

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Jan 11, 2023 • 36min
StepStone is Stepping Out
Boy, turn your back on Europe for one second over the holidays and Axel Springer announces Stepstone is going IPO. Europe never sleeps when it comes to employment, indeed. What's more? How about a rumored billion Euro acquisition of a staffing company, Russia posting jobs for trench diggers in Ukraine and Pornhub's yearend Most Popular Searches, featuring the naughty habits of European countries from Spain to Finland. Find out what pegging, and hentai are. Sorry (and you're welcome)! Oh yeah, and the date for House of HR's annual conference in Amsterdam gets revealed.

Jan 9, 2023 • 14min
No Registration Needed w/ Bas van de Haterd
Let's be honest. Your career site probably sucks. But there's little data out there to show you exactly HOW MUCH it sucks. That's why we wanted to have a chat with Bas van de Haterd, an independent consultant and entrepreneur based in The Netherlands, while we hangout at UNLEASH in Paris recently. For the last 10 years Bas has run a major piece of research that audits the career sites of the largest 500 Dutch employers and he has a huge amount of data to share, including how to audit a career site, what social media sites perform best and how to best build an employer brand. If you have a career website - and you know you do - then this interview is a must-listen.

Jan 6, 2023 • 1h 5min
New CEOs at Workday, Snagajob; Indeed's Sneaky New TOS
A new year always brings new promise. For three companies in the employment space, it also means a new CEO. For Indeed, it means a new Terms of Service wrought with unpleasant surprises for those not paying attention. It also means new and interesting ways to quit your job, as Walmart recently found out. With Chad still getting his holiday hangover under control, Cheese is joined by industry veteran Sarah White, CEO at Aspect43, to help make sense of everything going on in the world of recruitment for the first week of 2023.

Jan 5, 2023 • 5min
Shredded: BetterPlace, Workday, Sterling Check, Socrates, Atreus, Ingenovis Health & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Jan 4, 2023 • 30min
Your Clone is Ready w/ Natalie Monbiot
We get it. Tech is moving fast. From chatbots and conversational A.I. to automated video recruiting to the metaverse and more, it's exhausting to keep up. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it's about to get a little more complicated. Meet Hour One, a company specializing in the development of virtual humans for use in professional video communications, including human resources. The company's head of strategy, Natalie Monbiot, joins Chad & Cheese for a wide array of questions, including Why waste your time on HR? Give your brain a good stretch, and let's do this.

Dec 30, 2022 • 28min
2022's Top 3
The year is almost over, so the boys are taking a second to nurse their holiday hangovers and reminisce about their favorite episodes from 2022. Included are shows featuring everything from Indeed to witchcraft to TikTok to killing Madonna and much, much more.

Dec 23, 2022 • 35min
Naughty and Nice 2022
What's a holiday season without the boys giving their top picks for naughtiest and nicest stories, characters, and commentary from the year that was 2022? Hot garbage, that's what! Featured are Slack, LinkedIn, pay transparency, Indeed, and (of course) OnlyFans. The boys also give their picks for most binge-worthy content from music to podcasts to movies and more. Enjoy ... and don't shoot your eye out!

Dec 22, 2022 • 6min
Shredded: retrain.ai, Jaid, Keith Forshew, Grata, EsquireX & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Dec 21, 2022 • 26min
Best and Worst - Holiday Show
Maybe you've noticed that we're on the doorstep of another holiday season. If not, what's wrong with ya', ya' filthy animal? As such, The Chad & Cheese Podcast Does Recruitment Marketing, featuring Julie Calli, President at RecruitmentMarketing.com, dives into the movies and songs that make the season so special (or a nightmare, in this case). Specifically, the gang shares their favorite and least favorite flicks and tunes. Hallelujah! Where's the Tylenol?

Dec 19, 2022 • 28min
The Pay Equity Fix w/ Zev Eigen
Think empowering organizations to solve the gender and racial pay gap, cutting costly unwanted attrition, reducing bias in employment decisions, and improving true engagement and collaboration was something you couldn't quantify? Think again. That's why Chad & Cheese grabbed Syndio's CEO and Chief Data Scientist, Zev Eigen, while at UNLEASH in Paris to dive into the topic of pay transparency. The technology around the issue being developed is fascinating, making this a must-listen.ICYMI listen to our Pay with Equity episode with Maria Colacurcio.


