
Power of Ten with Andy Polaine
In the Power of Ten podcast, Andy Polaine talks to guests from a broad range of disciplines about the intersection of design, technology, psychology, organisations, culture and society. The show looks at how design operates at many levels and in many forms, from thoughtful detail through organisational transformation to the changes in society and the world.
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Oct 26, 2022 • 47min
S2 Ep28: Jason Mesut - Shaping Design
Power of Ten is a podcast hosted by Andy Polaine about design operating at many levels, zooming out from thoughtful detail through to organisational transformation and on to changes in society and the world.
My guest in this episode is Jason Mesut who many know from IXDA conferences and his writing on Medium, particularly Shaping Design. Here we talk about design's role in helping cope with the complex wicked problems facing us, design leadership, design teams and how they self-reflect, direct their future and develop others.
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Sep 27, 2022 • 48min
S2 Ep27: Joff Outlaw - The Art of Engagement
Power of Ten is a podcast hosted by Andy Polaine about design operating at many levels, zooming out from thoughtful detail through to organisational transformation and on to changes in society and the world.
My guest in this episode is my friend and ex-colleague, Joff Outlaw, Managing Director of DesignIt for Australia and New Zealand, having taken over from Katja Forbes who was on the show a few months ago.
Joff has led design and consulting teams across the UK and Australia, with project work spanning across all industry verticals. He has a passion for Design, CX consulting and building successful and happy teams.
Here Joff talks about his key passion of helping clients through the sales process, which means taking the the time to truly understand an organisation’s short term and long term goals. And why he hates sourdough.
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Jul 15, 2022 • 45min
S2 Ep26: KA McKercher - Beyond Sticky Notes
Power of Ten is a podcast hosted by Andy Polaine about design operating at many levels, zooming out from thoughtful detail through to organisational transformation and on to changes in society and the world.
My guest in this episode is KA McKercher, a designer and writer living on Aboriginal land in Australia. They have over 10 years experience leading social innovation and co-design approaches across Australia and New Zealand, previously working as Principal at The Australian Centre of Social Innovation, the Innovation Unit and the NSW government. Most recently KA has gone independent offering service design and co-design training, coaching, resources and support for senior leaders.
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Jun 22, 2022 • 50min
S2 Ep25: Seb Chan - Looking Backwards to the Future
Power of Ten is a podcast hosted by Andy Polaine about design operating at many levels, zooming out from thoughtful detail through to organisational transformation and on to changes in society and the world.
My guest in this episode is Seb Chan, Chief Experience Officer at ACMI - the Australian Centre for the Moving Image in Melbourne - championing human centred design approaches across the museum. Prior to ACMI, Seb led the digital renewal and transformation of the Cooper Hewitt Smithsonian Design Museum in New York (2011–15) and the Powerhouse Museum’s pioneering work in open access, mass collaboration and digital experience during the 2000s. He's also Adjunct Professor, School of Media and Communications, in the College of Design and Social Context at RMIT.
In this episode we talk about Seb's work, but also some of the history of interactive media that informs our views and understanding of where the state of the art is today.
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May 6, 2022 • 47min
S2 Ep24: Thejus Chakravarthy – Make Work Suck Less
Power of Ten is a podcast hosted by Andy Polaine about design operating at many levels, zooming out from thoughtful detail through to organisational transformation and on to changes in society and the world.
My guest in this episode is Thejus Chakravarthy, an operational consultant that focuses on people, process, and technology, in that order. Currently, he says he has his hands full as the full-time COO of one company and a C-suite consultant for another. His primary focus is on how we can make work suck less. To that end, he spent 15 years designing instructional systems, the last 5 years expanding into operational systems, and wrote Brushfire and The Flywheel and The Lever.
In this episode we talk about why operations is the place to make the structural changes in organisations to make work suck less and why systems thinking is the underlying key to it all.
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Apr 5, 2022 • 43min
S2 Ep23: Teresa Torres - Continuous Discovery Habits
Power of Ten is a podcast hosted by Andy Polaine about design operating at many levels, zooming out from thoughtful detail through to organisational transformation and on to changes in society and the world.
My guest in this episode is Teresa Torres, an internationally acclaimed author, speaker, and coach. She teaches a structured and sustainable approach to continuous discovery that helps product teams infuse their daily product decisions with customer input. She’s coached hundreds of teams at companies of all sizes, from early-stage start-ups to global enterprises, in a variety of industries and is the author of the book Continuous Discovery Habits.
In this episode we talk about continuous discovery habits, why discovery is a team sport and not just the domain of design, and why product (and service) teams need to address the ethics of what they're creating.
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Feb 28, 2022 • 50min
S2 Ep22: Jorge Arango – Information Gardens
Power of Ten is a podcast hosted by Andy Polaine about design operating at many levels, zooming out from thoughtful detail through to organisational transformation and on to changes in society and the world.
My guest in this episode is Jorge Arango, a consultant, author, speaker, and educator and host of The Informed Life, a podcast that explores how people organize information to get things done on which I was a guest.
Jorge is the co-author of the famous “polar bear book”, Information Architecture: For the Web and Beyond, that he wrote with Louis Rosenfeld, Peter Morville. More recently he published Living in Information: Responsible Design for Digital Places.
We talked about organising information, personal knowledge management systems and why gardens are the best metaphor for working with complexity.
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Jan 25, 2022 • 36min
S2 Ep21: Tutti Taygerly - Make Space to Lead
Tutti Taygerly, executive leadership coach and professional speaker, talks about the importance of making space for leadership, taking downtime for reflection, and overcoming imposter syndrome by naming and externalizing resistance.

Nov 23, 2021 • 28min
S2 Ep20: Nir Hindi - The Art Mindset for Business
Power of Ten is a podcast hosted by Andy Polaine about design operating at many levels, zooming out from thoughtful detail through to organisational transformation and on to changes in society and the world.
In this episode my guest Nir Hindi, Founder of The Artian and host of The Artian podcast, speaks of the power of art to drive originality and novelty in business and why he believes it is necessary for the future of organizations.
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Oct 15, 2021 • 43min
S2 Ep19: Donna Spencer – Presenting Design Work
Power of Ten is a podcast about design operating at many levels, zooming out from thoughtful detail through to organisational transformation and on to changes in society and the world.
My guest in this episode is Donna Spencer, an independent design consultant with 20-plus years of experience across the entire design spectrum. Donna is recognised internationally as a leading UX practitioner, is a regular conference speaker and has written five books, including A Practical Guide To Information Architecture, Card Sorting and Presenting Design Work. Many listeners will know her for co-creating the UX Australia conference, which she ran for nine years.
Here Donna speaks about her experience, her books, the need to present design work well. And we talk about how Dungeons & Dragons is an excellent way to learn about facilitation.
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A practical guide to information architecture
Card sorting: Designing usable categories
How to write great copy for the web
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