court.

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Feb 20, 2025 • 1h 20min
Not Even Mad: Noam Dworman, Dan Savage
In this engaging discussion, Dan Savage, a provocative sex advice columnist and podcast host, partners with Noam Dworman, owner of the iconic Comedy Cellar and a keen political commentator. They tackle the non-prosecution of NYC Mayor Eric Adams, debating political accountability. The conversation veers into unique topics like 'goat grinders' linked to Adrien Grenier, the dynamics of mirror pronouns, and the fading trust in media credibility. They even manage to mix in a humorous take on dental dams, blending serious discussion with lighthearted banter.

Feb 19, 2025 • 40min
Marc Dunkelman Dunks on Progressives to Explain "Why Nothing Works"
Marc J. Dunkelman, author of "Why Nothing Works: Who Killed Progress—and How to Bring It Back," discusses the institutional failures plaguing modern society. He contrasts historical visions of progress from Hamilton and Jefferson, critiquing current government inefficacy, especially under the Biden administration. Dunkelman emphasizes the need for self-reflection within progressivism to restore public trust. The conversation also delves into Ukraine's rare earth minerals and the geopolitical implications, revealing the complexities behind resource agreements.

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Feb 18, 2025 • 48min
Eli Lake has Broken History
Eli Lake, a veteran journalist and host of the Breaking History podcast, dives into the narratives that shape our current events. He discusses the rising murder rates in Minneapolis and connects them to the historical trauma from George Floyd's death. The conversation also unpacks the complexities of populism across the political spectrum, revealing the dangers of vague rhetoric. Additionally, Eli sheds light on the Zebra killers, drawing comparisons with the Zodiac case and analyzing how historical contexts influence modern political movements.

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Feb 17, 2025 • 33min
Vic Michaelis and Their Very Important People
Vic Michaelis, a talented comedian and actress known for her work in "Very Important People," shares her insights into the world of improv. She discusses the thrill of dramatic character transformations and the collaborative dynamics with VFX artists. Vic humorously explores superstitions, like knocking on wood, and shares quirky personal anecdotes. The conversation also ventures into the creative origins of unique comic book characters and the impact of cultural influences on her comedic style, all while embracing the spontaneity of performance.

Feb 15, 2025 • 39min
Mike Goes Savage on LoveCast
In this lively discussion, guest Dan Savage, a best-selling author and co-founder of the It Gets Better Project, dives into the complexities of love in today's world. He tackles the challenges of dating amid political divides and navigates the murky waters of relationship dynamics influenced by differing beliefs. The conversation also touches on the changing landscape of masculinity and the evolution of intimacy in modern relationships. With humor and candor, Savage shares invaluable insights on maintaining connections amidst it all.

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Feb 14, 2025 • 33min
Chuck D’s Creative Process
Chuck D, the legendary frontman of Public Enemy and author of Interficial Artelligence, shares insights into his dynamic writing process. He intriguingly compares songwriting to architectural design, emphasizing structure and originality. The conversation also highlights the importance of spontaneity in art and the significant role of imperfections in creativity. Chuck reflects on the dual nature of social media, discussing its potential for artistic expression while cautioning against mindless consumption. His journey encapsulates a blend of innovation and traditional artistry.

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Feb 13, 2025 • 37min
Chuck D on Artificial Intelligence and Interficial ARTelligence
Chuck D, the legendary frontman of Public Enemy and author of 'Interracial Art: Intelligence', shares his insights on the intersection of art and hip-hop. He discusses how visual art serves as a powerful form of self-expression and a therapeutic outlet in today's fast-paced world. The conversation also touches on the cultural symbolism of 1980s youth trends, the struggle for rap music's recognition in major awards, and the need for genuine representation in discussions about U.S. foreign policy, particularly concerning Ukraine.