

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
Evergreen Podcasts
Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Feb 21, 2021 • 30min
Moped Money w/ Torin Ellis
It's part 2 of our interview with Torin Ellis, DEI consultant, risk mitigator, and truth-teller! We continue to exorcise our demons while having some moped money laughs at the expense of Google, Kroger, and a very lame and lazy U.S. Department of Labor. The Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion force is strong in this one. LISTEN TO PART 1 Also, are you adding text recruiting in to your DEI engagement strategy? Maybe you should check out NEXXT while your listening to another great interview.
Feb 19, 2021 • 45min
Indeed's FUBAR UX
"Indeed gives zero fucks about employers!!!"... Yes, that's a quote from an employer... and No you're not surprised.What do you get when you cross Indeed desperation with Facebook hubris and throw in a dash of Google humility?This week's podcast, of course. What's more?
Entelo's ongoing meltdown,
Recruitee's (don't call it an) "acquisition"
and the grownups taking over at VONQ.
Recruitee and Sympa plat Wonder Twins
Working Not Working classes up Fiverr
As always, your favorite podcast is made possible by Jobvite, JobAdX, and Sovren.

Feb 18, 2021 • 4min
Google Caves to Pressure from Down Under
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Feb 17, 2021 • 3min
Entelo CRO Ejects
You might remember that last May Entelo unceremoniously kicked their founder and CEO to the curb, and soon to follow Chief Product Officer Danielle Weinblatt ejected from the Entelo ranks as well... It seems there is more... Listen :)The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology -- Recruitology brings artificial intelligence - that's AI kids - to job posting and distribution for employers large and small. Start posting your jobs using Recruitology today at recruitology.com/employers

Feb 17, 2021 • 36min
Firing Squad: Caroo's Gareth Peterson
UK-based and focused Caroo has tickled the industry's funny bone recently. With a series of marketing strategies that have pushed the boundaries of good taste (and made our eyes bleed a little), founder Gareth Peterson and team have gotten our attention.Yeah, they can cut through the clutter, but does their product have what it takes to face the Firing Squad and come out alive? You'll just have to have a listen, mate.Brought to you by Pandologic, a programmatic job advertising platform that delivers a significant increase in job ad performance without any wasteful spending
Feb 14, 2021 • 22min
Exorcising Our Demons
Crazy shit has been going down, right? What we need right now is a good exorcism. But it's so damned hard to allow your demons out for everyone to see, let alone exorcise them. If you live in the U.S. or have been watching the events over the past four years the demons are out, but not even close to exorcised. The Chad & Cheese sit down with Torin Ellis for a series of very uncomfortable conversations that need to happen. If you can't handle truth tellin' this interview with Torin Ellis might be too much for you, although it is something we all need. Sit back, listen, tweet, and do whatever it takes to unload as we all disagree, yet try to find our way back to common ground. This Chad and Cheese counseling session is powered by Sovren, AI so smart it doesn't need this kind of drama. Stay tuned for episode 2 coming soon.
Feb 12, 2021 • 49min
Paychex Squeezes Recruiting
Valentine's Day is close and love is in the air. What kind of love are we covering this week?
Paychex marries errrr... acquires Danish Applicant Tracking System, Emply
Recruiter.com consummates a deal with Scouted.io
Paradox gets all sex appealed up with video
then love is spread with Buy or Sell including - 1) WizeHire 2) Ethena 3) Nexthink
... and Sunday's Super Bowl ads get us all mistyYup, hooking up, video dating, and slapping around some startups, all on this love-filled episode of your favorite podcast, sponsored as always by Sovren, JobAdx, and Jobvite.
Feb 10, 2021 • 33min
To Check or Not To Check?
We know, you'd rather play with a bag o' glass than listen to a podcast about background checks, huh? Bet you'd change your mind if you knew the guest had worked at NASA and did a stint in the South Pole though, right? In this episode, the boys join Kim Jones, professor at UC Davis, and dig into the seedy underbelly of the business of background checks and point a big finger at the HR folks who major in laziness instead of getting to the heart of each human being who seek employment.More podcasting goodness powered by the wonderful people at Nexxt. Wait, you're not using text messaging to recruit? Contact NEXXT today.

Feb 9, 2021 • 4min
Paradox Adds Video to Chatbot
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
Feb 7, 2021 • 34min
Google Jobs Antitrust
Adzuna CEO and Founder Doug Monro have a thing or two to say about Google's anti-competitive practices, particularly around job search. He's even joined his fellow European industry heads in an official complaint against Big G, so deciding whether or not to have him on the podcast was a no-brainer.In addition to search, Doug has a lot to say about programmatic advertising, fraudulent job postings, problems with your ATS of choice, and XML feeds (boy, does he have something to say about XML feeds!).Enjoy the Sovren powered pod!


