

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Feb 14, 2022 • 27min
Firing Squad: TechScreen's Mark Knowlton
Screening tech talent is smokin' hot right now. You know the names: HackerRank, Byteboard, Woven, Triplebyte and others. But do you know Tech Screen? If the answer is NO, then you owe it to yourself to checkout this episode of Firing Squad. Chad & Cheese put CEO and founder Mark Knowlton on the hot seat to answer some tough questions. Does he make it out alive? Gotta listen.

Feb 11, 2022 • 44min
SmartRecruiters and Checkr Go Shopping
Maybe it's the fact the boys are recording from the Arizona desert this week, but this show is hot, hot hot! SmartRecruiters and Checkr go shopping, Enboarder gets paid, the Valley is bummed about losing workers to Web3 and we finally get some numbers around the metaverse ... including a definition. Pass the sunscreen and turn it up.This one gets toasty.

Feb 9, 2022 • 43min
Radancy and Phenom buy European
While the world teeters on geopolitical confrontation, Chad & Cheese continue to keep the peace with Belgian brother from another mother, Lieven Van Nieuwenhuyze, and special guest Geert-Jan Waasdorp founder at Intelligence Group in The Netherlands. This episode, the boys cover Otta from the Europeans perspective, while tackling new topics like Radancy's acquisition of Firstbird and Phenom's purchase of Tendemploy. Additionally, a little buy-or-sell commences with Alva Labs, Jobilla, and Kleoverse. Spoiler alert: There's a lot of sell, sell, sell!

Feb 7, 2022 • 39min
Deep Fake Recruiting
Remember seeing and hearing your first Deep Fake? Synthesized voices that sound like your favorite movie star. Not a great impressionist, on the contrary, algorithmically cloned voices where even the subtlest of nuances of a voice can be captured and recreated. Cringy, yet incredibly cool that tech could accomplish such a feat. Yes, technology is advancing quickly and unfortunately many of the advances are seen as negative. Luckily, Ryan Steelberg, president, and founder of Veritone guides us through a more advanced cloned voice discussion. On this episode we cover:
The difference between a deep fake and a "cloned" voices
Practical applications for using cloned voices
Where are chatbots headed?
Will this tech help candidate and employee engagement?
How do Pandologic and Wade and Wendy fit into the ecosystem?
Well kids, welcome to the Matrix.

Feb 4, 2022 • 50min
hireEZ Lemon Squeezy
The world of employment took a break from crowning unicorns this week, and that's just fine with Chad & Cheese, who have gotten a little tired of taking the crazy pills on such a regular basis.
In its place, Hiretual has a new brand and new money in the bank,
Woven took a Series A,
Bullhorn created an investment arm,
the NFL has a race problem (still), Home Depot is hiring too fast or not fast enough? ...and finally.
OnlyFans has another termination (allegedly) to add to its portfolio. This time, a cop. You have the right to remain sexy unless it steps on our Puritan sensibilities.
Take some crazy pills and enjoy!

Feb 2, 2022 • 40min
Employer Brand Evolution
The world has changed and so has the employment branding game. That's why Chad & Cheese have relaunched the Cult Brand series with the help of RecruitmentMarketing.com's Julie Calli. And what better guest to bring on the show than marketing magic man Chris Kneeland of Cult Collective? The group discusses issues around holistic brand,HR's newly minted seat at the table, branding in a post-pandemic and WFH world, and much, much more.

Feb 2, 2022 • 4min
Hiretual Raises $26M, Rebrands with New Name
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Jan 31, 2022 • 35min
When They Become Us
To say we were giddy about interviewing someone connected to the movie "Wolf of Wall Street" would be the understatement of the year. Yet, here we are. And why is Richard Bronson, a former partner at the "Wolf of Wall Street" firm talking to Chad & Cheese? Turns out he runs a site dedicated to finding employment for former felons called 70MillionJobs.com. It's important work that turns out to be one helluva podcast. Most interestingly, the impact on The Great Resignation as it pertains to job seekers with a criminal record isn't going as anyone expected.This one's a must-listen. Enjoy!

Jan 28, 2022 • 48min
Zip Phils LinkedIn Fakes and Darwin's Box
Yeah, yeah, there's a unicorn on this episode that'll make you think of SNL's "Dick in a Box" skit, but there's so much more.Like, how about startup Otta receiving investment from an Indeed cofounder, or ZipRecruiter unleashing some cyber dude named Phil on job seekers or LinkedIn's fake profile problem. No? Well how about a psychedelic frog? Oh, and Craigslist is still significant.Gotta listen or you lose out.

Jan 27, 2022 • 4min
Here's Why You Oughta Know Otta
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.


