

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Apr 13, 2023 • 7min
Shredded: LinkedIn, Remote, Velocity Global, Circa, Mitratech, Assis, Rodeo, Trakstar & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Apr 12, 2023 • 32min
Firing Squad: Compt's Amy Spurling
People love perks. Employees love them even more. Unfortunately, startups looking to make employee perks easy, scalable, and tax-compliant have come and gone over the years. Compt.io thinks they have a better mousetrap. That’s why Amy Spurling, CEO, and founder, has come on the Firing Squad. In a market expected to reach approximately $346 million by 2025, the stakes are high. Does Amy make it out alive? Gotta listen.

Apr 10, 2023 • 7min
Shredded: HiBob, Radancy, LeapXpert, Hyperjob, Fyndo, Ascendify & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Apr 7, 2023 • 50min
Radancy Retrofit
On this week's episode I'm joined by Quincy "Queen of Chatbots" Valencia as Joel continues his aspirations to be more like his idol, Clark Griswold, with a family Vegas vacation. I got nothin' man, seriously. Any who, this week's episode is packed with goodies like:
Radancy acquiring Ascendify
LeapXpert gives creepy a run for its money
Kelly Fusion launches DIGITAL WORKERS!
300 million jobs to be replaced by automation
Everybody gonna ChatGPT - Hireology, Beamery, Seekout, Phenom, who else?!?!
Is GDPR Europe's secret weapon?
... and your office mates say that you talk too much, you never shut up!
It's another tech-packed episode and The Queen of Chatbots is holding court! You're welcome!

Apr 5, 2023 • 42min
EUROPE: Stepstone Dumps Cammio
Finland joins NATO, virtual cheese is now and thing and WOW, that whole Axel Springer taking Stepstone public isn't going well... Is it? After being acquired by Stepstone, Cammio, a video recruitment platform, is won back through a management buyout. Lieven professes his obsession with ChatGPT. Okay his healthy obsession, while we debate ownership, banning, GDPR, and some techniques. Plus, Buy or Sell with Patch, Cruit, and Epinote. If you're allergic to great content you have been warned, grab your EpiPen, a cold beer and enjoy!

Apr 3, 2023 • 1h 11min
Co-Opting Recruiting A.I.
Thank heavens for tenue... How else would The Chad & Cheese's brash, challenging, and no-bullshit attitude get in the same room, hell the same solar system, as NYU and UNC academics?Yup, tenue has got to be the answer.Earlier this year, NYU’s Institute for Public Knowledge, the 370 Jay Project, and the NYU Tandon Department of Technology, Culture and Society hosted a new discussion in the series “Co-Opting AI”, which included this humble podcast.This event was created to examine how AI intersects with recruiting and with gaining access to the labor market. Taking a deep look into the industry and providing insights on the HR tech sector.The players:Ifeoma Ajunwa is an Associate Professor of Law with tenure at UNC School of Law.https://www.linkedin.com/in/ifeomaajunwa/Mona Sloane is a sociologist working on design and inequality, specifically in the context of AI design and policy.https://www.linkedin.com/in/mona-sloane-ph-d-8b512656/...and The Chad & Cheese :)Props to The Co-Opting AI event series and Mona Sloane. It is hosted at IPK and co-sponsored by the 370 Jay Project, and the NYU Tandon Department of Technology, Culture, and Society, and the NYU Center for Responsible AI.https://ipk.nyu.edu/https://engineering.nyu.edu/academics/departments/technology-culture-and-societyhttps://engineering.nyu.edu/research-innovation/centers/center-responsible-ai

Mar 31, 2023 • 49min
Chatbots Are Back!
If you’re tired of hearing about ChatGPT, employers and vendors behaving badly, money-grubbing startups, and millions being made on OnlyFans, then maybe this episode isn’t for you. But in the likely chance that these topics are just what the doctor ordered, Chad & Cheese cover:
Beamery boarding the ChatGPT train,
Deel and Chipotle losing the Employer of the Year competition in just the first quarter of 2023,
Buy-or-Sell with Paraform, Workera, and Payday,
and a lawyer giving up the legal professional for a lewd career on OnlyFans.
Feel free to hold us in contempt of court, counselor!FULL TRANSCRIPT AT chadcheese.com

Mar 30, 2023 • 7min
Shredded: Workera, Paraform, CoachHub, Payday, EuroJobsites, Carbon Neutral Club & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Mar 29, 2023 • 38min
Marketing is Clueless with Brett Marz
Too often, marketing and Human Resources seem to speak different languages, which is a shame, because they have so much in common. The message that happy employees equals happy customers is ignored by too many companies. That’s we brought Brett Marz, co-founder at BAMKO (not to be mistaken for Ronco). Haven’t heard of BAMKO? They’re a more than $200 million company that designs, manufactures, and delivers award-winning branded merchandise for some of the world’s biggest brands, typically supporting employee engagement items. Needless to say, he has a lot to say on the disconnect between marketing and talent acquisition, and you’re going to hear about it. Enjoy.

Mar 27, 2023 • 38min
Building a Talent Powerhouse with Tech, Automation & Revenue Growth
Today we have a special edition of The Chad & Cheese Podcast for you today. Cue the ABBA music, which can only mean one thing, a Swedish twist as Sara Dalsfelt, Head of Brand and Community, over at Adway invited Joel and me to come on her show to talk about Building a TA Power House through Tech, Automation, & Revenue Growth. With over 1,800 registrants, much like every show, Joel and I knew that we had to bring the heat.So, we did... Enjoy!


