
The Future of Art
Art has never accelerated faster than today, and the digital art era is here. AI empowers anyone to create it. Blockchain technologies allow anyone to own it. VR, AR and mixed reality immerse us in it.
Roger Dickerman talks to the artists and innovators who define galleries, apps, games, movies, social networks, and far more.
Latest episodes

Sep 21, 2023 • 60min
Connor Grasso: Alaskan Origins, Psychedelics, and the Human Experience
Connor Grasso is a psycho-conceptualist artist. He explores the inner-workings of the mind, conscious and human experience and he leverages a variety of inspirations including his artistic lineage, his Alaskan origins, and psychedelics. In this interview, we catch Connor fresh off of his first solo exhibition. We dig into that, his process stories from Alaska, and his wide range of work in the web3 space with his own art as well as with the Shiller team.

Sep 14, 2023 • 1h 1min
Joey L: Human Curation, Antique Inspiration, and a Love Letter to Ethiopia
Joey L. is a Canadian-born, New York-based photographer and director. His work spans prominent brands, including National Geographic and History Channel, and celebrities, including Jennifer Lawrence and Robert De Niro. In this interview, Joey discusses the dance and the balance between commercial opportunity and personal fine art, and the pursuit of things he finds interesting and fulfilling. The conversation ranges from antique origins to his eight pound physical book, Ethiopia, to entering the crypto art space with his photography, to his annual pilgrimage, Halloween in Brooklyn.

Sep 7, 2023 • 53min
Ryan Koopmans: Architecture, Nature, and Long Term Vantage Point
Ryan Koopmans is an artist exploring the relationship between nature and architecture - how societies have been shaped by built environments. He has sold work at Sotheby’s and SuperRare. He’s been collected by Jim Carey, yes, that Jim Carey. Ryan is thoughtful about his art, his minting, his use of mechanics and his collectors. He has a strong long-term vantage point and that really shines through in this interview.

Aug 31, 2023 • 57min
Mariana Makwaia: Artistic Sovereignty, Optionality, and Experimentation
Mariana Makwaia, an artist blending photos, videos, analog, and digital music, explores artistic sovereignty, optionality, and the value of blockchain. They discuss NFTs, artistic control, collaboration between musicians and visual artists, and the fusion of physical and digital art spaces. Mariana also shares their upcoming music projects and collaborations.

Aug 24, 2023 • 58min
NorCal Guy: Click, Create, and Collect
NorCal Guy is a considerate art collector who values original thought. He is the host of NorCal and Shill podcast. He is the founder of ClickCreate, premium curated digital art collection. He's the founder of One Exposure, a collective art piece based around one single camera. And he is a biscuit, yes, biscuit, king and connoisseur. We get into his backstory, art collecting, brand formation and the future of digital art.

Aug 17, 2023 • 1h 20min
Durk van der Meer & Justin Wetch: 3D, Design Principles, and Future Proofing
Durk van der Meer and Justin Wetch discuss 3D art, design principles, immersive experiences, and the future of art. They explore the use of augmented reality and virtual reality in displaying and creating artwork. The speakers also highlight the importance of interactivity and storytelling in showcasing art through apps. The podcast includes delightful stories about Easter eggs in projects and potential future guests for upcoming episodes.

Aug 10, 2023 • 57min
Ayla El-Moussa: Waves, Sacred Geometry, and Visual Philosophy
Ayla El-Moussa is an artist known as the queen of waves. She harnesses the power of those waves, sacred geometry and self portraiture to create dreamlike environments that have captivated the digital art space. She's released at Christie's, she's collaborated with Playboy, 6529 and Noble Gallery.

Aug 3, 2023 • 1h 21min
Michael Kutsche: Character Design, Mythology, and Parallel Worlds
Michael Kutsche is a principal character designer for countless feature films, including Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland, and he's worked with Disney, DreamWorks, Marvel, Sony, Warner, Sega, and so many more. He is an artist who exists at the intersection of century spanning artistic movements and mythical creatures, historical figures, and pop culture. He creates paintings and animations that evoke nostalgia, exist in parallel realities, and would have us consider the human condition.

Jul 27, 2023 • 1h 12min
Grant Yun: Neo-Precisionism, Nostalgia, and a Palette Born in the Midwest
Grant Yun is an artist and self-titled neo-precisionist with a diverse set of influences ranging from nostalgia in video games; to art history in museums; to a distinct color palette born in the Midwest. He exploded onto the NFT scene in 2021 and he's since compiled a 'who's who' of collectors, auction houses, and enthusiasts. Grant is disciplined in creative process, realistic in his assessment of digital art today. He's a proponent of physical display and he's someone who takes nothing for granted in his pursuit of contemporary art relevance and legacy.

Jul 13, 2023 • 1h 12min
J.N. Silva: Fractals, Photography, and Building an Artist Collective
J.N. Silva is a Renaissance man, artist, photographer, blockchain advocate, community thoughtleader. They’re a good start, but the whole is far greater than the sum of his parts. He is the founder of Animus, an artist collective dedicated to advancing the future, and he is the executive producer of Buscando America, a film being constructed through Web3.