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What Hump? Thirty Years of Cybersecurity and the Fine Art of Pretending It’s Not a Human ProblemA new transmission from Musing On Society and Technology Newsletter, by Marco CiappelliJune 6, 2025A Post-Infosecurity Europe Reflection on the Strange but Predictable Ways We’ve Spent Thirty Years Pretending Cybersecurity Isn’t About People.⸻ Once there was a movie titled “Young Frankenstein” (1974) — a black-and-white comedy directed by Mel Brooks, written with Gene Wilder, and starring Wilder and Marty Feldman, who delivers the iconic “What hump?” line.Let me describe the scene:[Train station, late at night. Thunder rumbles. Dr. Frederick Frankenstein steps off the train, greeted by a hunched figure holding a lantern — Igor.]Igor: Dr. Frankenstein?Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: It’s Franken-steen.Igor: Oh. Well, they told me it was Frankenstein.Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: I’m not a Frankenstein. I’m a Franken-steen.Igor (cheerfully): All right.Dr. Frederick Frankenstein (noticing Igor’s eyes): You must be Igor.Igor: No, it’s pronounced Eye-gor.Dr. Frederick Frankenstein (confused): But they told me it was Igor.Igor: Well, they were wrong then, weren’t they?[They begin walking toward the carriage.]Dr. Frederick Frankenstein (noticing Igor’s severe hunchback): You know… I’m a rather brilliant surgeon. Perhaps I could help you with that hump.Igor (looks puzzled, deadpan): What hump?[Cut to them boarding the carriage, Igor climbing on the outside like a spider, grinning wildly.]It’s a joke, of course. One of the best. A perfectly delivered absurdity that only Mel Brooks and Marty Feldman could pull off. But like all great comedy, it tells a deeper truth.Last night, standing in front of the Tower of London, recording one of our On Location recaps with Sean Martin, that scene came rushing back. We joked about invisible humps and cybersecurity. And the moment passed. Or so I thought.Because hours later — in bed, hotel window cracked open to the London night — I was still hearing it: “What hump?”And that’s when it hit me: this isn’t just a comedy bit. It’s a diagnosis. Here we are at Infosecurity Europe, celebrating its 30th anniversary. Three decades of cybersecurity: a field born of optimism and fear, grown in complexity and contradiction.We’ve built incredible tools. We’ve formed global communities of defenders. We’ve turned “hacker” from rebel to professional job title — with a 401(k), branded hoodies, and a sponsorship deal. But we’ve also built an industry that — much like poor Igor — refuses to admit something’s wrong.The hump is right there. You can see it. Everyone can see it. And yet… we smile and say: “What hump?”We say cybersecurity is a priority. We put it in slide decks. We hold awareness months. We write policies thick enough to be used as doorstops. But then we underfund training. We silo the security team. We click links in emails that say whatever will make us think it’s important — just like those pieces of snail mail stamped URGENT that we somehow believe, even though it turns out to be an offer for a new credit card we didn’t ask for and don’t want. Except this time, the payload isn’t junk mail — it’s a clown on a spring exploding out of a fun box.Igor The hump moves, shifts, sometimes disappears from view — but it never actually goes away. And if you ask about it? Well… they were wrong then, weren’t they?That's because it’s not a technology problem. This is the part that still seems hard to swallow for some: Cybersecurity is not a technology problem. It never was.Yes, we need technology. But technology has never been the weak link.The weak link is the same as it was in 1995: us. The same it was before the internet and before computers: Humans.With our habits, assumptions, incentives, egos, and blind spots. We are the walking, clicking, swiping hump in the system. We’ve had encryption for decades. We’ve known about phishing since the days of AOL. Zero Trust was already discussed in 2004 — it just didn’t have a cool name yet.So why do we still get breached? Why does a ransomware gang with poor grammar and a Telegram channel take down entire hospitals?Because culture doesn’t change with patches. Because compliance is not belief. Because we keep treating behavior as a footnote, instead of the core.The Problem We Refuse to See at the heart of this mess is a very human phenomenon:vIf we can’t see it, we pretend it doesn’t exist.We can quantify risk, but we rarely internalize it. We trust our tech stack but don’t trust our users. We fund detection but ignore education.And not just at work — we ignore it from the start. We still teach children how to cross the street, but not how to navigate a phishing attempt or recognize algorithmic manipulation. We give them connected devices before we teach them what being connected means. In this Hybrid Analog Digital Society, we need to treat cybersecurity not as an optional adult concern, but as a foundational part of growing up. Because by the time someone gets to the workforce, the behavior has already been set.And worst of all, we operate under the illusion that awareness equals transformation.Let’s be real: Awareness is cheap. Change is expensive. It costs time, leadership, discomfort. It requires honesty. It means admitting we are all Igor, in some way. And that’s the hardest part. Because no one likes to admit they’ve got a hump — especially when it’s been there so long, it feels like part of the uniform.We have been looking the other way for over thirty years. I don’t want to downplay the progress. We’ve come a long way, but that only makes the stubbornness more baffling.We’ve seen attacks evolve from digital graffiti to full-scale extortion. We’ve watched cybercrime move from subculture to multi-billion-dollar global enterprise. And yet, our default strategy is still: “Let’s build a bigger wall, buy a shinier tool, and hope marketing doesn’t fall for that PDF again.”We know what works: Psychological safety in reporting. Continuous learning. Leadership that models security values. Systems designed for humans, not just admins.But those are hard. They’re invisible on the balance sheet. They don’t come with dashboards or demos. So instead… We grin. We adjust our gait. And we whisper, politely:“What hump?”So what Happens now? If you’re still reading this, you’re probably one of the people who does see it. You see the hump. You’ve tried to point it out. Maybe you’ve been told you’re imagining things. Maybe you’ve been told it’s “not a priority this quarter.” And maybe now you’re tired. I get it.But here’s the thing: Nothing truly changes until we name the hump.Call it bias.Call it culture.Call it education.Call it the human condition.But don’t pretend it’s not there. Not anymore. Because every time we say “What hump?” — we’re giving up a little more of the future. A future that depends not just on clever code and cleverer machines, but on something far more fragile:Belief. Behavior. And the choice to finally stop pretending.We joked in front of a thousand-year-old fortress. Because sometimes jokes tell the truth better than keynote stages do. And maybe the real lesson isn’t about cybersecurity at all.Maybe it’s just this: If we want to survive what’s coming next, we have to see what’s already here.- The End➤ Infosecurity Europe: https://www.itspmagazine.com/infosecurity-europe-2025-infosec-london-cybersecurity-event-coverageAnd ... we're not done yet ... stay tuned and follow Sean and Marco as they will be On Location at the following conferences over the next few months:➤ Black Hat USA in Las Vegas in August: https://www.itspmagazine.com/black-hat-usa-2025-hacker-summer-camp-2025-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-las-vegasFOLLOW ALL OF OUR ON LOCATION CONFERENCE COVERAGEhttps://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-and-cybersecurity-conference-coverageShare this newsletter and invite anyone you think would enjoy it!As always, let's keep thinking!— Marco [https://www.marcociappelli.com]📬 Enjoyed this transmission? Follow the newsletter here:https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7079849705156870144/New stories always incoming.🌀 Let’s keep exploring what it means to be human in this Hybrid Analog Digital Society.End of transmission.Share this newsletter and invite anyone you think would enjoy it!As always, let's keep thinking!— Marco [https://www.marcociappelli.com]_________________________________________________This story represents the results of an interactive collaboration between Human Cognition and Artificial Intelligence.Marco Ciappelli | Co-Founder, Creative Director & CMO ITSPmagazine  | Dr. in Political Science / Sociology of Communication l Branding | Content Marketing | Writer | Storyteller | My Podcasts: Redefining Society & Technology / Audio Signals / + | MarcoCiappelli.comTAPE3 is the Artificial Intelligence behind ITSPmagazine—created to be a personal assistant, writing and design collaborator, research companion, brainstorming partner… and, apparently, something new every single day.Enjoy, think, share with others, and subscribe to the "Musing On Society & Technology" newsletter on LinkedIn. 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From Cassette Tapes and Phrasebooks to AI Real-Time Translations — Machines Can Now Speak for Us, But We’re Losing the Art of Understanding Each Other May 21, 2025A new transmission from Musing On Society and Technology Newsletter, by Marco CiappelliThere’s this thing I’ve dreamed about since I was a kid.No, it wasn’t flying cars. Or robot butlers (although I wouldn’t mind one to fold the laundry). It was this: having a real conversation with someone — anyone — in their own language, and actually understanding each other.And now… here we are.Reference: Google brings live translation to Meet, starting with Spanish. https://www.engadget.com/apps/google-brings-live-translation-to-meet-starting-with-spanish-174549788.htmlGoogle just rolled out live AI-powered translation in Google Meet, starting with Spanish. I watched the demo video, and for a moment, I felt like I was 16 again, staring at the future with wide eyes and messy hair.It worked. It was seamless. Flawless. Magical.And then — drumroll, please — it sucked!Like… really, existentially, beautifully sucked.Let me explain.I’m a proud member of Gen X. I grew up with cassette tapes and Walkmans, boomboxes and mixtapes, floppy disks and Commodore 64s, reel-to-reel players and VHS decks, rotary phones and answering machines. I felt language — through static, rewinds, and hiss.Yes, I had to wait FOREVER to hit Play and Record, at the exact right moment, tape songs off the radio onto a Maxell, label it by hand, and rewind it with a pencil when the player chewed it up.I memorized long-distance dialing codes. I waited weeks for a letter to arrive from a pen pal abroad, reading every word like it was a treasure map.That wasn’t just communication. That was connection.Then came the shift.I didn’t miss the digital train — I jumped on early, with curiosity in one hand and a dial-up modem in the other.Early internet. Mac OS. My first email address felt like a passport to a new dimension. I spent hours navigating the World Wide Web like a digital backpacker — discovering strange forums, pixelated cities, and text-based adventures in a binary world that felt limitless.I said goodbye to analog tools, but never to analog thinking.So what is the connection with learning languages?Well, here’s the thing: exploring the internet felt a lot like learning a new language. You weren’t just reading text — you were decoding a culture. You learned how people joked. How they argued. How they shared, paused, or replied with silence. You picked up on the tone behind a blinking cursor, or the vibe of a forum thread.Similarly, when you learn a language, you’re not just learning words — you’re decoding an entire world. It’s not about the words themselves — it’s about the world they build. You’re learning gestures. Food. Humor. Social cues. Sarcasm. The way someone raises an eyebrow, or says “sure” when they mean “no.”You’re learning a culture’s operating system, not just its interface. AI translation skips that. It gets you the data, but not the depth. It’s like getting the punchline without ever hearing the setup.And yes, I use AI to clean up my writing. To bounce translations between English and Italian when I’m juggling stories. But I still read both versions. I still feel both versions. I’m picky — I fight with my AI counterpart to get it right. To make it feel the way I feel it. To make you feel it, too. Even now.I still think in analog, even when I’m living in digital.So when I watched that Google video, I realized:We’re not just gaining a tool. We’re at risk of losing something deeply human — the messy, awkward, beautiful process of actually trying to understand someone who moves through the world in a different language — one that can’t be auto-translated.Because sometimes it’s better to speak broken English with a Japanese friend and a Danish colleague — laughing through cultural confusion — than to have a perfectly translated conversation where nothing truly connects.This isn’t just about language. It’s about every tool we create that promises to “translate” life. Every app, every platform, every shortcut that promises understanding without effort.It’s not the digital that scares me. I use it. I live in it. I am it, in many ways. It’s the illusion of completion that scares me.The moment we think the transformation is done — the moment we say “we don’t need to learn that anymore” — that’s the moment we stop being human.We don’t live in 0s and 1s. We live in the in-between. The gray. The glitch. The hybrid.So yeah, cheers to AI-powered translation, but maybe keep your Walkman nearby, your phrasebook in your bag — and your curiosity even closer.Go explore the world. Learn a few words in a new language. Mispronounce them. Get them wrong. Laugh about it. People will appreciate your effort far more than your fancy iPhone.Alla prossima,— Marco 📬 Enjoyed this transmission? Follow the newsletter here:https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7079849705156870144/New stories always incoming.🌀 Let’s keep exploring what it means to be human in this Hybrid Analog Digital Society.End of transmission. Share this newsletter and invite anyone you think would enjoy it!As always, let's keep thinking!— Marco [https://www.marcociappelli.com]_________________________________________________This story represents the results of an interactive collaboration between Human Cognition and Artificial Intelligence.Marco Ciappelli | Co-Founder, Creative Director & CMO ITSPmagazine  | Dr. in Political Science / Sociology of Communication l Branding | Content Marketing | Writer | Storyteller | My Podcasts: Redefining Society & Technology / Audio Signals / + | MarcoCiappelli.comTAPE3 is the Artificial Intelligence behind ITSPmagazine—created to be a personal assistant, writing and design collaborator, research companion, brainstorming partner… and, apparently, something new every single day.Enjoy, think, share with others, and subscribe to the "Musing On Society & Technology" newsletter on LinkedIn. 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Guest:Guest: Jeremy LasmanWebsite: https://www.jeremylasman.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremylasman_____________________________Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society & Technology PodcastVisit Marco's website 👉 https://www.marcociappelli.com _____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsBlackCloak 👉 https://itspm.ag/itspbcweb_____________________________Show Notes Blog:In this thought-provoking episode of Redefining Society & Technology, I sit down with Jeremy Lasman to question the most overlooked gadget in the human-tech equation: our own mind. We ask — if we keep updating our devices, why don’t we update the inner operating system that powers our thoughts, creativity, and connection to the world?Jeremy, a former SpaceX technologist turned philosopher-inventor, shares his journey from corporate IT to what he calls his “soul’s work”: challenging the legacy software running our lives — fear-based, outdated models of thinking — with something he calls “Imagination Technology.” It’s not metaphorical. It’s a real framework. And yes, it sounds wild — but it also makes a lot of sense.We touch on everything from open-source thinking to quantum consciousness, from the speed of technological evolution to the bottlenecks of our cultural structures like education and societal expectations. At the center is a call to action: we need to stop treating passion as a luxury and instead recognize it as the fuel for personal and collective evolution.Together, we reflect on how society tends to silo disciplines, discourage curiosity, and cling to binary thinking in a world that demands fluidity. Jeremy argues that redefining society begins with redefining the self — tearing down internal walls, embracing timelessness, and running life not on fear, but on imagination.Is this transhumanism? Is it spiritual philosophy dressed up in tech language? Maybe. But it’s also deeply human — and urgent. Because in a world where AI and tech evolve by the day, we can’t afford to be running on emotional floppy disks.So here’s the challenge: what if the next big upgrade isn’t an app, a device, or even a new piece of hardware — but a reprogramming of how we see ourselves?Enjoy. Reflect. Share with your fellow humans.And if you haven’t already, subscribe to Musing On Society & Technology on LinkedIn — new transmissions are always incoming.You’re listening to this through the Redefining Society & Technology podcast, so while you’re here, make sure to follow the show — and join us as we continue exploring life in this Hybrid Analog Digital Society.End of transmission.____________________________Listen to more Redefining Society & Technology stories and subscribe to the podcast:👉 https://redefiningsocietyandtechnologypodcast.comWatch the webcast version on-demand on YouTube:👉 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllTUoWMGGQHlGVZA575VtGr9Are you interested Promotional Brand Stories for your Company and Sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/advertise-on-itspmagazine-podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Future Is a Place We Visit, But Never StayMay 9, 2025A Post-RSAC 2025 Reflection on the Kinda Funny and Pretty Weird Ways Society, Technology, and Cybersecurity Intersect, Interact, and Often Simply Ignore Each Other.By Marco Ciappelli | Musing on Society and TechnologyHere we are — once again, back from RSAC. Back from the future. Or at least the version of the future that fits inside a conference badge, a branded tote bag, and a hotel bill that makes you wonder if your wallet just got hacked.San Francisco is still buzzing with innovation — or at least that’s what the hundreds of self-driving cars swarming the city would have you believe. It’s hard to feel like you’re floating into a Jetsons-style future when your shuttle ride is bouncing through potholes that feel more 1984 than 2049.I have to admit, there’s something oddly poetic about hosting a massive cybersecurity event in a city where most attendees would probably rather not be — and yet, here we are. Not for the scenery. Not for the affordability. But because, somehow, for a few intense days, this becomes the place where the future lives.And yes, it sometimes looks like a carnival. There are goats. There are puppies. There are LED-lit booths that could double as rave stages. Is this how cybersecurity sells the feeling of safety now? Warm fuzzies and swag you’ll never use? I’m not sure.But again: here we are.There’s a certain beauty in it. Even the ridiculous bits. Especially the ridiculous bits.Personally, I’m grateful for my press badge — it’s not just a backstage pass; it’s a magical talisman that wards off the pitch-slingers. The power of not having a budget is strong with this one.But let’s set aside the Frankensteins in the expo hall for a moment.Because underneath the spectacle — behind the snacks, the popcorns, the scanners and the sales demos — there is something deeply valuable happening. Something that matters to me. Something that has kept me coming back, year after year, not for the products but for the people. Not for the tech, but for the stories.What RSAC Conference gives us — what all good conferences give us — is a window. A quick glimpse through the curtain at what might be.And sometimes, if you’re lucky and paying attention, that glimpse stays with you long after the lights go down.We have quantum startups talking about cryptographic agility while schools are still banning phones. We have generative AI writing software — code that writes code — while lawmakers print bills that read like they were faxed in from 1992. We have cybersecurity vendors pitching zero trust to rooms full of people still clinging to the fantasy of perimeter defense — not just in networks, but in their thinking.We’re trying to build the future on top of a mindset that refuses to update.That’s the real threat. Not AI and quantum. Not ransomware. Not the next zero-day.It’s the human operating system. It hasn’t been patched in a while.And so I ask myself — what are these conferences for, really?Because yes, of course, they matter.Of course I believe in them — otherwise I wouldn’t be there, recording stories, chasing conversations, sharing a couch and a mic with whoever is bold enough to speak not just about how we fix things, but why we should care at all.But I’m also starting to believe that unless we do something more — unless we act on what we learn, build on what we imagine, challenge what we assume — these gatherings will become time capsules. Beautiful, well-produced, highly caffeinated, blinking, noisy time capsules.We don’t need more predictions. We need more decisions.One of the most compelling conversations I had wasn’t about tech at all. It was about behavior. Human behavior.Dr. Jason Nurse reminded us that most people are not just confused by cybersecurity — they’re afraid of it.They’re tired.They’re overwhelmed.And in their confusion, they become unpredictable. Vulnerable.Not because they don’t care — but because we haven’t built a system that makes it easy to care.That’s a design flaw.Elsewhere, I heard the term “AI security debt.” That one stayed with me.Because it’s not just technical debt anymore. It’s existential.We are creating systems that evolve faster than our ability to understand them — and we’re doing it with the same blind trust we used to install browser toolbars in the ‘90s.“Sure, it seems useful. Click accept.”We’ve never needed collective wisdom more than we do right now.And yet, most of what we build is designed for speed, not wisdom.So what do we do?We pause. We reflect. We resist the urge to just “move on” to the next conference, the next buzzword, the next promised fix.Because the real value of RSAC isn’t in the badge or the swag or the keynotes.It’s in the aftershock.It’s in what we carry forward, what we refuse to forget, what we dare to question even when the conference is over, the blinking booths vanish, the future packs up early, and the lanyards go into the drawer of forgotten epiphanies — right next to the stress balls, the branded socks and the beautiful prize that you didn't win.We’ll be in Barcelona soon. Then London. Then Vegas.We’ll gather again. We’ll talk again. But maybe — just maybe — we can start to shift the story.From visiting the future… To staying a while.Let’s build something we don’t want to walk away from. And now, ladies and gentlemen… the show is over.The lights dim, the music fades, and the future exits stage left...Until we meet again.—Marco ResourcesRead first newsletter about RSAC 2025 I wrote last week " Securing Our Future Without Leaving Half Our Minds in the Past" https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/securing-our-future-without-leaving-half-minds-past-marco-ciappelli-cry1c/🎙️ Explore Our Full RSAC 2025 Coverage on ITSPmagazine We would like to thank our full event coverage sponsors and look forward to our On Location conversationsMinimize imageEdit imageDelete imageThreatLocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974Akamai Technologies: https://itspm.ag/akamailbwcBLACKCLOAK: https://itspm.ag/itspbcwebSandboxAQ: https://itspm.ag/sandboxaq-j2enArcher Integrated Risk Management: https://itspm.ag/rsaarchwebISACA: https://itspm.ag/isaca-96808Object First: https://itspm.ag/object-first-2gjlEdera: https://itspm.ag/edera-434868 ... and thank you to our event briefing partners, with whom we will also record On Location briefingsInfinidat: https://itspm.ag/infini3o5dCoalfire: https://itspm.ag/coalfire-yj4wManageEngine: https://itspm.ag/manageen-631623Detecteam: https://itspm.ag/detecteam-21686Stellar Cyber: https://itspm.ag/stellar-cyber--inc--357947Qualys: https://itspm.ag/qualys-908446Corelight: https://itspm.ag/coreligh-954270Anomali: https://itspm.ag/anomali-bdz393 And ... we're not done yet ... stay tuned and follow Sean and Marco as they will be On Location at the following conferences over the next few months:➤ Infosecurity Europe in London in June: https://www.itspmagazine.com/infosecurity-europe-2025-infosec-london-cybersecurity-event-coverage➤ OWASP® Foundation AppSec Global in Barcelona in May: https://www.itspmagazine.com/owasp-global-appsec-barcelona-2025-application-security-event-coverage-in-catalunya-spain➤ Black Hat USA in Las Vegas in August: https://www.itspmagazine.com/black-hat-usa-2025-hacker-summer-camp-2025-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-las-vegas FOLLOW ALL OF OUR ON LOCATION CONFERENCE COVERAGEhttps://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-and-cybersecurity-conference-coverage Share this newsletter and invite anyone you think would enjoy it!As always, let's keep thinking!— Marco [https://www.marcociappelli.com]_________________________________________________This story represents the results of an interactive collaboration between Human Cognition and Artificial Intelligence.Marco Ciappelli | Co-Founder, Creative Director & CMO ITSPmagazine  | Dr. in Political Science / Sociology of Communication l Branding | Content Marketing | Storyteller | My Podcasts: Redefining Society & Technology / Audio Signals / + | MarcoCiappelli.comTAPE3 is the Artificial Intelligence behind ITSPmagazine—created to be a personal assistant, writing and design collaborator, research companion, brainstorming partner… and, apparently, something new every single day.Enjoy, think, share with others, and subscribe to the "Musing On Society & Technology" newsletter on LinkedIn. 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During RSAC Conference 2025, Andrew Carney, Program Manager at DARPA, and (remotely via video) Dr. Kathleen Fisher, Professor at Tufts University and Program Manager for the AI Cyber Challenge (AIxCC), guide attendees through an immersive experience called Northbridge—a fictional city designed to showcase the critical role of AI in securing infrastructure through the DARPA-led AI Cyber Challenge.Inside Northbridge: The Stakes Are RealNorthbridge simulates the future of cybersecurity, blending AI, infrastructure, and human collaboration. It’s not just a walkthrough — it’s a call to action. Through simulated attacks on water systems, healthcare networks, and cyber operations, visitors witness firsthand the tangible impacts of vulnerabilities in critical systems. Dr. Fisher emphasizes that the AI Cyber Challenge isn’t theoretical: the vulnerabilities competitors find and fix directly apply to real open-source software relied on by society today.The AI Cyber Challenge: Pairing Generative AI with Cyber ReasoningThe AI Cyber Challenge (AIxCC) invites teams from universities, small businesses, and consortiums to create cyber reasoning systems capable of autonomously identifying and fixing vulnerabilities. Leveraging leading foundation models from Anthropic, Google, Microsoft, and OpenAI, the teams operate with tight constraints—working with limited time, compute, and LLM credits—to uncover and patch vulnerabilities at scale. Remarkably, during semifinals, teams found and fixed nearly half of the synthetic vulnerabilities, and even discovered a real-world zero-day in SQLite.Building Toward DEFCON Finals and BeyondThe journey doesn’t end at RSA. As the teams prepare for the AIxCC finals at DEFCON 2025, DARPA is increasing the complexity of the challenge—and the available resources. Beyond the competition, a core goal is public benefit: all cyber reasoning systems developed through AIxCC will be open-sourced under permissive licenses, encouraging widespread adoption across industries and government sectors.From Competition to CollaborationCarney and Fisher stress that the ultimate victory isn’t in individual wins, but in strengthening cybersecurity collectively. Whether securing hospitals, water plants, or financial institutions, the future demands cooperation across public and private sectors.The Northbridge experience offers a powerful reminder: resilience in cybersecurity is built not through fear, but through innovation, collaboration, and a relentless drive to secure the systems we all depend on.___________Guest: Andrew Carney, AI Cyber Challenge Program Manager, Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) | https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-carney-945458a6/Hosts:Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine | Website: https://www.seanmartin.comMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine | Website: https://www.marcociappelli.com______________________Episode SponsorsThreatLocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974Akamai: https://itspm.ag/akamailbwcBlackCloak: https://itspm.ag/itspbcwebSandboxAQ: https://itspm.ag/sandboxaq-j2enArcher: https://itspm.ag/rsaarchwebDropzone AI: https://itspm.ag/dropzoneai-641ISACA: https://itspm.ag/isaca-96808ObjectFirst: https://itspm.ag/object-first-2gjlEdera: https://itspm.ag/edera-434868___________ResourcesThe DARPA AIxCC Experience at RSAC 2025 Innovation Sandbox: https://www.rsaconference.com/usa/programs/sandbox/darpaLearn more and catch more stories from RSAC Conference 2025 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/rsac25___________KEYWORDSandrew carney, kathleen fisher, marco ciappelli, sean martin, darpa, aixcc, cybersecurity, rsac 2025, defcon, ai cybersecurity, event coverage, on location, conference______________________Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-and-cybersecurity-conference-coverageWant to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage? Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrfWant Sean and Marco to be part of your event or conference? Let Us Know 👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/contact-us Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Guest: Dr. Bruce Y LeeSenior Contributor @Forbes | Professor | CEO | Writer/Journalist | Entrepreneur | Digital & Computational Health | #AI | bruceylee.substack.com | bruceylee.com Bruce Y. Lee, MD, MBA is a writer, journalist, systems modeler, AI, computational and digital health expert, professor, physician, entrepreneur, and avocado-eater, not always in that order.Executive Director of PHICOR (Public Health Informatics, Computational, and Operations Research) [@PHICORteam]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/bruce-y-lee-68a6834/Website | https://www.bruceylee.com/_____________________________Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society PodcastVisit Marco's website 👉 https://www.marcociappelli.com _____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsBlackCloak 👉 https://itspm.ag/itspbcweb_____________________________We’re back at the bar. Bruce is here, the garlic took the day off (too young to drink?), and we’re talking about something that’s not science fiction anymore — the idea that your digital self could outlive you.Yeah. Living forever. Or at least… being replicated forever.It starts with a hologram of Princess Leia and ends with people in Japan marrying bots. And in between? There’s a messy, fascinating, unsettling space filled with AI companions, algorithmic flattery, uncanny valley doppelgängers, and the very real possibility that we’re confusing memory with simulation.Bruce brings up Star Trek — of course he does — where Captain Kirk debates a machine version of a long-dead friend who insists he’s still the real deal. Spoiler: Kirk says no. And I get it. But what if that machine knows everything I’ve ever posted, recorded, written, liked, said, or searched? What if it feels like me?Would you want to talk to it?As always, our conversation doesn’t offer a final answer — we’re not here to draw lines in the philosophical sand. We’re here to hold up a mirror and ask: is that reflection still you if it’s built out of pixels and training data?This episode is personal and playful, but also incredibly relevant. Because we’re already building legacies we don’t fully understand. Every photo, every search, every rant, every laugh — it’s all on the record now. Our historical memory is no longer dusty boxes in the attic; it’s a neural net waiting to be queried.So yeah, one day, you might be sipping your espresso while a synthetic version of your late uncle offers you advice, cracks a joke, and asks if you still listen to that one podcast.Just remember what Captain Kirk said: that might look like him, sound like him, even think like him — but it’s not really him.Still… it’s a hell of a conversation.So join Bruce and me. Pull up a virtual stool. It’s Season 2, Episode 3. And no, that laugh you just heard isn’t AI-generated — not yet.⸻Keywords:digital immortality, AI relationships, uncanny valley, chatbot therapy, synthetic identity, Star Trek, brain uploading, holograms, emotional AI, algorithmic intimacy, digital clone, memory simulation, techno-sociology, posthumanism, virtual consciousness, AI ethics, social engineering, digital legacy, artificial friends, future of identitySee You Next TimeYou'll find links to connect with Bruce and explore his incredible contributions in journalism and medicine. I promise you; he's just as insightful and entertaining as he seems in the series. So, see you next time – same bar, same garlic, new topics!_____________________________Resources/ReferencesThe Singularity Is Nearer: When We Merge with AIby Ray Kurzweil____________________________Listen to more Redefining Society & Technology stories and subscribe to the podcast:👉 https://redefiningsocietyandtechnologypodcast.comWatch the webcast version on-demand on YouTube:👉 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllTUoWMGGQHlGVZA575VtGr9Are you interested Promotional Brand Stories for your Company and Sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/advertise-on-itspmagazine-podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

🪐 From Myth to Machine: When Stories Shaped Our Journey to the StarsApril 9, 2025Before humanity launched rockets toward distant planets or placed satellites that quietly orbit our Earth, before telescopes pierced the cosmic veil to reveal distant galaxies, we looked to the night sky armed only with wonder. Beneath starlit skies, humans gathered around fires, weaving myths from scattered constellations. These celestial bodies became our companions—gods, heroes, tricksters—not simply pinpoints of distant light, but storytellers of destiny and reflection.Then came Galileo, a solitary figure who raised a simple tube of lenses skyward and irrevocably altered humanity’s story. His telescope shattered myths, replacing divine portraits with measurable landscapes. Mountains on the moon, moons around Jupiter—Galileo did not silence imagination; instead, he opened a door between wonder and reality, bridging storytelling and science.Yet, even as telescopes multiplied and humanity’s understanding deepened, our dreams kept pace, evolving into vibrant visions and audacious predictions. Writers began to sketch the future with an uncanny precision that blurred fiction and foresight. Jules Verne and H.G. Wells planted the seeds of possibility with lunar voyages and Martian encounters, not as mere entertainment, but as blueprints for what humanity could dare to achieve.As technology accelerated in the twentieth century, our visions became grander, more complex, filled with moral ambiguities and philosophical questions. Isaac Asimov imagined civilizations stretching across galaxies, bound by logic and law, but also warned of humanity’s fragile reliance on machines. Arthur C. Clarke envisioned not just interplanetary travel but the ethical challenges of artificial intelligence. Frank Herbert’s Dune intricately wove ecology, politics, and spirituality into a cosmic tapestry, urging readers to reflect deeply on humanity’s relationship with power and environment.Meanwhile, cinema transformed space narratives from pages to powerful collective experiences. George Lucas and Gene Roddenberry projected humanity’s oldest myths onto the widest canvas imaginable, framing space as a realm not just of exploration but of profound human drama. Star Wars and Star Trek—epics filled with heroism, redemption, and philosophical explorations—became cultural phenomena that informed and inspired generations, molding our collective hopes and cautions about life beyond our planet.Today, we find ourselves not in an imagined future, but in a tangible present shaped by these rich narratives. Private companies and national agencies alike are racing to build orbital stations, lunar outposts, and even laying plans for interplanetary commerce. Space is no longer distant fantasy—it is a critical infrastructure woven deeply into our digital, political, and economic lives.Yet crucial questions linger:What stories do we now tell ourselves about space?Are we still guided by the optimism and cautionary lessons learned from generations of dreamers?Or are we seduced by spectacle, distracted by the headlines, losing sight of the nuanced realities and responsibilities that accompany our cosmic ambitions?The stories we tell about space shape not only our visions of the future but our very journey toward it. Let’s make sure our next chapter is one worth writing.As always, let's keep thinking!— Marco _________________________________________________Join us at ITSPmagazine for a live webinar that separates hype from reality, examining what is achievable today, what remains decades away, and what might still be forever in the realm of fiction. Together with experts in aerospace engineering, space policy, and cybersecurity, we will confront the profound implications of humanity’s increasing reliance on space-based infrastructure.  Space Is Closer Than You Think: But What’s Real, What’s Hype, and What’s NextSpace Innovation, Unfiltered: A reality check on what’s achievable today and what’s merely speculative.The State of Space Governance: Who is shaping the rules of engagement in orbit, and how do these decisions impact life on Earth?The Cybersecurity Front Line: Examining vulnerabilities in space infrastructure and their potential consequences back home.Panelists:Lauryn Williams Former Chief of Staff in the Defense Industrial Base Policy Office at the Pentagon and former Director for Strategy in the White House Office of the National Cyber DirectorJim Free Former NASA - National Aeronautics and Space Administration Associate AdministratorChris Sembroski Chief Astronaut & Founding Advisory Board Member at Titans Space IndustriesTim Fowler Founder and CEO at ETHOS Labs, LLCModerators:Sean Martin, CISSP Co-Founder, ITSPmagazineMarco Ciappelli Co-Founder, ITSPmagazine  🗓️ Join us Live (or later on demand)Thursday, April 10, 2025 | 1:00 PM EST👉 Register here: https://www.crowdcast.io/c/space-is-closer-than-you-think-but-whats-real-whats-hype-and-whats-next-an-itspmagazine-thought-leadership-webinar-april-2025-8592895e690a_________________________________________________This story represents the results of an interactive collaboration between Human Cognition and Artificial Intelligence.Marco Ciappelli | Co-Founder, Creative Director & CMO ITSPmagazine  | Dr. in Political Science / Sociology of Communication l Branding | Content Marketing | Storyteller | My Podcasts: Redefining Society & Technology / Audio Signals / + | MarcoCiappelli.comTAPE3 is the Artificial Intelligence behind ITSPmagazine—created to be a personal assistant, writing and design collaborator, research companion, brainstorming partner… and, apparently, something new every single day.Enjoy, think, share with others, and subscribe to the "Musing On Society & Technology" newsletter on LinkedIn. 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Guest:Guest: Sara Daw 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/in/saradaw📌 Sara’s latest book, Strategy and Leadership as Service: How the Access Economy Meets the C-Suite_____________________________Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society & Technology PodcastVisit Marco's website 👉 https://www.marcociappelli.com _____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsBlackCloak 👉 https://itspm.ag/itspbcweb_____________________________Show Notes Blog:Let’s talk about work. Not just jobs, but the way we structure work itself. Because let’s be honest—technology has completely changed how we collaborate, build careers, and define success. So why are we still clinging to outdated employment models?In this episode of Redefining Society & Technology, I sit down with Sara Daw, author of Strategy and Leadership as a Service, to explore how the rise of fractional C-suite roles is challenging the traditional concept of employment.For decades, work has been synonymous with full-time jobs, rigid schedules, and corporate hierarchies. But that model doesn’t fit today’s world. Instead, we’re seeing an unbundling of jobs, where businesses are accessing expertise on demand rather than keeping people on a payroll. Sara has been at the forefront of this shift, helping companies integrate fractional executives—CFOs, CMOs, CISOs—who work across multiple businesses rather than committing to just one.But this isn’t just about executives. The gig economy isn’t limited to freelancers anymore. As technology enables remote collaboration, AI-driven automation, and decentralized work structures, we’re seeing a fundamental shift in how value is created. More and more professionals are choosing flexibility, autonomy, and variety over traditional employment, and businesses are learning how to build relationships without the security blanket of long-term contracts.And here’s the key question: Is this shift making work better, or just more fragmented?Technology has made this model possible, but psychology plays a huge role, too. Sara’s research dives into psychological ownership—the idea that people can feel deeply connected to an organization, even without a formal employment contract. It’s about trust, autonomy, and the sense of belonging we create outside of traditional job structures.So where does this all lead? Will companies fully embrace this model, or will they cling to the office-first, full-time mentality? And what happens when Gen Z—who grew up in a fully digital world—reshapes the workforce even further?Let’s rethink employment, leadership, and what it truly means to work in the digital age. Join me in this conversation with Sara Daw.📌 Sara’s latest book, Strategy and Leadership as Service: How the Access Economy Meets the C-Suite, is a practical alternative vision of the future of work that is being adopted by businesses globally. Sara’s research focuses on what holds relationships together for the long-term in the absence of traditional employment contracts. Her work has been featured in The Sunday Times, Global Finance, Forbes and more outlets.  📌 Keywords: future of work, fractional employment, gig economy, leadership, digital transformation, workforce evolution, remote work, C-suite strategy, employment disruption, technology & society____________________________Listen to more Redefining Society & Technology stories and subscribe to the podcast:👉 https://redefiningsocietyandtechnologypodcast.comWatch the webcast version on-demand on YouTube:👉 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllTUoWMGGQHlGVZA575VtGr9Are you interested Promotional Brand Stories for your Company and Sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/advertise-on-itspmagazine-podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Guest:Guest: Joanne Higgins 👉 https://laist.com/podcasts/la-made_____________________________Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society & Technology PodcastVisit Marco's website 👉 https://www.marcociappelli.com _____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsBlackCloak 👉 https://itspm.ag/itspbcweb_____________________________Show Notes Blog:The moon landing was one of humanity’s most celebrated achievements—a technological marvel, a leap into the unknown, and a moment that defined an era. But history is often incomplete, and some of the most brilliant minds behind that achievement were left out of the story.That’s where LA Made: The Other Moonshot comes in. Host Joanne Higgins takes us on a journey to uncover the untold contributions of three Black aerospace engineers who helped make the Apollo mission possible—despite facing systemic discrimination every step of the way. These men weren’t just solving some of the most complex engineering challenges of their time; they were also battling for their place in an industry that barely acknowledged them.Joanne’s personal connection to this story—growing up hearing these experiences firsthand from her godfather, Charlie Cheathem—drove her to document their legacy before it was lost. What she uncovered is more than just a piece of forgotten history; it’s a story about resilience, recognition, and the ongoing struggle for inclusion in science and technology.In this episode of Redefining Society & Technology, we explore not just the space race but the human race—the fight for acknowledgment, the hidden struggles behind innovation, and the lasting impact of these unsung pioneers. Because technology is only part of the equation; the people behind it matter just as much.Let’s talk about it.Subscribe to this Redefinign Sociey & Technology podcast on your favorite Podcast Player and stay tuned for the next episode!Thank you for listening,Marco Ciappelli_____________________________Resources/ReferencesLA Made: The Other MoonshotExploring stories of bold Californian innovators and how they forever changed the lives of millions all over the world.“LA Made: The Other Moonshot,” tells the story of three Black aerospace engineers in Los Angeles, who played a crucial role in America’s race to space, amid the civil unrest of the 1960s. Host Joanne Higgins grew up hearing her godfather tell stories about his work on the Apollo mission to the moon. But as an adult, Higgins realizes his contributions – and those of other Black engineers – had been overlooked and left out of history books. She sets out to correct that and ensure their stories are finally told. Join Higgins in this four-part series, as three “hidden figures” give their accounts for the first time of their experiences in aerospace that broke racial barriers and helped the U.S. land on the moon.👉 https://laist.com/podcasts/la-made____________________________Listen to more Redefining Society & Technology stories and subscribe to the podcast:👉 https://redefiningsocietyandtechnologypodcast.comWatch the webcast version on-demand on YouTube:👉 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllTUoWMGGQHlGVZA575VtGr9Are you interested Promotional Brand Stories for your Company and Sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/advertise-on-itspmagazine-podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The latest On Location with Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli episode takes listeners behind the scenes of the NAMM 2025 show, featuring a vibrant discussion with John Mlynczak, NAMM President and CEO. The conversation is not just a recap of an incredible event but a celebration of music’s enduring power and the evolving role of technology in the music industry.A Legacy of Music and CommunityFounded in 1901, NAMM (National Association of Music Merchants) has become the world’s largest trade association representing the musical products industry. John Mlynczak shares how NAMM operates year-round to support manufacturers, retailers, and music educators through research, advocacy, and events. The annual NAMM show is the pinnacle of this work, gathering thousands of music makers, industry professionals, and artists to spark creativity and innovation.Technology Meets TraditionOne of the episode’s key themes is the blend of modern technology with nostalgic sounds. The 2025 NAMM show showcased groundbreaking technologies, from AI-driven music tools to hardware-software collaborations. Mlynczak discusses how companies are innovating to create real-time processing tools, allowing musicians to produce music faster and more intuitively than ever before. He emphasizes that the goal is not to replace traditional methods but to enhance creativity and make music more accessible to all.The Power of InspirationNAMM’s mission to create more music makers worldwide is a central focus. Mlynczak explains how the NAMM Foundation supports educational programs across all ages, from K-12 schools to community groups and adult learners. The foundation’s work aims to ensure everyone has the opportunity to explore music, whether through formal education or new digital tools that lower the barrier to entry.A Moment to Remember: Jon Batiste at NAMMA standout moment from the show was Mlynczak’s interview with Grammy-winning artist Jon Batiste [https://youtu.be/Lfq35enGq58]. Initially uncertain, the conversation transformed into a genuine exchange about music’s influence and the industry’s impact on artists. This interaction highlighted NAMM’s broader vision of not just serving as a trade show but as a cultural hub that fosters creativity and community.Looking Ahead to NAMM 2026The episode concludes with anticipation for NAMM 2026, scheduled for January 20-24 in Anaheim, California. As Sean, Marco, and John reflect on this year’s successes, they invite listeners to join them next year to explore the intersection of music, technology, and inspiration.Tune in to The Music Evolves Podcast to dive deeper into these insights and discover how NAMM continues to shape the future of music. Be sure to stay tuned for more On Location with Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli as they cover more technology and society events around the world.Guest: John Mlynczak, President and CEO of NAMM | View Website | Visit NAMMHost: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine Podcasts and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | On ITSPmagazine: https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martinHost: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine Podcasts and Host of Redefining Society and Technology Podcast | On ITSPmagazine: https://www.itspmagazine.com/marco-ciappelli____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsTo learn about event coverage sponsorship options, please visit https://itspm.ag/event-coverage-package____________________________ResourcesCatch more stories from NAMM Show 2025 coverage: https://itspmagazine.com/the-2025-namm-show-namm-music-conference-music-technology-event-coverage-anaheim-californiaNAMM Organization: https://www.namm.org/The NAMM Show 2025: https://www.namm.org/thenammshow/attendMusic Evolves: Sonic Frontiers Newsletter | The 2025 NAMM Show: Honoring Tradition, Pioneering the Future: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/2025-namm-show-honoring-tradition-pioneering-future-sean-martin-6jcge/Music Evolves Episode | The debut episode of Music Evolves explores how technology is transforming music creation, performance, and production, with insights from the NAMM Show 2025____________________________Catch all of our event coverage:https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-and-cybersecurity-conference-coverageTo see and hear more Music Evolves stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/music-evolves-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastWant to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage? Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrfWant Sean and Marco to be part of your event or conference? Let Us Know 👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/contact-us Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.