

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Oct 21, 2022 • 51min
Amazon Ain't FairyGodBoss of Me
After a weeklong hiatus, thanks to a little trek to Unleash in Paris, the boys are back and badder than ever. On this episode, they dissect the recent acquisition of Paycor and Talenya, the investment in Ten Thousand Coffees - which has nothing to do with actual coffee, by the way - and then play a little thumbs-up / thumbs-down with The Muse acquiring Fairygodboss, CareerBeacon buying Ruutly (a Canadian double-double, Tim Hortons-style), Glassdoor filters and TaTiO grabbin' that paper. Amazon is in a pickle again and Robot Baristas take on San Francisco (boycott THIS! workers).

Oct 20, 2022 • 6min
Shredded: Talenya, Ten Thousand Coffees, Beeline, Utmost, Paycor, CareerBeacon & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Oct 19, 2022 • 32min
Round Peg, Square Cho w/ Richard Cho
How often do you hear an interview with a recruiter who’s done time at Cisco, Facebook, Docusign, eBay, Robinhood and now Gem? Well, today’s your lucky day. Chad & Cheese has a chat with Richard Cho, Chief Recruiting Officer at Gem to talk about a wide variety of challenges around being a CRO, like recognizing that the bottom-line rules all, navigating the Chief People Officer and managing a down economy. We even veer off course down Memory Lane once or twice. Enjoy.

Oct 17, 2022 • 31min
Firing Squad: Hireproof's Nick Barth
An American and a Finn meetup on Reddit and a startup is born. Finland-based Hireproof promises to make anyone a world-class interviewer just by clicking a link. Really? Yeah, really. Cofounder Nick Barth joins Chad & Cheese for a lively episode of Firing Squad, pitching his product that promises "delight," "happiness" and "less bias" in the hiring process. Is Hireproof primed to set the world on fire, or is it a wet blanket. Gotta listen.

Oct 14, 2022 • 50min
UNLEASH Wrap & AI Hiring Regulations
Live from Paris at UNLEASH World, the boys are on stage with Keith Sonderling, EEOC Commissioner & Oana Iordachescu Associate Director, Talent Acquisition - Technology Europe/Asia at Wayfair Deutschland. And they’re talkin’ A.I. issues in hiring, focused on Europe. We’re always keeping you away from land mines, no matter the continent. What’s more? How about a special show summary with fellow podcaster Matt “That British Guy” Alder? You’re welcome.

Oct 13, 2022 • 5min
Shredded: Fairygodboss, The Muse, Enate, Humaans, Jomigo, Revelio & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Oct 12, 2022 • 2min
World Domination, Okay HR Podcast Domination
The Chad and Cheese Podcast has already taken the world by storm. What's next?

Oct 10, 2022 • 39min
Stop Pinkwashing Already
Over 8 million workers in the U.S. identify as LGBT. Spoiler alert: That's a lot! Yet, corporate America isn't very hospitable to this influential demo when it comes to work. In fact, a recent UCLA survey found 50 percent of LGBT employees are not 'out' to their supervisors, and 34 percent of LGBT have left their job due to treatment by their employers. What's the problem? Never fear, we have answers. That's why we invited Sara Grossman, founder & CEO of CODE-MKTG, and Sabrina Kent, EVP of programs and external affairs for the National LGBT Chamber of Commerce (NGLCC) to come on the pod and set us straight. Did we learn a lot? You bet we did. And you will too.

Oct 7, 2022 • 40min
Unicorn Falling?
Recording from downtown Nashville and nursing a hangover, the boys cover a plethora of topics, including iCIMS settling a legal battle, layoffs and “layoffs” at Indeed and Eightfold, SHRM playing kingmaker with vendors and the World’s Worst CEO. Raising money this week is Erin, Grayscale, and Workstream. Pass the Hot Chicken!

Oct 6, 2022 • 8min
Shredded: Salary.com, SHRM, Erin, Workstream, ZenHR, Grayscale, Rely.io, Comprehensive & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.


