
The Future of Art
Art has never accelerated faster than today, and the digital art era is here. AI empowers anyone to create it. Blockchain technologies allow anyone to own it. VR, AR and mixed reality immerse us in it.
Roger Dickerman talks to the artists and innovators who define galleries, apps, games, movies, social networks, and far more.
Latest episodes

Dec 8, 2024 • 1h 13min
Eko33 & Alejandro Cartagena: Latent Ink and Pushing Machine and Self to Their Limits
GM if you love computer generative art! Eko33 is an artist involved in generative art since 1999, first experimenting with the Commodore SX-64 and evolving to global teaching, exhibitions, and collection releases. Fast forward to today as he prepares Latent Ink, his newest collection. Here we get a behind the scenes peek at the collection's history and how he seeks to push the boundaries of his mind, his computer, and his plotter. Alejandro Cartagena is back, and the artist, curator and co-founder of Fellowship Trust and Fellowship AI joins us for this deep dive.

Nov 15, 2024 • 54min
Trevor Paglen & Alejandro Cartagena: AI Art, Evolved Hallucinations, and Contextualization
Trevor Paglen is an artist with work across experimental geography, the global surveillance state, artificial intelligence systems, and more. He has a rich history of authorship and exhibitions. "What I want out of art is to develop ways of seeing. Things that help us see the historical moment we are living in." He is exploring our relationship to infrastructures and technologies, asking: how do the things we build change us? Alejandro Cartagena is an accomplished artist in his own right, and he is a curator and co-founder of Fellowship Trust and Fellowship AI. As Trevor and Alejandro work together on a collection entitled Evolved Hallucinations, we get them together for a conversation. It just might change how you see things.

Jul 25, 2024 • 1h 23min
Summer Wagner: Fever Dreams, Rituals, and the Rust Belt
Summer Wagner is a photographer and fine artist from the Rust Belt region of the Midwest. Her artwork has a mystical quality to it, blurring lines between fantasy and reality, conscious and sub-conscious. Since bringing her art to the blockchain in 2021, she has been featured across Art Basel, Christie's, and several galleries, releasing collections including her most extensive one yet - Midamerican Fever Dream. She calls herself a director of rituals, and this interview takes place prior to her conducting maybe her biggest one yet, a solo exhibition in Los Angeles, California.

May 23, 2024 • 1h 29min
Boldtron & Alejandro Cartagena: The Vault of Wonders, AI, and Nature

May 13, 2024 • 1h 1min
Harvey Rayner: Generative Art, Embracing The Unknown, and chatFUKR
Harvey Rayner is an English artist with multiple decades of digital and generative art experience. Within the past several years he has released series across Christie's, Sotheby's, Art Blocks, Bright Moments, and Verse. The interview is wide ranging, covering life philosophies, what about art stands the test of time, and creating art in a collaborative Web3 environment. The conversation takes place just prior to his chatFUKR release, a collection at the intersection of generative art, contemporary fine art, and pfp culture.

Feb 15, 2024 • 56min
Cath Simard: Authenticity, Composition, and Risk
Cath Simard is a composite landscape photographer and digital artist. She creates at the intersection of reality and imagination and is quoted as saying, "I don't capture what my eyes see, I capture what my mind imagines." She is patient with her art releases, yet prolific in impact, with accomplishments across Christie's, Sotheby's, AOTM, SuperRare and ExchangeArt, with maybe her most notable work being a one-of-one Creative Commons exploration entitled 'Free Hawaii'. In this interview, we talk about what drives Cath, how she sees art, and not only how she creates, but a few anecdotes from her wilderness exploration.

Feb 1, 2024 • 1h 3min
Niceaunties & Alejandro Cartagena: Auntie Culture, Structure, and Storytelling
Niceaunties is an artist inspired by the absurd and endearing behavior of Auntie culture, by Singapore, by food, and much, much more. She's telling a story, one about the growing Auntieverse, and one that is unfolding in chapters. Alejandro Cartagena is an artist and co-founder of Fellowship Trust, Fellowship AI, and Obscura. Via Fellowship, he's collaborating with niceaunties to bring the next chapter of Auntieverse, a milestone release, to life. This interview is packed with gems about creative inspiration, about process, about structure, and so much more.

Jan 18, 2024 • 1h 9min
Hafftka: Obstinance, Flow, and LFG
Hafftka is an artist with five decades of experience and works represented in a host of museums, including the Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York Museum of Modern Art, and Carnegie Museum of Art. It’s rare to find someone who matches such life experience with boundless energy and clear thought. Yet, that’s Hafftka. I left this conversation inspired. The deep-rooted desire to create, the obstinance needed to navigate art, and the conviction in digital medium, in crypto art, in crypto ownership are a few memorable topics.

Jan 11, 2024 • 1h 13min
Artie Handz & Frank Manzano: Gallery Exhibitions, AI Video and Nostalgic Anxiety
Today, we welcome Artie Handz and Frank Manzano. Artie is a longtime collector in the digital art space. He is the founder of Artie Galerie and he's a strong artist advocate. Frank brings a film and photography background into his career as an artist emphasizing AI-assisted video. Artie describes Frank's work as a funhouse mirror merger of a viewer's own memories and the unfamiliar. This interview takes place as the pair are preparing for Artie Galerie's inaugural verse exhibition. We delve not only into the exhibition itself but also how it came together, how it's structured and how it iterated into what is now ready for showtime.

Dec 21, 2023 • 1h 16min
Roope Rainisto: AI, Communicating Feelings, and Breaking Reality's Rules
Roope Rainisto is a designer, a creator, a photographer, a screenwriter, and an endless learner, bringing his diversity of life experience to the frontier of artificial intelligence. He is challenging the way we see the world and the way we feel it, through collections like Life In West America with BrainDrops and REWORLD with Fellowship.