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Empire features interviews with top crypto founders to get the real stories that aren’t shared elsewhere. Empire is your look behind the curtain of the crypto industry. We release two episodes per week: guest interviews on Monday and a weekly roundup on Friday.
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May 20, 2022 • 55min
Why I sold all my ETH | Richard Craib, Numerai
On today's episode of Empire, Jason and Mike are joined by Richard Craib, founder of Numerai, to discuss why Richard sold all his ETH.Richard is a prolific investor and has been part of the Ethereum ecosystem since the 2014 ICO. That’s why it was such a big deal when he announced he sold his ETH and that he no longer sees crypto as a good investment.Does crypto have a product outside of speculation? Is crypto’s growth just a result of the Fed? Is crypto more about regulatory arbitrage than the tech? These questions and more are explored in this fascinating conversation (debate!) where Richard holds nothing back.- -Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitzFollow Mike: https://twitter.com/MikeIppolito_Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepodFollow Richard: https://twitter.com/richardcraibSubscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2jSubscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw- -Referenced in the show:Richard's video announcing why he sold his ETHhttps://twitter.com/richardcraib/status/1523513981347848192?s=20&t=qwlN5rWxe5-KWyJOEr4B6Q--(00:00) Intro(01:52) Why Richard Sold All of His ETH(09:00) The Fed "Created" UST(12:14) Macro Trouble(15:53) A Market Neutral Strategy(19:38) Is Crypto's Only Product Speculation?(32:58) An Overreaction to a Flawed System(36:26) A Massive Misallocation of Capital(40:25) It's Mostly Just Regulatory Arbitrage(43:00) Why People Join The Crypto Industry(47:33) Is There A Real Use Case?(52:28) What Richard First Liked About Crypto

May 19, 2022 • 1h 5min
Lens Protocol, Web3's Social Platform | Stani Kulechov
On today's episode of Empire, Stani Kulechov - founder of Aave and Lens Protocol - joins Jason and Santiago to discuss the future of Web3 social.Stani explains how Lens Protocol will be the substrate Web3 social developers leverage to build and bootstrap their apps. Lens Protocol's modular architecture and open-data structure will enable mass experimentation, micro-communities and social composability: leading to differentiated and user-focused products.We then explore the benefits of a user-owned social graph, monetization strategies and how identity/social credit will be the next big unlock in Web3. Tune in to explore this new medium for social!- - Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitzFollow Santi: https://twitter.com/santiagoroelFollow Stani: https://twitter.com/StaniKulechovFollow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepodSubscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2jSubscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw- -BitMEX is back and better than ever. Sign up for BitmEX's new Spot Exchange for a chance to win a piece of $500,000 in BTC (new users).Learn more about them at https://www.bitmex.com/--Timestamps:(00:00) Introduction(01:03) Why Stani Was Kicked Off Twitter(04:45) Can Twitter Decentralize?(12:36) Social Media In Crypto(22:13) What Problem Is Lens Protocol Solving?(25:40) Building Moats In Social Media(28:14) Bitmex Ad(29:30) Building Moats In Social Media(34:36) Comparisons Between Web 2.0 & Web 3.0 Social Media(40:28) How Does Web 3.0 Social Media Monetize?(51:56) Negatives of Social Media On A Blockchain(53:40) Could Lens Be Bigger Than Aave?(59:23) The Lens Protocol Stack--Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

May 16, 2022 • 1h 11min
The AWS Of Crypto | Joe Lallouz
On today's episode of Empire, Joe Lallouz, Head of Coinbase Cloud, joins Jason and Santiago to discuss how Coinbase Cloud is building the AWS of crypto.Coinbase Cloud is building blockchain infrastructure and APIs that abstract the complexities of staking, data access, deployment and more. Joe explains the challenges of building in crypto, how Coinbase Cloud is taking on this challenge, and why developer tooling is critical for rapid innovation.We then discuss the importance of crypto's low switching costs, proof-of-stake systems, Lido's staking dominance, and Coinbase's approach to MEV. Blockchain infrastructure isn't the hot topic on Crypto Twitter, but it's the base layer of the entire ecosystem and will soon be a primary talking point. Don't miss this fantastic conversation to stay ahead of the blockchain infrastructure narrative!- -Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitzFollow Joe: https://twitter.com/JoeLallouzSubscribe To Our YouTube Channel: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2jSubscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw--ParaSwap:If you want to make a swap at the best price across the DeFi market, check out paraswap.io. ParaSwap’s state-of-the-art algorithm beats the market price across all major DEXs and brings you the most optimized swaps with the best prices and lowest slippage.--(00:00) Introduction(01:27) The AWS of Crypto(10:57) The Multichain Thesis(16:24) Bundling and Unbundling in Web3(21:56) The Magic of Low Switching Costs(28:11) Move Fast and Don't Break Things(33:48) Building The Secure Foundation(35:19) Is Coinbase a Bridge?(37:27) Paraswap Ad(38:35) Is Lido a Threat to ETH?(45:40) A Coinbase ETH Staking Derivative(48:16) How Coinbase Approaches MEV(51:43) MEV's Moral Hazard(55:19) Blockchain On Demand(59:38) Why ApeCoin Doesn't Need Its Own Chain(1:03:11) Every Company Will Be a Crypto Company(1:06:08) Segments Ripe For Innovation--Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

May 13, 2022 • 1h 16min
How To Survive A Bear Market | Olaf Carlson-Wee
On today's episode of Empire, Olaf Carlson-Wee, Coinbase's first employee & founder of Polychain, joins Jason and Santiago to discuss his views on the state of crypto.Olaf reflects on crypto's cycles, the reoccurring themes and how this relates to the UST meltdown and today's bear market. We then dive into Olaf's investment philosophy, exploring his thoughts on what assets will accrue value, the multichain future and the most exciting opportunities. You'll also hear Olaf's unique take on the "one reason" DAOs should exist.Don't miss this fantastic episode with one of the most interesting/successful OGs in crypto.- -Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitzFollow Mike: https://twitter.com/MikeIppolito_Follow Olaf: https://twitter.com/zxocwSubscribe To Our YouTube Channel: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2jSubscribe To Our Podcast: apple.co/3srZf7M or sptfy.com/8bQc--BitMEX is back and better than ever. Sign up for BitmEX's new Spot Exchange for a chance to win a piece of $500,000 in BTC (new users).Learn more about them at https://www.bitmex.com/--(00:00) Introduction(01:02) Market Chaos(05:37) Crypto's Cycles(17:33) Stablecoins and UST's Meltdown(24:33) The End of Algo Stables(30:06) Where's The Market Headed?(38:14) Bitmex AD(39:31) The Biggest Entrepreneurial Laboratory in History(43:23) It's Time for Buying Not Selling(44:34) Layer One Wars(48:38) The L2 Ecosystem(53:58) Where Will Value Accrue?(58:13) What's Overlooked In Crypto?(1:03:22) The One Thing DAO's Should Do(1:06:18) DeFi vs CeFi(1:07:39) Struggles of an Entrepreneur(1:11:33) The Industry Has to Prove Itself--Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

May 12, 2022 • 1h 13min
How Did UST Collapse? | Jordi Alexander & Mika Honkasalo
Jordi Alexander and Mika Honkasalo join Jason and Santiago on today’s episode of “Empire" to discuss the meltdown of UST, Terra's stablecoin. The match was lit Sunday with UST de-pegging from one dollar, and it's now become the single biggest wealth destruction event in crypto.Jordi and Mika explain what led to UST's demise, how this could have been prevented, and what's in store for the future of UST and Terra. Is this the end of decentralized stablecoins? Can the market recover? Tune in to find out.- -Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitzFollow Santi: https://twitter.com/santiagoroelFollow Jordi: https://twitter.com/gametheorizingSubscribe To Our YouTube Channel: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2jSubscribe To Our Podcast: apple.co/3srZf7M or sptfy.com/8bQc--(00:00) Introduction(01:07) What Happened to UST?(04:32) Utility vs Ponzi Mechanics(12:13) BTC Reserve(15:26) The Attack(20:32) How Did Institutions Play This?(24:31) Macro's Impact(26:52) Future of Decentralized Stablecoins(35:46) How Could UST Be Designed Differently?(43:21) The Multiplier Effect(44:44) The Soros Test(46:57) What's Next for UST?(56:16) The Arbitrage(59:12) The Systemic Effects(1:05:40) The Investment Outlook--Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

May 9, 2022 • 1h 19min
Every Project Will Have Its Own L2 | Michael Anderson & Vance Spencer
Vance Spencer and Michael Anderson, co-founders of Framework Ventures, join Jason on today’s episode of “Empire.” The founders have grown Framework’s assets under management from $14 million to over $1.4 billion in just three years.The co-founders share their thoughts on the layer-2 scaling thesis and why every project will eventually fork their own layer-2. Vance and Michael believe the shift to layer-2s is inevitable — it’s the endgame in maximizing token value.They then dive into staking and staking derivatives and why the Ethereum merge will bring about the birth of a new industry. This might be the most alpha ever dropped in one podcast — don’t miss it!- -Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitzFollow Vance: https://twitter.com/pythianismFollow Michael: https://twitter.com/im_mandersonSubscribe To Our YouTube Channel: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2jSubscribe To Our Podcast: apple.co/3srZf7M or sptfy.com/8bQc--ParaSwap:If you want to make a swap at the best price across the DeFi market, check out paraswap.io. ParaSwap’s state-of-the-art algorithm beats the market price across all major DEXs and brings you the most optimized swaps with the best prices, and lowest slippage.--Timestamps:(00:00) Intro(01:21) Yuga Labs debacle and scaling solutions(07:40) Application-specific L2s(09:07) Are L2 tokens parasitic to L1 tokens?(11:27)The multichain future(15:58) $10B hack prediction(17:57) Lido and Staking(23:27) Is The ETH Merge Priced In?(27:41) How To Outperform ETH(30:24) Fundamental Analysis(32:54) Institutional strategies and the ETH flippening(38:56) Paraswap Ad(40:05) Bearish AMMs, Bullish PFOF(45:14) Are we just recreating TradFi?(47:22) Revisiting the OG DeFi protocols(50:50) Tokenomics(55:14) Investing in GameFi(1:04:58) Enterprise blockchains(1:09:54) Super DAOs(1:11:54) 2022 Outlook--Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

May 6, 2022 • 57min
Retail's Last Hope in the Bear | Weekly Roundup
In this episode of Empire's Weekly Roundup, Jason and Santiago start with the most relevant topic: how to survive a bear market. Santiago explains how he embraces the bear and shares advice for builders and investors - including his current investment strategy.Jason and Santi then explore the NFT market, Yuga land sale and today's scaling challenges. The conversation is capped off with thoughts on Lido's dominance, Anchor's rate drop and DAO legal battles. Tune in to hear this week's top stories all in one episode!--BitMEX is back and better than ever. Sign up for BitmEX's new Spot Exchange for a chance to win a piece of $500,000 in BTC (new users).Learn more about them at https://www.bitmex.com/--Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitzFollow Santi: https://twitter.com/santiagoroelSubscribe To Our YouTube Channel: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2jSubscribe To Our Podcast: apple.co/3srZf7M or sptfy.com/8bQc- -Referenced in the show:The WSJ "NFT Sales Are Flattening" articlehttps://www.wsj.com/articles/nft-sales-are-flatlining-11651552616Dune Analytics Datahttps://dune.com/sealaunch/NFThttps://dune.com/rchen8/openseaNansen NFT Tweet/Statshttps://twitter.com/themlpx/status/1521845362830430208Ben Strack Article On bZx Litigationhttps://blockworks.co/hacked-dao-faces-lawsuit-as-users-try-to-recoup-stolen-funds/Fairfax Pension Announcementhttps://cointelegraph.com/news/virginian-county-wants-to-put-pension-funds-into-defi-yield-farming--(00:00) Introduction(02:43) Surviving The Bear(08:36) Are Private Deals Too Hot?(12:18) Santi's Current Investment(18:00) What's Going On With NFTs(28:23) Bitmex Ad(29:31) Yuga Land Sale & Scaling Challenges(37:26) Does Provenance Determine an NFTs Value?(39:01) ApeCoin's Staking Proposal(41:51) Lido and the Pull of Centralization(47:01) Anchor Hits ATH TVL Despite Rate Drop(48:28) DAOs Are Being Sued(52:13) Pension Fund Doubles Down on Crypto(53:36) Permissionless Is Almost Here!--Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

May 2, 2022 • 1h 2min
Crypto’s Next Chapter | Jeff Dorman
On today's episode of Empire, Jason and Santiago are joined by Jeff Dorman, CIO of Arca. Jeff is a prominent crypto investor known for his fundamental analysis, contrarian bets and ability to simplify crypto's arcane topics.In this episode, Jeff explains crypto's response to macro, why fundamentals matter, equity tokenization, crypto's most exciting developments and more. Don't miss Jeff's insights on where crypto is headed next!Resources:BTC/NASDAQ correlation: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-11/bitcoin-s-correlation-with-big-tech-increases-to-record-chartFollow Jeff on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jdorman81Follow Empire on Twitter: https://twitter.com/theempirepod--ParaSwap:If you want to make a swap at the best price across the DeFi market, check out paraswap.io. ParaSwap’s state-of-the-art algorithm beats the market price across all major DEXs and brings you the most optimized swaps with the best prices, and lowest slippage.--Timestamps(00:00) Introduction(01:27) The Real Reason Crypto Is Correlated To The NASDAQ(04:27) Is The Fed In Control of Inflation?(09:02) Crypto's Strength During Macro Turbulence(13:04) The Ownership Narrative(15:25) Everything Is Based On Trust(18:12) Ownership and Aligned Incentives(25:27) Liquidity Incentives(30:28) Governance(33:57) Paraswap Ad(35:06) CeFi Merging With DeFi(39:32) What Is Jeff Excited About?(44:09) DeFi Is Boring But Works(47:42) Tokens That Accrue Value(49:50) Business Development in Crypto(54:38) How To Value Layer One Blockchains--Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

Apr 29, 2022 • 60min
Optimism's Airdrop Is The Future of Governance | Weekly Roundup
In today's episode of Empire's Roundup, the long-awaited return of Santi and Jason discussing the latest in crypto, DeFi, and more has finally landed. They refresh some predictions around ETH for 2022 and discuss the Optimism airdrop, the BAYC Instagram hack, Osmosis's canonical bridge vote, and announcements from funds and initiatives alike. You won't want to miss this!--BitMEX is back and better than ever. Sign up for BitmEX's new Spot Exchange for a chance to win a piece of $500,000 in BTC (new users).Learn more about them at https://www.bitmex.com/--Follow me and Santiago on Twitter, @JasonYanowitz and @santiagoroel; let us know what you thought of the show!Subscribe to the podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4UTePv1CR3APdKOiosR3Iq?si=41bc452345b649f9Subscribe to the podcast on Apple: https://apple.co/3srZf7M--Timestamps:(00:00)・Introduction(01:50)・The Permissionless conference(03:05)・Optimism's airdrop & implications(20:06)・Predictions for an Ethereum and P2E Summer(23:56)・BAYC Instagram hack(29:08)・Is it the NFT top?(35:55)・Be a crypto user(38:35)・A proliferation of algo stablecoins(44:30)・BTC as the global reserve layer of the world(47:02)・Osmosis votes in Axelar as the canonical bridge(49:05)・Fidelity's 401K BTC announcement(50:52)・Dragonfly launches a $650M crypto fund(52:18)・Current favorite shows and podcasts

Apr 28, 2022 • 1h 3min
How Illuvium Will Outplay P2E | Kieran Warwick
On today's episode of Empire, Santiago Roel Santos is joined by Kieran Warwick, co-founder of Illuvium. Illuvium is an open-world, collector and auto battler game with high-res graphics and dynamic gameplay mechanics. Illuvium focuses on bringing both entertainment and earning into the core gameplay. It might just be the Pokémon of Web3.We discuss the inspiration behind Illuvium, how to build a AAA studio-level game, how NFTs empower gameplay and the key to Illuvium's success.Links:Kieran's Twitter: https://twitter.com/KieranWarwickIlluvium: https://www.illuvium.io/Illuvium Gameplay Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzT88eN4gts&t=120s&ab_channel=IlluviumLive Gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KeNzTaJhmQ&ab_channel=Illuvium--Follow me and Santiago on Twitter, @JasonYanowitz and @santiagoroel; let us know what you thought of the show!Subscribe to the podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4UTePv1CR3APdKOiosR3Iq?si=41bc452345b649f9Subscribe to the podcast on Apple: https://apple.co/3srZf7M--Timestamps(00:00) Introduction(01:10) Creating A Passionate Community (04:43) Launching A Token(10:22) Inspiration Behind Illuvium(15:10) What's It Mean To Build a Good Game?(19:01) Utilizing Capital Formation(23:51) Scaling Illuvium (25:42)Playing For The Entertainment Value (30:49) How Do You Think About Competition?(33:12) Will Traditional Gaming Studios Use Crypto?(34:54) Building On Top Of Illuvium(36:45) Pokemon, NFTs, and Interoperability(44:35) Scarcity vs Utility(52:35) ETH Lizaards (55:49) Investing In Illuvium (1:01:50) How To Get Involved--Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.