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In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Eric Giuliani.  Eric, more or less on a whim, decided to trade his unfulfilling corporate job to circumnavigate the globe without taking a single flight. Yes, 70,000 miles by boat, train, and automobile, and- to make the story even more ridiculous- he relies largely on his very nascent photography skills to barter his way around the world.  We learn all about this massive adventure, including an in-depth accounting for how he pitched hotels to lodge in exchange for his services, how difficult it can be to lay low during high terror alerts as a 6'10" former collegiate basketball player, what it's like to spend several days on cargo ships without any form of entertainment, and more. We wrap the show with a quick chat about Trail Days 2021, a triple crown of things we'd do with a million bucks, and an absurd story about a bear biting a woman's ass in an outhouse. Reel toilet paper discount code: Use code "BACKPACKER" to save 25% at reelpaper.com. Gossamer Gear discount code: Use code "POOPSTORY" to save 15% off your cart at GossamerGear.com Good To-Go discount code: Use code "BACKPACKER25" to save 25% on your order and get free shipping on orders over $100 at Goodto-go.com. [divider] Interview with Eric Giuliani  Eric’s Book - Sky’s the Limit: One Man’s 70,000 Mile Journey Around the World  Sky’s The Limit trailer for Eric’s book  Eric’s Instagram  Eric’s Twitter Eric’s Youtube 00:05:07 - QOTD: What is a movie that inspires you or has inspired you to get outside? 00:11:02 - Where does your travel story start?  00:13:18 - Can you elaborate on why it’s better to hate your job than like your job?  00:15:31 - How did your finances and the philosophy of the travel itself interface with one another? 00:19:42 - So before you left you didn’t actually have the skills you were bartering? 00:23:59 - How far in advance were you booking places out (through bartering)?  00:26:15 - What was your success rate on reaching out to people? What goes into a good pitch for what you were trying to do?  00:28:21 - Did you ever feel any sort of imposter syndrome while doing this?  00:30:15 - Did your pitch start to work better once your portfolio got more built out? 00:32:30 - Did your pitch start to involve more video as you got better?  00:38:19 - Drones are the move. 00:39:28 - Can you share how you chose what destinations you chose? How you formatted the trip? 00:45:24 - Is it even more difficult to lay low as a westerner being 6’10”? 00:47:04 - You’ve mentioned that the bus rides are dangerous, can you explain some of the dangers they pose? 00:49:09 - Were there ever instances during these risky trips that put you on edge? 00:50:40 - Were you doing anything recreationally during the African leg of your journey? 00:52:39 - What happened after Egypt? 00:54:55 - How did you keep yourself entertained on a cargo ship? 00:56:00 - Were there any huge storms on cargo ships? 00:58:44 - Can you talk more about your Europe adventures? 01:04:13 - What were you traveling with? 01:05:35 - Did you buy new stuff as you went along? 01:07:12 - Who did you give the bartered jacket to? 01:08:06 - Were you good at pitching yourself in person before you left or did you hone the craft over the course of your journey? 01:09:11 - When you did pay for things did you ever negotiate? Did you ever haggle? 01:11:00 - What was the primary thread that you enjoyed about this trip? 01:13:33 - Where did you go after Beijing? 01:17:08 - Did you ever have a moment on the ships where you felt like it might sink? 01:19:15 - What does someone do in Antarctica? 01:23:00 - What is the place you are actually staying like? Can you describe the town or whatever it is? 01:24:20 - Do you have any general pieces of advice for anyone who’s interested in doing something similar?   SEGMENTS As Trail Days Moves Forward, Hikers Wonder About Safety by Tina Mullen  The Trek Editorial Internship  Gear Wars: Merino Wool vs. Synthetic Base Layers Katie Kommer  Reddit Brain Buster: What’s a fact that makes you uncomfortable? We’ll start — bones are wet. The strongest species on earth is the dung beetle. Triple Crown of things you would do with a million dollars* *must be selfish, not altruistic  5 Star Reviews Mail Bag  Alaskan Woman Attacked By Bear From Below  A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Jason Lawrence, Austen McDaniel, Andrew, Christopher Marshburn, S11N, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), and Cameron Brown. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Cynthia Voth, Brandon Spilker, Emily Brown, Jeffrey Miller, Mitchell, Zoe Jenkins, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Mark Snook, Peter Ellenberg, Thomas Fullmer, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven, TraskVT.

In today's episode of backpacker radio presented by The Trek we are joined by Ben Lawhon the Director of Education and Research at Leave No Trace.  Not that Leave No Trace needs any introduction, as this is a framework we've spoken about countless times on the show and I'm guessing you were familiar with it before Backpacker Radio entered your lives, but this interview is incredibly important and we think you'll find surprisingly entertaining.  Not only do we go very deep on the proper way to shit in the backcountry including why poop soup is king, but we cover a range of topics including why something as seemingly small as tossing an apple core off the trail can have profound impacts, how social media interplays with Leave No Trace, and the best way to educate others who are in violation of LNT, including why saying nothing can sometimes be the best policy.  We're very sincere in saying that we think you'll find a lot of very interesting tidbits in our conversation with Ben. We wrap the show with a triple crown of 90s sitcoms, how we would handle a docile zombie apocalypse of stinky people, and a mailbag featuring the cinnamon connection invading people's dreams. Backcountry discount code: Use code "BACKPACKER15" to save 15% on your "first" purchase at Backcountry.com/backpackerradio. Gossamer Gear discount code: Use code "POOPSTORY" to save 15% off your cart at GossamerGear.com Good To-Go discount code: Use code "BACKPACKER25" to save 25% on your order and get free shipping on orders over $100 at Goodto-go.com. [divider] Interview with Ben Lawhon LeaveNoTrace.org 00:05:00 - QOTD: What is your biggest LNT non-compliant pet peeve?  00:07:30 - Introduction to Ben Lawhon 00:07:58 - How did you get into conservation? 00:11:07 - What were some of the things you learned in your LNT master course that sparked your interest?  00:13:04 - Is there a trick to instilling LNT ethics in people? Does you notice a correlation with thru-hiking?  00:17:30 - Can you speak to the difference on the AT between the 90’s and now from an LNT standpoint?  00:20:34 - How does a Leave No Trace principle come to be? What is the process for developing them?  00:25:06 - What was the Leave No Trace principle that got cut?  00:26:32 - Are there any instances of principles or techniques being removed?  00:29:28 - Do you ever get people who are frustrated when principles change? 00:31:26 - Does anyone have any failed shitput footage? 00:31:47 - Can you elaborate on plan ahead and prepare?  00:35:14 - What would you recommend to someone who is preparing for a short backpacking trip?  00:37:51 - Can you elaborate on the principle: Travel and camp on durable surfaces? 00:41:06 - When the trail is muddy, should you walk through the mud or go around it?  00:43:41 - Are you seeing increasing issues with people stepping off trail to take the perfect Instagram photo?  00:46:35 - Can you elaborate on the principle: Dispose of waste properly? 00:53:21 - Has the guidance on packing out your toilet paper changed? And does it vary by environment?  00:56:37 - So if your hole is the depth it should be it won’t get dug up? 00:57:24 - Should people cover up the toilet paper with their poop? 00:59:25 - Fact or myth: do menstrual fluids attract bears? 01:00:45 - When should people not bury their poop? 01:03:55 - When people are hiking with their dogs should they bury their dogs poop too? 01:04:10 - Do you know of any compostable diaper liners that you could bury?  01:06:56 - Can you chuck apple cores off into the woods? What is the leave no trace policy on it? What are the biggest problems?  01:10:00 - Can you talk about the leave what you find principle? 01:16:19 - Is there anything about carving into trees  you want to talk about?  01:19:18 - What is the leave no trace stance on cairns? 01:21:32 - Can you elaborate on the principle of minimizing fire impacts?  01:25:02 - You said no fires on the AT in Georgia?  Follow up from Ben on the subject:    See: https://www.georgia-atclub.org/hike-the-a-t/hike-the-georgia-appalachian-trail/frequently-asked-questions   Camping on the trail in Georgia Refer to the guide books for locations. There is camping at all of the shelters or you may camp at one of the many established campsites along the trail or stay in one of the shelters. Learn about and follow Leave No Trace principles and use areas already hardened by use. If you have a fire, please use existing fire rings and be sure your fire is dead out before leaving the area. Be acquainted with no-fire zones such as on Blood Mountain. Refer to the Chattahoochee National Forest website for news and information about fire restrictions that may be in effect.   01:29:31 - Do you think LNT will ever change it’s stance on campfire guidance?  01:32:10 - What about explosive gender reveal parties?  01:33:20 - Can you elaborate on the principle: respect wildife?  01:39:20 - What’s the proper way to approach someone who is violating Leave No Trace? 01:45:14 - How does that apply to online behavior?  01:48:39 - What is Leave No Trace’s social media recommendations on geotagging? 01:52:50 - Where can people go to learn more?  LeaveNoTrace.org   SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda  Trek Ambassadors  Badger Sponsorship is now CLOSED Triple Crown of 90s Sitcoms Reddit Brain Buster: You have an incredible night's sleep, wake up and the world is infested by zombies (9 out of 10 people). They are not lethal. Instead they're painfully boring, obsessed with politics and smell like off codfish. What do you do? Mail Bag  5 Star Review A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Jason Lawrence, Austen McDaniel, Andrew, Christopher Marshburn, S11N, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), and Cameron Brown. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Cynthia Voth, Brandon Spilker, Emily Brown, Jeffrey Miller, Mitchell, Zoe Jenkins, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Mark Snook, Peter Ellenberg, Thomas Fullmer, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven, TraskVT.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by THE Survivorman, Les Stroud.  This interview does not disappoint.  We talk about Les' entry into the world of reality tv- and why he hates the genre overall, he talks a little bit of shit on Bear Grylls, we chat about some of his most precarious moments in the bush, and Les gives us a very compelling pitch on why Sasquatch is probably real. We wrap up the show wondering how we'd run amok if the world was frozen for 24 hours, we learn what Vinegrower's Day is, and I hate on lemon juice. Photo credit: Laura Bombier   Backcountry discount code: Use code "BACKPACKER15" to save 15% on your "first" purchase at Backcountry.com/backpackerradio. Good To-Go discount code: Use code "BACKPACKER25" to save 25% on your order and get free shipping on orders over $100 at Goodto-go.com. Feals.com discount code: Use code "BACKPACKER" for members to get 50% automatically taken off their first order with free shipping at feals.com. Interview with Les Stroud: Survivorman - Les’s Youtube - Les’s Podcast  - Les’s Book — Wild Outside - Les’s New Special — Surviving Disasters 00:05:19 - QOTD: What is the closest you’ve come to using (or have you used) extreme survival skills while backpacking? 00:12:45 - Intro to Les Stroud, how did you get started in the outdoors? 00:14:59 - Was TV inspiring you to get outdoors why you created Survivorman? 00:17:21 - How do you feel about reliance on cell phones for navigation? 00:19:20 - How did you background in music transition into your work in the outdoors?  00:24:38 - Do you know how much all your camera equipment weighs? 00:27:23 - Does it bother you to be mentioned in the same breath as Bear Grylls? 00:30:33 - Did you get to talk to Mike Judge about King of the Hill?  00:31:54 - What is the place you’ll never go? 00:32:12 - Can you talk about reality TV in general? Do you feel like you are being dragged down by the category? 00:36:20 - Can you tell us about the year long honeymoon project?  00:39:33 - Where can someone find Snow Shoes & Solitude? Or any of your stuff? Les’s Youtube 00:39:48 - So you own all the rights to your content?  00:42:20 - Can you give an introduction to the show and your vision of Survivorman? 00:44:25 - How far out there are you when you are filming shows?  00:52:04 - How do you decide where you’re going and how much prep goes into it?  00:56:20 - Les has a podcast: Survivorman with Les Stroud  00:57:23 - What was your favorite food you ever caught?  00:58:21 - Do you bring sleeping bags? Not even in the Arctic?  00:59:02 - How does turtle taste?  00:59:56 - Do you think you would have kicked ass on Fear Factor?  01:00:09 - Did you ever schedule your survivor experiences to avoid exposure/cliffs? 01:00:50 - What’s the biggest mistake you’ve ever made?  01:02:46 - Can we talk about bigfoot?  01:03:11 - Is there an environment that is particularly hard?  01:05:55 - How did you know that beef fat was safe to eat even though it was old?  01:08:30 - Does fire get rid of most diseases and harmful things? 01:09:25 - Did it get more tempting to avoid failures as the show went on? 01:13:41 - What is bigfoot?  01:19:42 - So it’s not one bigfoot? It could be a species?  01:20:40 - Why are there so many people who have seen bigfoot but no game camera has picked it up? 01:24:11 - Do you think aliens is a likely theory for what bigfoot is? 01:25:16 - Could bigfoot be an alien? 01:25:31 - Would you describe yourself as a skeptic or believer?  01:27:22 - Thoughts on the lochness monster? Ghosts?  01:30:06 - You’ve experienced bigfoot? What did you experience?  01:30:38 - Can you tell us about your Surviving Disasters special? 01:31:27 - Les’s book Wild Outside is coming out March 1 01:32:00 - Surviving Life with Les Stroud podcast  01:32:44 - Everything is on Youtube SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda The Best Tents for Thru-Hiking by The Editors  Walking Distance Podcast by Alison Young  Reddit Brain Buster: Time freezes for 24 hours and you are not affected, what do you do? Chaunce's Diet Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Jason Lawrence, Austen McDaniel, Andrew, Christopher Marshburn, S11N, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), and Cameron Brown. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Cynthia Voth, Brandon Spilker, Emily Brown, Jeffrey Miller, Mitchell, Zoe Jenkins, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Mark Snook, Peter Ellenberg, Thomas Fullmer, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven. Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and  Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are once again joined by Andy Downs of the ATC.  For those who might be unfamiliar, the ATC has been under a bit of heat of late for the news of their accepting a very large gift from the Mountain Valley Pipeline, a project they once opposed.  Andy gives us a thorough breakdown on the history of the project, why the ATC is no longer actively opposing it, and answers some of the common critical questions being lobbed in the ATC's direction.  We also dive into the subject of the ATC making the request for people to yet again postpone their thru-hikes on the AT in 2021, how the decision was arrived to, and some key considerations to make for those who are still dead set on hiking the Trail. Zach also outline why The Trek will not be closing the platform to thru-hikers this year, the duo talk about their ideal marriage partner and/or shapeshifter victims, and listeners are blessed with a trio of poop stories to close out the show. Backcountry discount code: Use code "BACKPACKER15" to save 15% on your "first" purchase at Backcountry.com/backpackerradio. Gossamer Gear discount code: Use code "POOPSTORY" to save 15% off your cart at GossamerGear.com Good To-Go discount code: Use code "BACKPACKER25" to save 25% on your order and get free shipping on orders over $100 at Goodto-go.com. [divider] Interview with Andy Downs of the Appalachian Trail Conservancy 00:05:30 - QOTD: Why did Chaunce have to reschedule the show? 00:06:39 - Welcome back to Andy Downs 00:08:00 - You mentioned not being the best thru-hiker can you explain? 00:09:52 - How many times have you been to prison?  00:10:05 - What is your title at the ATC? 00:11:00 - What power line issues were you dealing with yesterday? 00:12:04 - What was 2020 like for you and the ATC? 00:14:18 - What was trail maintenance like on the AT in 2020?  00:16:25 - What is the chain of command with trail maintenance clubs? What exactly does the ATC do? 00:19:20 - Does the ATC provide any funding? 00:20:42 - Does the ATC run the ridge runner program? 00:22:25 - Can you talk about how the Mountain Valley Pipeline history intertwines with the AT? 00:34:16 - Why is this big news all of a sudden? 00:35:36 - What is not being disclosed about the deal and why is that the case?  00:37:54 - Can you speak to the million-dollar bonus you got (joking)? 00:39:47 - Is the money going to go to rerouting in Virginia?  00:44:43 - As someone who fought the pipeline for a while can you understand why people are upset?  00:48:21 - Do you have to advocate for the deal now?  00:49:45 - What is your obligation to the advancement of the pipeline? 00:53:36 - Some people say you are incentivized to help finish the pipeline? 00:55:34 - What are the potential impacts of the pipeline?  01:03:05 - So what are the big downsides?  01:09:35 - Are there large environmental concerns? 01:11:14 - Are the ecosystems around the AT not also considered the ATC’s responsibility? 01:18:00 - Can you talk about the ATC’s stance on Covid-19? 01:27:24 - Does the ATC have any say in trail days?  01:30:18 - Have you had any feedback from trail towns asking you not to discourage hikers?  01:33:10 - What should people know? Where should they stay up to date? Project Planning Reference Materials   SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda Thru-Hiking in 2021, COVID-19, and The Trek’s Platform by Zach Davis  2021 Badger Sponsorship: A $20,000+ Gear Giveaway to Benefit the National Scenic Trails Reddit Brain Buster  You get to pick one person with a 50/50 chance that in the morning you’ll either wake up as them or married to them — who do you choose?  Mail Bag  5 Star Review   [divider] Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Jason Lawrence, Austen McDaniel, Andrew, Christopher Marshburn, S11N, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), and Cameron Brown. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Cynthia Voth, Brandon Spilker, Emily Brown, Jeffrey Miller, Mitchell, Zoe Jenkins, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Mark Snook, Peter Ellenberg, Thomas Fullmer, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven. Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and  Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Philip Carcia.  Have you heard of New Hampshire?  Because Philip has hiked it.  All of it.  Many times, in all different directions.  In addition to a handful of thru-hikes, Philip has completed the New Hampshire 48 Single Year Grid, the White Mountain Direttisima (twice), and White Mountain Redline FKT.  If you don't know what any of that means, good!  We will learn this together during our conversation. We wrap up the show with some news from the ATC, a new snail themed Reddit Brain Buster, we get some intel on the hot spots along the Ice Age Trail, and it's cicada season! Backcountry discount code: Use code "BACKPACKER15" to save 15% on your "first" purchase at Backcountry.com/backpackerradio. Gossamer Gear discount code: Use code "POOPSTORY" to save 15% off your cart at GossamerGear.com Feals.com discount code: Use code "BACKPACKER" to get 50% automatically taken off your first order with free shipping. [divider] Help us raise $100,000 for the trails and we'll get butt tattoos. Check out Hikerlink. [divider] Interview with Philip Carcia Instagram Facebook  00:04:36 - QOTD:  A burglar breaks into your home, but he only wants the stuff on the top of your fridge. What is he going to steal? 00:07:45 - Intro to Philip Carcia  00:10:16 - How did you get into hiking?  00:14:20 - What was your upbringing like until 16 when you went on your first hike?  00:16:22 - Did things snowball immediately after your first hike?  00:24:12 - Tell us what the Single Year Grid is: Hiking all 48 4,000’ mountains every month for a year 00:34:30 - What are the logistics like getting in between each mountain? Is there a lot of driving in between, etc.? 00:38:52 - What makes it appealing to do the same hikes over and over again?  00:43:51 - Fuck, Marry, Kill — the months of hiking in New England 00:47:46 - What’s the difference between the double single winter and a calendar grid?  00:50:58 - Has anyone done the calendar or single year grid since?  00:54:42 - Tell us about the Direttissima and how to pronounce it.  01:00:28 - Is this route all on trail? Off-trail? Roads?  01:03:32 - How steep are the trails that connect the 48? 01:09:58 - You hold a White Mountain Redline FKT — can you tell us what a White Mountain Redline is and about your experience?  01:19:55 - This sounds like one of your most extensive White Mountain feats?  01:20:15 - How intense is it to plan for a White Mountain Redline FKT?  01:30:44 - What are the best of the 48 4,000’ mountains in New Hampshire?  01:31:16 - What is the hardest of the 48 4,000’ mountains in New Hampshire?  01:32:13 - What is the easiest of the 48 4,000’ mountains in New Hampshire?  01:32:37 - If you could only do one of the 48 4,000’ mountains in New Hampshire for the rest of your life, which would it be?  01:33:11 - What is the worst marked of the 48 4,000’ mountains in New Hampshire?  01:33:49 - What is the most underrated of the 48 4,000’ mountains in New Hampshire?  01:35:15 - What is the most overrated of the 48 4,000’ mountains in New Hampshire?  01:38:33 - What is the best named 48 4,000’ mountains in New Hampshire?  01:39:50 - What is a 48 4,000’ mountain in New Hampshire that you’d skip? 01:41:39 - Can you talk about the initiative you founded?  01:47:00 - Where can people keep up with Summits in Solidarity?  Instagram Facebook 01:48:30 - Where do we find Philip?  Instagram Facebook    SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda Black Forest Trail Profile  by Troy Zohner The ATC Will Not Recognize Thru-Hikers During Pandemic by Kelly Floro  Minor Inconveniences  Reddit Brain Buster  After lightning strikes your garden, you gain the ability to communicate with snails and they follow your commands. What will you ask them to do? Cicada Season  Horse Fact from Erin Potter Unlike humans who produce stomach acid when they ingest food, horses always produce stomach acid which makes it essential that they have something to eat so that they don’t develop ulcers. Mail Bag  5 Star Reviews [divider] Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Jason Lawrence, Austen McDaniel, Andrew, Christopher Marshburn, S11N, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), and Cameron Brown. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Cynthia Voth, Brandon Spilker, Emily Brown, Jeffrey Miller, Mitchell, Zoe Jenkins, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Mark Snook, Peter Ellenberg, Thomas Fullmer, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven. Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and  Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Bekah and Derrick Quirin.  In 2017, the Quirins thru-hiked the Appalachian Trail with their adorable baby, Ellie, alongside.  We learn how in the hell this is possible, including their diaper logistics, gear setup, nap schedule, and much more.  The very next year the Quirins cycled the 2,700 mile Great Divide Mountain Bike Route, again, with Ellie in tow.  We learn the of the unique challenges between thru-hiking and thru-biking, the differences between hiking with a baby and a toddler, and much more.   We close out the show with some Badger Baby Q&A, a round of toddler or drunk person trivia, Chaunce gives us her best patent pending invention yet, and Zach does his best to string coherent sentences together despite some punishing sleep deprivation. Gossamer Gear discount code: Use code "POOPSTORY" to save 15% off your cart at GossamerGear.com [divider] Help us raise $100,000 for the trails and we'll get butt tattoos. Check out Hikerlink. [divider] Interview with The Quirins The Dirtbag Baby on Instagram  Valleyforestschool.com for Forest School in Roanoke, VA or Greenville, SC 00:04:20 - QOTD: At what age does a baby become a true thru-hiker? 00:05:46 - Donate to the Butt tattoo campaign 00:06:51 - Introduction to the Quirins who Thru-Hiked the AT in 2017 with their baby, Ellie. 00:08:02 - What was the inspiration to thru-hike with a baby? And how old was Ellie when you took on the thru-hike? 00:09:27 - How old was Ellie when you decided to hike? 00:09:37 - Is it scary to have a 6-month-old and be selling everything? 00:10:50 - Is Ellie just starting to walk when you started the trail? 00:11:26 - Did Ellie walk at all on the trail? 00:12:10 - Where on the trail did Ellie take her first steps? 00:12:45 - Did you hike northbound? 00:13:34 - What are the carrying logistics with gear and the baby?  00:14:37 - How heavy was the whole family’s gear?  00:15:46 - Can you tell us more about your sleep system? 00:16:51 - Was the quilt also made by thermarest? Yes, the Vela HD down quilt. 00:17:16 - What kind of diaper system were you using?  00:18:09 - They make compostable diaper liners? Yes, G-Diapers. 00:18:24 - What was the weight of diaper liners by the time you got to town? 00:20:07 - What was Ellie eating on the trail? 00:20:18 - What age do babies switch from canned mushy stuff to normal stuff? 00:20:51 - Did Ellie have a favorite trail meal?  00:21:47 - Did Ellie’s temperament change on the trail vs. in town?  00:23:17 - How did you guys deal with rain on the AT?  00:24:38 - What pack did you use for Ellie’s carrying case? And how did you decide on that?  00:26:28 - Did you know how steep the northern part of the trail would be? 00:28:21 - What did other hikers think about you hiking with the baby?  00:29:36 - Is Ellie the youngest to do the AT?  00:30:42 - How did Ellie sleep through the night on the AT?  00:32:49 - Does Ellie remember the trail? 00:33:47 - Can you tell us about a high and low point on the AT?  00:38:16 - Can you elaborate on forest school?  00:38:55 - What’s a standard day at forest school like?  00:39:38 - Have you noticed Ellie now has a natural affinity for being outdoors?  00:40:50 - Does Ellie consider being outside normal or being home more normal? 00:42:17 - Do you think having hiked the AT but not having a memory of it will be weird for Ellie?  00:43:38 - Can you tell us about your family bike-packing?  00:44:44 - How does bike-packing compare to hiking with a baby? 00:45:51 - Did you guys have to deal with terrible twos? 00:48:32 - Why did you prefer to ride at night on the Great Divide trip?  00:49:00 - Did you ever see grizzly bears?  00:49:19 - How long did the 2,800 miles take and how long was your average day?  00:49:35 - What kind of mileage were you doing on the AT?  00:50:01 - What’s your approach for the mileage you do on your trips?  00:50:26 - How much did you sleep if you were trying to hike or ride while she sleeps? 00:51:03 - What’s a normal night of sleep for you guys?  00:51:59 - How much does Ellie sleep on trips?  00:53:08 - Was it easier to carry Ellie when she was asleep?  00:54:12 - Tell us about the ambitions of your family moving forward with a second baby on the way! 00:55:11 - Do you think your kids will grow up differently because of their young experiences on trail?  00:58:11 - Was it always a goal of yours with raising a kid to not be stuck to a rigid schedule? 00:59:24 - Does Ellie take it harder when you guys are away since she spent so much time with you at a young age?  01:01:45 - What was Ellie’s first word?  01:03:00 - Any advice for other parents?  01:04:51 - Any staples to carry for the baby?  01:06:50 - How much is a down jacket for a 1-year-old?  01:07:07 - Do you have any brands in mind for babies?  01:09:00 - Any parting words?  The Dirtbag Baby on Instagram  Valleyforestschool.com for Forest School in Roanoke, VA or Greenville, SC   SEGMENTS The 2020 AT Section Hiker Survey: Motives and Logistics by Mariposa  2021 PCT Long-distance Permits Will be Issued; Portal to Open January 19 by Kelly Floro  Patent Pending: Guacarollie  Horse Baby Facts   Dad Q&A  Toddler or Drunk Person?  Triple Crown of NFL teams Chaunce picks: Bills, Buccaneers, Rams  Zachs picks: Chiefs, Packers, Saints  Mail Bag  [divider] Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. 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In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are once again joined by Andrew Skurka- and as you might’ve already guessed, it does not disappoint.  We touch on a range of different subjects in today’s show ranging from how COVID effected his guiding business, to why wildfires have been so bad in the west over the past couple of decades (and the reason might surprise you), to Andrew’s favorite trail meals, to the intricacies of the backcountry bidet, to picking the perfect campsite, to layering in the winter, and much more.  Put simply, you will enjoy this chat. We round out the show with a reminder of our impending butt tattoos, a triple crown of the worst chores, an explosive butthole patent-pending, picking death by shark or mountain lion, and some horse facts, crab edition. Gossamer Gear discount code: Use code "POOPSTORY" to save 15% off your cart at GossamerGear.com Feals.com discount code: Use code "BACKPACKER" to get 50% automatically taken off your first order with free shipping. [divider] Help us raise $100,000 for the trails and we'll get butt tattoos. Apply to be a Trail Correspondent. Check out Hikerlink. How to Get a Job In the Outdoor Industry by Kelly Floro  New Podcast Seeking Research Intern (A Juliana Chauncey Project) Backpacker Radio Book Bundle  [divider] Interview with Andre Skurka Andrew's Previous Backpacker Radio Epsidoe (33) Andrewskurka.com  00:04:49 - Intro to Andrew Skurka 00:06:38 - What has Andrew done since 2019?  00:07:53 - Is it usually bigger nes in the FKT world when someone breaks a record rather than setting one?  00:09:28 - Was 2019 mostly dedicated to the guiding business?  00:10:20 - How did guiding go in 2020?  00:12:15 - What was your thought process on when to pull a plug on a trip for 2020?  00:14:48 - You also dealt with a lot of fires this year correct?  00:15:14 - How many clients are usually on each trip?  00:15:40 - Did you run into any problems with the number of people?  00:17:04 - How are you feeling about trips in 2021?  00:24:41 - Are people going to have to submit whether or not they’ve been vaccinated before going on a trip?  00:25:56 - Did the 2020 fire season impact how you are scheduling trips in 2021?  00:28:09 - What is your personal threshold for hiking in smoke?  00:34:19 - Do you want to speak to what is causing wildfires?  00:37:50 - What is the solution for wildfires?  00:40:20 - Is climate change part of the causes of wildfires?  00:41:00 - The Ted Talk Andrew shared on wildfires.  00:41:19 - Do you have tips for hiking in smoke/near wildfires? 00:43:09 - Would you ever consider making plan B’s for your trips?  00:45:00 - Can you touch on some of the trips you are looking forward to in 2021? 00:49:42 - How active are you with new gear testing?  00:51:10 - Skurka uses a pillow. 00:57:10 - Is there anything else you’ve used this year that you like?  01:01:10 - You’re a hunter right?  01:02:25 - What are some of your favorite backcountry recipes?  01:04:42 - Do you put anything with the protein powder?  01:05:27 - What does Skrurka eat in normal life?  01:06:10 - So you run fasted?  01:10:19 - People want to know about the backcountry bidet?  01:12:22 - Do you bury the things you use to wipe?  01:14:00 - Do you use an accessory? Do you poke a hole in the lid?  01:14:28 - Have you ever thought of making a video that demonstrates?  01:15:48 - How do you know you’re clean at the end?  01:16:39 - Wait, so you don’t just splash the water?  01:18:00 - Do you use soap on your hands after?  01:18:33 - Out of your high route guides, what is your top recommendation for beginners?  01:19:47 - What do you look for in picking the perfect campsite?  01:22:30 - Do you have any advice for beginner winter hiking/snowshoeing/backpacking? 01:28:03 - What do you want to plug?  Andrewskurka.com    Segments How to Get a Job In the Outdoor Industry by Kelly Floro  New Podcast Seeking Research Intern (A Juliana Chauncey Project)  How much money would you have to be paid to be someone’s personal bidet assistant?  Triple Crown of Chores You Hate  Patent Pending: A Washer and Dryer in One Machine  Horse Hermit Crab Facts QOTD: Would you rather be trapped in a cage with a mountain lion or a pool with a bull shark?  Mail Bag [divider] Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Jason Lawrence, Austen McDaniel, Andrew, Christopher Marshburn, S11N, and Sawyer Products A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Cynthia Voth, Brandon Spilker, Emily Brown, Jeffrey Miller, Mitchell, Zoe Jenkins, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Mark Snook, Peter Ellenberg, Thomas Fullmer, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and  Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.

Today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, is 2020 personified. And by that, I mean it's a genuine shit show. Today's show runs the gamut, we drunk dial some fans, introduce a slew of new segments, play some trivia (grab a drink if you'd like to play along), and are given a play-by-play of some soiled denim courtesy of The Real Hiking Viking. As if that weren't enough the trio consumes enough adult beverages to commit to getting quasi-matching butt tattoos if you, our Backpacker Radio listeners, deem it worthwhile. This is our longest episode yet, by a lot, and exceptionally weird.  Strap in. Zpacks discount code: Use code: BPRPLEX for $25 off any plex tent at zpacks.com. [divider] Help us raise $100,000 for the trails and we'll get butt tattoos. Backpacker Radio Book Bundle  Thru-Hiking Coaching with Zach and Chaunce How to Save Money for a Thru-Hike by Kelly Floro discount code: Use code: IPOOPED for 15% off. True Thru-Hiker Shirt & Mug [divider] 00:03:50 - QOTD: What would you put in a 2020 time capsule?  00:08:09 - 2021 Predictions  00:59:00 - Drunk Dialing The Real Hiking Viking  01:08:24 - Drunk Dialing with Smelly Melly / Frontline 01:15:00 - Drunk Dialing with John 01:19:00 - BPR stats  01:25:41 - Drunk Dialing with Julian  01:28:30 - Drunk Dialing with Katie  01:32:55 - Top 10 Countries that listen to Backpacker Radio  01:35:38 - Pits and Peaks of 2020 01:40:00 - Drunk Dialing with Chirstopher Marshburn  01:48:21 - Drunk Dialing with Crystal  01:58:10 - Drunk Dialing with Katie Again 01:59:30 - Drunk Dialing with Kate aka Stickerz  02:09:18 - Drunk Dialing with Rob 02:18:00 - Drunk Dialing with Logan and Kevin 02:26:21 - Trivia with Zach  02:47:27 - Drunk Dialing with Nicholas  02:52:50 - Surprise appearance from Ballflap 02:57:40 - Drunk Dialing with Dot 03:10:00 - More Pits and Peaks  03:19:27 - Drunk Dialing with Zane and Anton  03:35:00 - (ISH?) The beginning of the butt tattoo discussion 03:51:00 - Mail Bag    Comment _____ to win a sticker  [divider] Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Jason Lawrence, Austen McDaniel, Andrew, Christopher Marshburn, S11N, and Sawyer Products A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Cynthia Voth, Brandon Spilker, Emily Brown, Jeffrey Miller, Mitchell, Zoe Jenkins, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Mark Snook, Peter Ellenberg, Thomas Fullmer, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and  Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, we are joined by Cindy Ross.  Cindy is a bonafide renaissance woman.  She's published nine books, with two more on the way, she's a triple crowner, illustrator, and avid traveler. But, the bulk of our conversation today centers around Cindy's novel approach to raising children.  In a nutshell, Cindy and her husband believe that kids should fold into your lifestyle, and not the other way around, as evidenced by their family of four taking on the CDT in section hikes beginning when their kids were just toddlers.  Cindy schools us on experiential education, the trick to successful homeschooling, and why you shouldn't let kids get in the way of your adventurous pursuits.  Whether you have kids, are planning on it in the future, or not, I am confident you will enjoy our conversation. We also do the triple crown of sauces, unveil 2020's naughty and nice lists, and hop in our time machines and prevent the development of two movies.  Zpacks discount code: Use code: BPRPLEX for $25 off any plex tent at zpacks.com. Gossamer Gear discount code: Use code "POOPSTORY" to save 15% off your cart at GossamerGear.com Backpacker Radio Book Bundle  Thru-Hiking Coaching with Zach and Chaunce How to Save Money for a Thru-Hike by Kelly Floro discount code: Use code: IPOOPED for 15% off. True Thru-Hiker Shirt & Mug [divider] Interview with Cindy Ross Cindy’s website  [divider] 00:03:36 - QOTD: What is the best book you’ve read in 2020?  00:09:52 - Cindy Ross, will you tell us about your background?  00:13:58 - So you were a trail angel to your husband?  00:14:21 - How did you keep in touch with your husband? Did you have an initial romantic interest? 00:16:43 - Do you think getting the same injury is a symbol of romance?  00:17:13 - What years did you hike the AT?  00:17:25 - What did the AT look like in the ’70s compared to now?  00:17:54 - How many people were you seeing on the AT? 00:18:06 - Was the trail as maintained as it is now?  00:18:33 - You did the AT in two halves? Where did you start each time? 00:18:56 - What was the typical demographic on the AT at the time?  00:19:16 - What was the hostel culture like?  00:19:43 - What were resupplies like?  00:20:23 - So you hiked the AT with a friend? 00:21:03 - Were there trail logs when you hiked the AT? 00:21:14 - Do you still have your gear?  00:22:05 - Your book is also a sketchbook right?  00:22:17 - What does your process look like?  00:22:37 - Did you make your own shelter?  00:22:44 - How did you know what to make?  00:23:44 - Did anyone want to buy the gear you made?  00:24:17 - What inspired you to continue the AT in ‘89? 00:24:44 - Did you end up liking the second leg more? 00:25:42 - Is there anything else you want to say about the AT? What differences do you notice between the AT in the late ’70s and today?  00:27:10 - Do you think the ATC should institute a permit system?  00:28:34 - When was your PCT hike? 00:28:38 - What was the PCT like in ‘82 and ‘84?  00:28:58 - Who was “we” on the PCT?  00:29:50 - Did you find people in the desert section of the PCT?  00:30:15 - Was the trail well marked at the time? Did you get lost?  00:30:58 - Through the desert, what were your longest water carries?  00:31:34 - Did you know what you were signing up for when you started the PCT?  00:31:54 - Did you dislike snow travel before the PCT? 00:33:29 - Were you carrying any devices to help you? 00:33:43 - Did you have anything like an InReach?  00:34:00 - What was it like to hitch in the ’80s? Did people know what you were talking about when you said you were hiking the PCT? 00:34:54 - What did you tell people when you are hitching?  00:36:37 - How much do llamas cost?  00:37:41 - What are the advantages of llamas over horses?  00:38:21 - What’s the maximum weight you can put on a llama? Specifically in terms of a kid? 00:39:14 - Did you know anything about llamas previously? 00:40:12 - Did you just borrow the llamas for the duration of the trail? 00:40:50 - How do you maintain a llama? 00:41:38 - How long do llamas usually live? 00:41:49 - Do you have any llama facts?  00:42:43 - Do you grow attached to llamas like you would a dog?  00:44:20 - When the llamas are walking do they have reins? How does that work?  00:45:40 - Do you just tie the llamas to a tree when they get to camp? 00:45:53 - Were there any first aid considerations for llamas?  00:46:43 - Did you ever have to worry about mountain lions?  00:48:37 - Do you still have llamas today? 00:48:52 - Are llamas lonely if they only have one? 00:49:12 - Can your goats carry gear?  00:49:30 - So the goats are just for companionship? 00:49:42 - How far can goats go? 00:50:10 - Can you tell us about the logistics of hiking with kids? How old were your kids on the CDT? 00:50:56 - Are there kid seats for the llamas? 00:51:29 - Did you have any hesitations about bringing your kids?  00:52:00 - Was sleeping with young kids an issue on the trail? 00:55:00 - How would the kids describe their experience?  00:55:37 - Can you offer a synopsis of what your kids wrote?  00:57:07 - Do your kids have tons of pets now?  01:01:37 - Was teaching your kids on the CDT in place of “actual” schooling? 01:02:55 - Was the Camino a cycling trip?  01:03:08 - Why are your kids so bright? 01:04:20 - How do you decide what is important to learn and what’s not? How do you decide what to focus on for homeschooling? 01:06:12 - Did you worry about the kids socially?  01:08:59 - Do you think giving kids the ability to choose their schooling made them want to learn more?  01:09:47 - When Bryce wants to learn about tsunamis, did you also have to learn about tsunamis? 01:10:29 - What is your kid’s relationship with technology today, since they grew up without TV?  01:11:29 - What is your take on parenting where screens are used so often? 01:15:08 - What advice do you have for other people wanting this lifestyle for their kids?  01:17:26 - Can you speak to the scientific studies about kids doing better in nature?  01:20:57 - Is there an audio version of your book? 01:21:16 - Can you define experiential education?  01:22:33 - Is there any risk of exposing your kid to stress?  01:24:30 - Are your kids still very outdoorsy? 01:24:50 - How old are your kids now?  01:25:02 - Was Sierra conceived in the place of her namesake? 01:25:47 - Can you really time the gender of your kid?  01:26:28 - Can you give us a rundown of your two new books coming out?  01:27:43 - Can you talk about some of the stories that inspired your book?  01:29:08 - Is it unanimous that the trail was the healing the veterans were looking for?  01:30:20 - Is there science to back up the efficacy of long-distance hiking and healing? 01:33:38 - What kind of carpentry skills did you have before building your log cabin?  Todd Gladfelter - Chainsaw artist (Cindy’s husband) Bryce Gladfelter - Illustrator (Cindy’s son)  01:35:19 - What are the metaphors people can take away from building a marriage while building a log cabin?  01:38:20 - Where should people go to hear more from you?  Cindy’s website    Segments Trek Propaganda  Gossamer Gear The DCF One Ultralight Tent Review Gossamer Gear The DCF Two Ultralight Tent Review Triple Crown of Sauces  2020 Naughty and Nice List How long is too long to leave up the holiday lights? And when should people take them down?  Mail Bag 5 Star Reviews [divider] Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Jason Lawrence, Austen McDaniel, Andrew, Christopher Marshburn, S11N, and Sawyer Products A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Cynthia Voth, Brandon Spilker, Emily Brown, Jeffrey Miller, Mitchell, Zoe Jenkins, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Mark Snook, Peter Ellenberg, Thomas Fullmer, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and  Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.  

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek we are joined by Dr. Kristina Kiefer (that's back to back doctor episodes for those keeping score at home).  Dr. Kiefer is a veterinarian with a PhD in Veterinary Regenerative Medicine from the University of Minnesota.  But, of greater interest to you, not only does Dr. Kiefer have the medical expertise to advise about hiking with your dog, but she also walks the walk, having done significant miles on trail with her own pup.  Although we've broached the hiking with your dog subject on previous podcasts, Dr. Kiefer offers us concrete advice rooted in science. And seeing as both of your Backpacker Radio co-hosts are dog obsessed, we cover A LOT of ground in this interview ranging from how much weight a dog should carry, to what ages are appropriate for dogs to go on long distance hikes, to which breeds are best for backpacking, and more.  If you hike with your dog, are planning to one day hike with a dog, or just want some juicy #dogfacts, you will enjoy this conversation. We introduce a new segment, Dad Stuff, answer some burning listener questions, and chat about winter thru-hiking the AT.    Gossamer Gear discount code: Use code: POOPSTORY for 15% off your purchase at gossamergear.com. Zpacks discount code: Use code: BPRPLEX for $25 off any plex tent at zpacks.com. [divider] Backpacker Radio Book Bundle  Thru-Hiking Coaching with Zach and Chaunce How to Save Money for a Thru-Hike by Kelly Floro discount code: Use code: IPOOPED for 15% off. True Thru-Hiker Shirt & Mug [divider] Interview with Dr.Kristina Kiefer @kristinakiefer @barefootprofessordvm www.vetssmart.com [divider] QOTD: What is something in your car’s center console that you derive too much joy from?  00:07:00 - How did you get into veterinary school and when did you know that animals, specifically dogs, were a passion of yours?  00:08:06 - How competitive is vet school?  00:08:48 - Is vet school cutthroat like law school?  00:11:03 - What is the most common procedure that you do?  00:11:38 - Are there dogs that are more likely to tear their ACL’s? 00:11:55 - Which breed is at the vet most often?  00:12:30 - What goes wrong with the dogs with smushed faces?  00:13:18 - Is it true that mutts are generally the healthiest?  00:14:47 - Where do Australian shepherds fall on the scale of health?  00:15:47 - Is there an inbreeding component to overbreeding? 00:16:52 - If you had to design the perfect trail dog, what would you pick?  00:17:49 - How do you feel about those dog genetic test kits?  00:19:04 - What are some of the key considerations people should take before bringing their dog on a thru-hike?  00:21:03 - What signs would you look for in a dog that isn’t having a good time? What cues can you look for that your dog isn’t doing well on a hike? 00:23:21 - Is it true that you shouldn’t put more than 10% of a dog’s weight in their pack?  00:24:44 - Do you have a recommendation for adjusting how much you are feeding your dog? 00:25:50 - What supplements were you giving your dog?  00:27:04 - Do you use the same food on the trail as you do at home? 00:27:47 - How big is your dog?   00:29:54 - Is there one ideal brand you would recommend?  00:30:54 - What do you feed your dog?  00:31:40 - Are there any specific ingredients you should look out for that will help or hurt?  00:34:19 - Is CBD good for dogs? 00:36:09 - Is CBD something you would consider giving your dog?  00:36:32 - Would you use CBD for anxiety for dogs?  00:37:44 - Does Harper’s nose turn pink because of allergies?  00:38:37 - Do you put sunscreen on dogs?  00:39:15 - If someone was walking with a light-skinned dog is that sunscreen something they should consider?  00:41:21 - What should someone consider before taking their dog on the PCT? 00:43:59 - Would you get your dog rattlesnake trained?  00:48:08 - Do you get special booties for your dog?  00:50:41 - How do you know when to put booties on your dog?  00:53:05 - What is Musher’s Secret?  00:53:24 - Would you put it on without the booties? 00:54:00 - Did you put anything on your dog’s paws overnight?  00:54:30 - How did you keep your dog from licking off the salve?  00:55:07 - Would you recommend someone go to the groomer throughout a thru-hike?  00:57:31 - Do all dogs need booties? And in what conditions do dogs need them?  00:58:45 - Can you do the run-through of the backpacking you’ve done with your dog?  00:59:47 - What age should dogs start backpacking? 01:02:44 - What signs should people look for that their dog might be too old for hiking or backpacking? 01:04:38 - Are there clear cut signs that a dog is having a terrible time on a hike?  01:08:07 - Would you recommend certain commands for people to learn before taking their dog on trail?  01:11:44 - Do you have tips for someone trying to train their dog for trail commands? And how do you feel with positive reinforcement being the only thing you use to train your dog?  01:13:09 - How do you train a dog (Harper) to go to your side or behind? 01:16:39 - Is there a side that’s easier to start with? 01:17:23 - Where can people keep up with Kristina?  @kristinakiefer @barefootprofessordvm www.vetssmart.com 01:18:37 - What kind of services do you offer through your website?    SEGMENTS   Trek Propaganda Use code: ihike for Patagonia Merch Is a Winter AT Thru-Hike Right For You? By Eloise Robbins Horse Ostrich Facts Dad Stuff! With Zach: Engine Lights IG Q&A What’s the best beer for trail magic? What’s the best piece of simple advice you have to offer? How do you handle backpacking with lightning in Colorado? Is there a chance mountain lions came back to the Appalachian mountains?  I wanna thru-hike but I already wasted 10 years of my life, what do I do? Most memorable view?  Chaunce Tea Plantation Pic What gives you the right?  5 Star Review [divider] Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Jason Lawrence, Austen McDaniel, Andrew, Christopher Marshburn, S11N, and Sawyer Products A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Cynthia Voth, Brandon Spilker, Emily Brown, Jeffrey Miller, Mitchell, Zoe Jenkins, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Mark Snook, Peter Ellenberg, Thomas Fullmer, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and  Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.