

Backpacker Radio
The Trek
From the Appalachian Trail to the Pacific Crest and everything in between. Backpacker Radio is a show all about the wonderful world that is thru-hiking and long distance backpacking.
Co-hosts, Zach "Badger" Davis and Juliana "Chaunce" Chauncey muse on the backpacking life and the latest from the trail every other week. Topics include but are not limited to news, trail culture, interviews, gear, advice, and all you can eat buffets.
Co-hosts, Zach "Badger" Davis and Juliana "Chaunce" Chauncey muse on the backpacking life and the latest from the trail every other week. Topics include but are not limited to news, trail culture, interviews, gear, advice, and all you can eat buffets.
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Aug 20, 2019 • 2h 22min
#45 | Chaunce Hiked the AT (Drink), Badger's WRHR Hike, and Upcoming Road Trip
The Cinnamon is Connected for good. Or for bad. But undoubtedly, for the foreseeable future. Chaunce and Badger go deep on the rest of Chaunce's Appalachian Trail thru-hike, including untold poo stories, her take on New Hampshire and Maine, her legendary chafing, how she gained weight while thru-hiking, suggestions for the ATC, and how she plans to combat post thru-hike depression now that she's back in the "real world". We chat about Badger's recent hikes on the Wind River High Route and Pfiffner Traverse. We introduce a brand new segment, Unpopular Opinions and have a Patent Pending. This is a full show, so grab an extra PBR and saddle up. Subjects discussed in the episode include: Use code "TREK15" at GossamerGear.com to save 15% Gossamer Gear The One Gossamer Gear Gorilla Gossamer Gear Liteflex Umbrella How to back flush a Sawyer Squeeze Sawyer Squeeze Sawyer Micro Squeeze Use code "Trek10" at Greenbelly.co Apply to be a Vlogger / Blogger for The Trek! Denver-Area Hiker Trash Meetup San Diego Area Hiker Trash Meetup Backpacker Radio’s first Road Trip!! to Southern California Let us know people we should reach out to, places we should see, cheeseburgers we should eat. Reach out to podcast@thetrek.co Chaunce on the AT Differences between 1st and 2nd half of hike Mahoosic Notch vs Arm Hiking partners/groups on trail/comparison to PCT Favorite stretch in the second stretch of trail Chaunce gained weight on the AT How did my mentality shift towards the end of the hike Midday Meltdowns Things Chaunce would change about the AT Ziplock’s poop story 100 Mile Wilderness illness Hiker hunger and diet on trail The climb up Katahdin Post trail depression Affording a thruhike Zach’s Pfiffner Traverse trip Zach’s Wind Rive High Route trip Trek Propaganda Cari Pattison's AT Injury Segments Unpopular Opinions Patent Pending 5 Star Reviews Intro Song: Walking Slow by Animal Years Check out Trail Correspondents Check out Stories from the Trail Have any praise, questions, praise, comments, praise or praise for Backpacker Radio? Reach out to podcast@thetrek.co. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Download this podcast. Find us on Stitcher and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Christopher Mashburn, S11N, Sawyer Products, Todd Cartner, and Travis Smith A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Gregory Gardner and Peter Leven Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio, and Chaunce on Facebook. Follow The Trek on Twitter and sign up for our newsletter. Intro music via.

Aug 1, 2019 • 1h 31min
#44 | Renee "She-ra" Patrick on Her Triple Crown, Establishing the Oregon Desert Trail, and Her Potent Bearomones
Renee Patrick, known on trail as She-ra is a triple crowner, designer, and all-around Renaissance Woman. In addition to hiking pretty much every trail in the United States and some abroad, she's also served in the Peace Corps, interned at the Smithsonian, and presently serves as the coordinator at the Oregon Desert Trail. She shares stories of being caught in a military coup in Africa, having her pack stolen by a bear, being bitten by a brown recluse on the Appalachian Trail, and building and selling a merchandise company. Of course we've got some Trek Propaganda as well as a very poopy edition of would you rather. Subjects discussed in the episode include: Use code "TREK15" at GossamerGear.com to save 15% Gossamer Gear The One Gossamer Gear Gorilla Gossamer Gear Liteflex Umbrella How to back flush a Sawyer Squeeze Sawyer Squeeze Sawyer Micro Squeeze Use code "Trek10" at Greenbelly.co Apply to join The Trek's class of 2020 Bloggers + Vloggers Peace Corps Appalachian Trail 1999 (drink?) Ray Jardine's books Internship at the Smithsonian West Highland Way Pacific Crest Trail 2006 REI Used Gear Sale The Wonderland Trail Continental Divide Trail She-Ra cartoon TREK PROPAGANDA How to Hike the Oregon Desert Trail by Katie Gerber Getting to Know the Oregon Desert Trail by Renee Patrick Visit the Oregon Desert Trail website! iamhikertrash.com @wearehikertrash Intro Song: Walking Slow by Animal Years Check out Trail Correspondents Check out Stories from the Trail Have any praise, questions, praise, comments, praise or praise for Backpacker Radio? Reach out to podcast@thetrek.co. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Stitcher and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Michael W Hinkley, S11N, Todd Cartner, Sawyer Products, and Travis Smith A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Gregory Gardner and Peter Leven Follow Clare, The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio, and Chaunce on Facebook. Follow The Trek on Twitter and sign up for our newsletter. Intro music via.

Jul 23, 2019 • 2h 21min
#43 | Clay Bonnyman Evans on AT Cults, YouTube Scam Artists, and Trail Murder Statistics
Today we are joined by Clay Bonnyman Evans, aka Pony, who's an author, long time Trek Writer, AT and Colorado Trail thru-hiker, and someone with a deep passion for the trail and its culture. We touch on a wide array of subjects in this episode, including some controversial topics such as the Twelve Tribes and Yellow Deli, Inchworm's tragic death on the AT, bringing a gun on a thru-hike, YouTube scam artists, how privilege pertains to thru-hiking, barfing on poo and way more. Clay is a ball of energy. This episode will likely stir up some fun debate. Subjects discussed in the episode include: Use code "TREK15" at GossamerGear.com to save 15% Gossamer Gear The One Gossamer Gear Gorilla Gossamer Gear Liteflex Umbrella How to back flush a Sawyer Squeeze Sawyer Squeeze Sawyer Micro Squeeze Use code "Trek10" at Greenbelly.co 2019 Thru-Hikers: Submit your completion photos to editors@thetrek.co, including your trail name and start and finish dates. Murder statistics on the Appalachian Trail Lyme disease on the Appalachian Trail InsectShield Clothing Sawyer Permethrin Pony's poo story Nimblewill Nomad 12 Tribes / Yellow Deli on the AT When You Find My Body: The Disappearance of Geraldine Largay on the Appalachian Trail Sam Harris' Podcast Konnarock Trail Crew Bones of My Grandfather: Reclaiming a Lost Hero of World War II by Clay Bonnyman Evans How to Volunteer on the Triple Crown Trails by Becky Booroojian TREK PROPAGANDA Little Skittle's PCT Video's The Truth Behind 9 Common Appalachian Trail Myths by Clay Bonnyman Evans Cinnamon Court Who packs out the trash? Question from Weezer Submit your questions to podcast@thetrek.co 5 Star iTunes Reviews Privilege in thru-hiking Intro Song: Walking Slow by Animal Years Check out Trail Correspondents Check out Stories from the Trail Have any praise, questions, praise, comments, praise or praise for Backpacker Radio? Reach out to podcast@thetrek.co. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Stitcher and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Michael W Hinkley, S11N, Todd Cartner, Sawyer Products, and Travis Smith A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Gregory Gardner and Peter Leven Follow Clare, The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio, and Chaunce on Facebook. Follow The Trek on Twitter and sign up for our newsletter. Intro music via.

Jul 11, 2019 • 1h 14min
#42 | Clare Gallagher
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, I am joined by recent Western States 100 winner, Clare Gallagher. Not only is Clare a world-class ultra runner, she's also a very vocal and passionate environmental activist, Princeton graduate, Patagonia athlete, and all around powerhouse. She shares how she was able to pull off the most important victory in her young ultra running career, the two weeks she spent hanging out with Tommy Caldwell in the arctic leading up the race, all the while doing everything she can to save the world. Literally. I touch briefly on my hike of the Oregon Coast Trail, we have a trail propaganda featuring how to thru-hike as a petite woman, and much more. Subjects discussed in the episode include: Use code "TREK15" at GossamerGear.com to save 15% Gossamer Gear The One Gossamer Gear Gorilla Gossamer Gear Liteflex Umbrella Sawyer Permethrin Use code "Trek10" at Greenbelly.co Running Your First Ultra: Customizable Training Plans for Your First 50K to 100-mile Race by Krissy Moehl Leadville 100 Ultra-Trail Du Mont-Blanc Western States 100 Call them! Andrew Skurka episode FKT for the Joshua Tree Traverse Speak up in favor of H.R. 1146 How to find your local representative Clare Gallagher's website Clare's Instagram Trek Propaganda Thru-Hiking Advice for Small Women How to Dress for an Appalachian Trail thru-hike Song: Walking Slow by Animal Years Check out Trail Correspondents Check out Stories from the Trail Have any praise, questions, praise, comments, praise or praise for Backpacker Radio? Reach out to podcast@thetrek.co. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Download this podcast. Find us on Stitcher and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Michael W Hinkley, S11N, Todd Cartner, Sawyer Products, and Travis Smith A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Gregory Gardner and Peter Leven Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio, and Chaunce on Facebook. Follow The Trek on Twitter and sign up for our newsletter. Intro music via. Featured image taken by Austin Siadak.

Jul 4, 2019 • 1h 29min
#41 | Chaunce (Yes, Juliana Chauncey)
She's baaaaack. Sort of. Halfway. At this year's Trail Days, we caught up with Juliana Chauncey aka Chaunce, who was roughly half way into her AT thru-hike. She regales us with tales from the first 1,000 miles of her trek, including what has surprised her, how her gear system has held up, how it's differed from her PCT hike, and talks about that time she awoke to a stranger humming and dancing atop of her hammock. We do a Triple Crown of Highlights from the southern half of the Appalachian Trail, featuring Jabba, who jumps in and out throughout the show, get a bot's analysis of Backpacker Radio, and get our freshest trail poop story in the history of the podcast. This is a fun reunion show and just a reminder that the cinnamon is still connected. Subjects discussed in the episode include: The Jordan Trail Sawyer Permethrin Chaunce loves her Katabatic Flex Chaunce's tour of Katabatic Therm-a-rest Zlite sleeping pad Chaunce's hammock charmer at Deep Creek Springs Triple Crown of Highlights in the Southern Half of the Appalachian Trail Paul's Boots Song: Walking Slow by Animal Years Check out Trail Correspondents! Have any praise, questions, praise, comments, praise or praise for Backpacker Radio? Reach out to podcast@thetrek.co. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Download this podcast. Find us on Stitcher and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Michael W Hinkley, S11N, Todd Cartner, Sawyer Products, and Travis Smith A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Gregory Gardner and Peter Leven Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio, and Chaunce on Facebook. Follow The Trek on Twitter and sign up for our newsletter. Intro music via.

Jun 19, 2019 • 1h 33min
#40 | Jim Kern + Pox Holiday
Jim Kern is a name you ought to you know. He's the founder of the Florida Trail Association, co-founder of the American Hiking Society, founder of Big City Mountaineers, founder of Hiking Trails for America, author, and passionate outdoorsman. He gives us his best pitch on why someone should hike the Florida Trail, how his organization has been getting at risk youth into the backcountry for three decades, how he's fighting to guarantee a continuous footpath on our national scenic trails for posterity- and how you can help. We also catch up with Pox Holiday of the Pox and Puss Podcast to talk about the future of their show, emergency brown in the whites, and Baltimore Jack stories. Subjects discussed in the episode include: The Jordan Trail Sawyer Permethrin The Trek is hiring a Lead Developer / CTO JIM KERN The Florida Trail Big City Mountaineers American Hiking Society Sign the petition Hiking Trails for America Friends of the Florida Trail Interview with MACHO POX HOLIDAY The Pox and Puss Podcast Baltimore Jack at The Doyle Song: Walking Slow by Animal Years Check out Trail Correspondents! Have any praise, questions, praise, comments, praise or praise for Backpacker Radio? Reach out to podcast@thetrek.co. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Download this podcast. Find us on Stitcher and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Michael W Hinkley, S11N, Todd Cartner, Sawyer Products, and Travis Smith A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Gregory Gardner and Peter Leven Follow Pox Holiday, The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio, and Chaunce on Facebook. Follow The Trek on Twitter and sign up for our newsletter. Intro music via.

Jun 10, 2019 • 2h 12min
#39 | The Real Hiking Viking on The Jordan Trail, "Failing" on The Long Trail, and Upcoming Plans
We are once again joined by Backpacker Radio's most invasive species, otherwise known as The Real Hiking Viking. We hear all about his two month long stint on the Jordan Trail. He tells us all about this trek, the region, its people, the food, and the experience altogether. We also chat about what went wrong on his Long Trail winter thru-hike attempt, and how he opted to swallow his pride instead of putting his life at risk. I briefly touch on thru-hiking with your dog as part of today's Trek Propaganda, and we close out the show with a triple crown of new gear that we're excited to test. Subjects discussed in the episode include: Use code "TREK15" at GossamerGear.com to save 15% Gossamer Gear The One Gossamer Gear Gorilla Gossamer Gear Liteflex Umbrella Sawyer Permethrin The Jordan Trail Jabba's attempt for a winter Long Trail thru-hike The Trek's YouTube Channel Mountainsmith Zerk 40 Thru-Hiking with a Dog Triple Crown of Gear We're Excited to Test Montbell Hugger #2 900 Therm-a-Rest Hyperion Quilt Icebreaker Quantam 260 Native Eyewear Griz Sunglasses Big Agnes Tiger Carbon UL2 Altra Timp 1.5 Song: Walking Slow by Animal Years Check out Trail Correspondents! Have any praise, questions, praise, comments, praise or praise for Backpacker Radio? Reach out to podcast@thetrek.co. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Download this podcast. Find us on Stitcher and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Michael W Hinkley, S11N, Todd Cartner, Sawyer Products, and Travis Smith A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Gregory Gardner and Peter Leven Follow The Real Hiking Viking, Weezer, The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio, and Chaunce on Facebook. Follow The Trek on Twitter and sign up for our newsletter. Intro music via.

May 24, 2019 • 1h 44min
#38 | Legend on his Arizona Trail FKT, The Great Western Loop, and Supergluing His Foot Shut
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, myself plus a special guest co-host are joined by Jeff "Legend" Garmire. He's back, and oh boy does he have new stories to share, including the time he had to superglue his foot shut. We chat all about his previous year, which was arguably busier than anyone in the backpacking world, including his Great Western Loop, a 7,000 mile hike, and his recent Arizona Trail FKT. We go way deep on both of these hikes, when we're not filling the airwaves with laughter. We also unveil a new hiker of the week and a brand new segment, which will also likely be retired after this episode. Subjects discussed in the episode include: Use code "TREK15" at GossamerGear.com to save 15% Gossamer Gear The One Gossamer Gear Gorilla Sawyer's International Website Sawyer Squeeze vs. Sawyer Micro Squeeze Use Code "trek10" at Greenbelly.co to save 10% off your order. Reflections on Stronghold's murder Weezer's back! Weezer's first episode Legend's first Backpacker Radio appearance The Great Western Loop Nolan's 14 Legend's Instagram account Legend's Arizona Trail FKT reflections Legend's Big 3 Gossamer Gear The One Gossamer Gear Kumo Katabatic Flex 22 quilt The Trek Propaganda Top 10 Things I Didn’t Expect About Thru-Hiking by Cari Pattison PR 101 with Legend Song: Walking Slow by Animal Years Check out Trail Correspondents! Have any praise, questions, praise, comments, praise or praise for Backpacker Radio? Reach out to podcast@thetrek.co. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Stitcher and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Michael W Hinkley, S11N, Todd Cartner, Sawyer Products, and Travis Smith A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Gregory Gardner and Peter Leven Follow Legend, Weezer, The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio, and Chaunce on Facebook. Follow The Trek on Twitter and sign up for our newsletter. Intro music via.

May 10, 2019 • 2h 28min
#37 | Jenny & Scott Jurek on the Appalachian Trail Speed Record, Parenting, and What's Next
In 2015, Scott Jurek was the most talked about person on the Appalachian Trail, even the trail community at large. As soon as the legendary ultrarunner announced that he was bringing his talents to Appalachia, a flurry of fanfare and press followed suit. Though his record has been broken a pair of times since, the swell of attention has yet to be matched. Today Jabba and Badger sit down with Scott Jurek and his wife and head crew member, Jenny Jurek, to learn about this FKT, what the undertaking was like from each of their perspectives, how it's prepared them for parenthood, their new book "North: Finding My Way While Running the Appalachian Trail", and much more. We also get an introduction to our newest Thru-Hiker of the Week, "Sochi", who's attempting to become the first amputee to thru-hike the Pacific Crest Trail. Subjects discussed in the episode include: Subjects discussed in today's interview: Book giveaway Use code "TREK15" at GossamerGear.com to save 15% Gossamer Gear The One Gossamer Gear Gorilla Sawyer's International Website Sawyer Squeeze vs. Sawyer Micro Squeeze Check out Scott and Jenny's new book, North: Finding My Way While Running the Appalachian Trail What it's like to run a 24 hour race Jabba drones on about Pennsylvania How he hiked through a torn quadriceps What is was like thru-hiking with so much fanfare Was Jenny caught off guard by the smell of thru-hikers? Hiking through Vermont in a high rain year (Vermud!) Scott's Advice to future FKT attempters Dealing with weight loss Physical and mental toll of his journey Life since his FKT The World is Our Classroom by Cindy Ross Eat and Run: My Unlikely Journey to Ultramarathon Greatness by Scott Jurek Born to Run: A Hidden Tribe, Superathletes, and the Greatest Race the World Has Never Seen by Christopher McDougall Thru-Hiker of the Week Follow Sochi on Instagram Have any praise, questions, praise, comments, praise or praise for Backpacker Radio? Reach out to podcast@thetrek.co. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Download this podcast. Find us on Stitcher and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Michael W Hinkley, S11N, Sawyer Products, and Travis Smith A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Gregory Gardner and Peter Leven Follow Scott Jurek, Jureks on the Run, The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Scott Jurek, The Trek, Backpacker Radio, and Chaunce on Facebook. Follow The Trek on Twitter and sign up for our newsletter. Intro music via.

May 3, 2019 • 2h 9min
#36 | Jon "Airborne" Schwarze on His PCT Yo-Yo
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, Badger is joined by Jon Schwarze, aka Airborne. Despite this being his first thru-hike, last year Airborne became just the fifth person to yo-yo the Pacific Crest Trail (which is to thru-hike the same trail in both directions in less than one year). We go balls deep on everything that went into this trek, including the differences between his NOBO and SOBO hike, his gear, his bizarre and demanding diet, what it was like meeting Scott Williamson, and how his background (despite having limited backpacking experience) played a major role in his success. We also get into some Trek Propaganda, two lies and a truth, a mailbag, and more. Subjects discussed in the episode include: Airborne Interview Recorded at Wayfinder in Denver Use code "TREK15" at GossamerGear.com to save 15% Gossamer Gear The One Gossamer Gear Gorilla Sawyer's International Website Sawyer Squeeze vs. Sawyer Micro Squeeze Use code "thetrek" at us.foursigmatic.com (our link) to save 15% Recorded at Wayfinder in Denver, CO Premature Evaluation: Hoka One One Challenger ATR 5 What is a Yo-Yo? Background in sports Difference calf sleeve makes for hiking How he got his trail name Why he uses tampons His bizarre diet Biggest mileage day Airborne's Gear Enlightened Equipment Enigma NeoAir Xtherm Sleeping Pad Challenger ATR 4 Superior Wilderness Designs Pack SWD Fanny Big Agnes Fly Creek UL2 to REI Quarter Dome 1 Where the mosquitos were the worst Condor Trail The California drought is done TREK PROPAGANDA Wisdom from 2018 Appalachian Trail Thru-Hikers (Pt. I) Wisdom from 2018 Appalachian Trail Thru-Hikers (Pt. II) Wisdom from 2018 Pacific Crest Trail Thru-Hikers (Pt. I) Wisdom from 2018 Pacific Crest Trail Thru-Hikers (Pt. II) Wisdom from 2018 Continental Divide Trail Thru-Hikers (Pt. I) Wisdom from 2018 Continental Divide Trail Thru-Hikers (Pt. II) How to Prevent and Treat 7 Common Thru-Hiking Foot Problems Two lies and a truth Mailbag 5-star iTunes Reviews Danny Devito Song: Walking Slow by Animal Years Check out Trail Correspondents! Have any praise, questions, praise, comments, praise or praise for Backpacker Radio? Reach out to podcast@thetrek.co. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Download this podcast. Find us on Stitcher and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Michael W Hinkley, S11N, Sawyer Products, and Travis Smith A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Gregory Gardner and Peter Leven Follow Airborne, The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow The Trek, Backpacker Radio, and Chaunce on Facebook. Follow The Trek on Twitter and sign up for our newsletter. Intro music via.