

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Jan 5, 2022 • 34min
Firing Squad: Grayscale's Ty Abernethy
You're probably texting right now, aren't you? And if you're not texting now, you will be soon.That's why text recruiting remains such a hot solution. And that's why industry veteran Ty Abernathy launched Grayscale. But there's a lot of competition out there - hello Canvas, TextRecruit, Emissary, Rectxt, and the rest - so escaping the Firing Squad with his pride intact is no guarantee. Did Ty survive, and what about that name, the one that sounds more like an investment firm or a bad '80s Tarzan movie? Gotta listen to find out.

Jan 3, 2022 • 21min
What Women Want w/ Romy Newman
What are the best companies to work for if you're a woman in 2021? Female-focused employee review site Fairygodboss is a good place to start. Co-founder and president Romy Newman join the boys and dives into the survey, which outlines companies from tech to finance to consulting and more. And if you didn't make it onto a Best of list this year, Romy tells you how you might get on the list in 2022.

Dec 31, 2021 • 41min
Paradox Unicorns while Randstad Face Plants
Turns out, recording this podcast was the only thing standing between Chad & Cheese and a bottomless bottle of Blanton's to ring in the New Year ... so hold the small talk and get to the point. This show is tight, discussing everything from Paradox' latest unicorn-birthing round of investment, fundraising by Monster - wait, who? - and, well, we had to end the year on some TikTok chatter, didn't we? Happy 2022, ya' filthy animals!As always, a special "cheers" to sponsors Sovren, JobAdx and Jobvite.

Dec 27, 2021 • 4min
Paradox Enters Unicorn Status with $200M Investment
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology. Disclosure: Cohost of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Joel Cheesman, owns a small stake of Paradox shares based on a his former company being acquired by Jobing, a past holding of Paradox or one of its holding companies.

Dec 24, 2021 • 44min
T-Mobile vs. JB Hunt
Ho, ho, holy hell it's been a while since Chad & Cheese were on the mic together, but the boys are back in the saddle again, tackling the following topics like only they know how: Facebook shutting down its job board outside North America, Kronos getting hit by a ransomware attack, Turing becoming the latest unicorn, JB Hunt playing Scrooge, T-Mobile playing good ol' St. Nick and the Army kicking COVID's ass. Hallelujah! Holy shit! Where's the Tylenol!!! As always, your favorite podcast is powered by great sponsors like Sovren, JobAdX, and Jobvite.

Dec 23, 2021 • 4min
Unicorn Alert: Turing Lands $87M at $1.1B Valuation
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Dec 21, 2021 • 6min
Indeed Must Be Laughing
Another MAJOR player bites the dust.Big thanks Recruitology for supporting The Shred. Recruitology brings machine learning and AI to virtual job fairs, remember when virtual job fairs were lame? Not anymore, check out how you can leverage candidate matching and programmatic job distribution with a virtual job fair at recruitology.com/employers.

Dec 17, 2021 • 55min
Making Moves
Chad is reenergized and back after another stint in Europe, Joel is drinking Corona's on a beach in Mexico, and Mr. ATS (Peter Gold) slides into the guest host seat to talk news, moves, and....
Will PageUp be a Path in Motion?
Is Stepstone's master AppCast plan working?
Does Textkernel now own the market?
and some Buy or Sell with:
1) AdeptID
2) VideoMyJob and
3) myGwork
Let's do this!

Dec 14, 2021 • 4min
SmartRecruiters Teaming Up with PandoLogic
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Dec 13, 2021 • 31min
The Great Awakening w/ Andrew Flowers
The pandemic, labor shortages, and a supply chain debacle have opened our eyes to many subjects like immigration, wages, retirement, remote work, working conditions, and many other factors that impact our everyday lives. These major events have provided clarity around many of these issues and on this episode Andrew Flowers, Labor Economist with Appcast sits down with The Chad and Cheese to start digging into a wide variety of these issues.Because at the center of all the economic banter is, TALENT!


