

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Feb 28, 2022 • 30min
The Inflation Boogeyman
Inflation is on everyone's mind right now. How will it impact wages? Are bloated margins to blame? How about immigration? How will it impact the cost of doing business? What's going to happen with energy prices? Interestingly, history can tell us a lot about what the future holds. That's why the boys have brought back Columbia professor Suresh Naidu to make sense of the current state of inflation.

Feb 25, 2022 • 36min
LIVE from Sun King Brewery
Two idiot podcasters and an industry CEO walk into a brewery …No, it’s not a joke. Chad & Cheese threw back some brews with Pillar.hr’s CEO and Founder Mark Simpson last week, and luckily for you, the mics were on. Talkin’ remote work, employee culture and the power of Middle America to reshape the coasts.Cheers!

Feb 24, 2022 • 4min
Fama Lands $10M Series B
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Feb 23, 2022 • 32min
The C-Suite is Listening
Strike while the iron is hot! Lisa Zone, managing director at Dix & Eaton joins us to talk about how recruiting, hiring, engagement, and talent management is at the center of every board room conversation. But who is equipped and positioned to formulate the story and business case in building a strong employer brand? Another great show complete with Cult Employer Brand master Julie Calli. Seriously, you wanted the ear of your CEO and board. Now what are you going to do with the opportunity?

Feb 21, 2022 • 34min
Unicorn Status w/ Anoop Gupta
There seems to be a new $1B unicorn born every day in the employment industry, but only one has the distinction of being a Chad & Cheese 'Death Match' winner. Enter SeekOut and its CEO and cofounder Anoop Gupta, who recently closed a Series C to the tune of $115M and a $1.2B valuation, who joins the boys for a friendly chat. About what? How about international growth plans, diversity offerings, competing with Eightfold and Phenom (and just about everyone else), and much, much more.

Feb 18, 2022 • 46min
Wall Street Roundup: Indeed, Glassdoor, Upwork, Seek, Randstad & Dice
If you love financial news, Buy-or-Sell and snarky commentary around those two things, then this episode if your wet dream. The boys are talkin' earnings and Wall Street news from Seek, Recruit Holdings (Indeed.com, Glassdoor), Randstad, Upwork and Dice this week, as well as playing buy-or-sell with Haul, Kevala, JobPixel, Alongside and Mystery. But it's no mystery that this episode rocks, ending with a reality check around pay transparency.

Feb 16, 2022 • 4min
Canada's Alongside Raises $8M
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Feb 16, 2022 • 38min
Crimes Against Talent Pipelines
You have questions....What is RM automation?What does candidate nurture really mean?What is a true talent pipeline?Are you and your company committing crimes against talent pipelines?All great questions for any organization, and the boys, partnered with RecruitmentMarketing.com's Julie Calli, bring on CandidateID's Adam Gordon to the podcast to cover a broad range of recruitment marketing questions and challenges. It's a must-listen for any employer looking to take their game to the next level.

Feb 14, 2022 • 27min
Firing Squad: TechScreen's Mark Knowlton
Screening tech talent is smokin' hot right now. You know the names: HackerRank, Byteboard, Woven, Triplebyte and others. But do you know Tech Screen? If the answer is NO, then you owe it to yourself to checkout this episode of Firing Squad. Chad & Cheese put CEO and founder Mark Knowlton on the hot seat to answer some tough questions. Does he make it out alive? Gotta listen.

Feb 11, 2022 • 44min
SmartRecruiters and Checkr Go Shopping
Maybe it's the fact the boys are recording from the Arizona desert this week, but this show is hot, hot hot! SmartRecruiters and Checkr go shopping, Enboarder gets paid, the Valley is bummed about losing workers to Web3 and we finally get some numbers around the metaverse ... including a definition. Pass the sunscreen and turn it up.This one gets toasty.


