

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Jul 20, 2017 • 41min
Google Hire Officially Launches, Indeed and LinkedIn Aren’t Taking the News Sitting Down
The boys are back after the 4th holiday and Chad trekking to Oregon for college visitations. And it’s a good thing, because the news was hot-and-heavy this week. Google Hire officially launched. Are the guys impressed or not? Indeed and LinkedIn were also making waves this week. In Indeed’s case, the product offerings continue to come down the pike. One of the guys is not impressed. LinkedIn, on the other hand, is busy leveraging its relationship with Microsoft to get deeper into Windows 10 and video. And they also really, really hates when people do (tune in to find out). Additionally, some start-up just got a check for $30 million to take on this segment of the industry. In other news, some head of HR said a certain social media app was the “new LinkedIn.” Really? Really?!?! As usual, visit partners America’s Job Exchange, Sovren and Wonscore by Wonderlic. Without them, there ain’t no show, people. Enjoy and stay cool. It’s friggin’ hot out there.

Jul 14, 2017 • 35min
Talking Millennials, Employment Brand and Employee Assessments with the CEO of Wonderlic
While Chad is on vacation in Oregon and consuming enough craft brews to hydrate a frat party, Joel Cheesman is left to hold down the fort. Listeners won't be disappointed. This week, we deliver an interview with the CEO of Wonderlic, Charlie Wonderlic. Football fans will recognize the Wonderlic name for the assessment tests they provide for the NFL during the combine. Employers will know the Wonderlic name for the assessment tests they offer, making sure employees are perfect fits for their organization.Charlie Wonderlic gives us his opinion on recruiting Millennials and how they're different from previous generations like Gen X and Baby Boomers. And then we explore how do assessments play into employment brand. Charlie also goes in depth on his opinion on how automation affects employee testing and the jobs of the future, as well as how the current state of employment in America and the gig economy creates new challenges for employers. It's a podcast you don't want to miss.And as usual, visit our sponsors and throw mad paper in their direction, since they're the only reason we get to do what we do ... America's Job Exchange, Wonscore by Wonderlic and Sovren.

Jul 10, 2017 • 36min
Jumping into Indeed’s Walled Garden Against Google | Canvas’ Text Recruiting | Deep Thoughts from Jobg8
Still a little hungover from the 4th of July holiday, the boys dive into Indeed’s walled garden against Google, wonder if old school job board SEO is dead and drop wisdom and perspective following the Jobg8 conference. Put on your big-boy pants and buckle-up. Also, we look at Canvas and why others aren’t on the text messaging bandwagon, asking are ATS’s next. And what podcast would be complete without news items discussing robots … this time, however, we’re talkin’ sex robots. You may need some protection on this week’s podcast. Enjoy. As usual, support the sponsors, including newbie Sovren and America’s Job Exchange and Wonscore by Wonderlic. We don’t exist without them, so go throw paper at them.

Jun 30, 2017 • 36min
With special guest Bill Fanning: Are you embracing or fighting Google? | Why is CareerBuilder snuggling up to Google? | Does anyone care about compliance?
Where’s Cheese? Chad brings recruiting industry veteran and America’s Job Exchange GM Bill Fanning to the mic while Joel takes a much-needed vacation. Chad takes aim at Bill with questions like – What the Hell is going on in this crazy AI/Google shiny object market? Is AJE playing stubborn (like Indeed) and fighting Google or are you bringing the big G in real close? Should Careerbuilder be anxious about a 1/2 price clearance sale? and last but not least does anyone really care about compliance? Enjoy, and make sure you visit our sponsors, America’s Job Exchange, Nexxt and Wonscore by Wonderlic.

Jun 21, 2017 • 29min
Live from Jobg8 Job Board Summit in New Orleans (There Will Be Drinks)
The boys headed down the The Big Easy this week for a live podcast at the Jobg8 Job Board Summit. As usual, they weren’t so “easy” with the commentary on CareerBuilder, who is valued at $500 million, instead of the $1 billion-plus price tag originally touted. They also didn’t hold back their criticism of Beyond, who just changed their name to Nexxt. (Pretty sure some Nexxt employees in the front row were throwing peanuts at us when we weren’t looking.) And, of course, what show would be complete without commentary on all-things-Google? This time, however, there was feedback from job boards owners on early results on traffic. It’s back to the future, as the show veered toward how Indeed had a similar strategy 10 years ago. Enjoy, and, as always, support our sponsors. This thing crashes and burns without them: America’s Job Exchange, Beyond.com/cheddar, er, Nexxt?

Jun 16, 2017 • 40min
McDonald’s Goes All-In on Snapchat | Amazon Wants to Buy Slack | Entelo Gets $20 Million
What started out as a slow week certainly turned up as time passed. Entelo received $20 million in funding, and the boys discuss what’s really behind all the money flowing into A.I. Can you say “land grab”? Amazon, yes, that Amazon is rumored to be bidding on Slack to the tune of $9 billion. That’s with a “b” folks. McDonald’s is looking to hire 250,000 employees this season in the U.S. and are going to rely on Snapchat to fill a few of those positions. The bet is sure to make competitors stand-up and take notice. Snaplications are officially a thing now. Indeed has officially launched Career Pages in an attempt to appeal to small businesses, and at least one of the boys has a guess on where the company is going next. The show welcomes a new advertiser this week. A big welcome to Wonscore by Wonderlic. Check ’em out (there’s an exclusive deal). And keep going to current sponsors America’s Job Exchange and Beyond.com/cheddar.

Jun 9, 2017 • 37min
Workey and Clustree Get Paid | TaskRabbit Grows | Kalo is ‘Badass’ | Olivia & Mya Get Competition | Recruitics Gets All Analyticky
It was a busy week. Economic megatrends continue to take hold. There are more job openings than ever before, and that has invigorated the gig economy and put recruiters in a strong sellers market for many positions. TaskRabbit, where anyone who will deliver your laundry or fix your door hinge can make cash, is growing into new markets. Kalo, a Silicon Valley darling, has investment cash and hope to be a “badass recruiting engine.” And times are so tight that the Secret Service is employing these types now. Tech continues to march on too. Workey and Clustree get buckets of cash, making this technology even hotter than ever before. There’s a new competitor in the chatbot landscape, which probably makes services like Mya and Olivia that much more valuable. Recruitics launches a solution that should’ve been introduce about 15 years ago. But, hey, better late than never, right? And make sure you visit our sponsors. We exist because of them: America’s Job Exchange and Beyond.com/cheddar.

Jun 1, 2017 • 30min
Live from TA Tech Summit – All Things Google for Jobs
The boys were at TA Tech Summit in Minneapolis June 1, and did a live broadcast on all things Google … we’re talkin’ Google Cloud Jobs API, Google Hire and Google for Jobs. They even discussed ideas for what the future might look like. Special thanks to Peter Weddle and his son for having us and giving us a platform to expand the podcast listenership. As usual, visit our sponsors, because they make it all possible: America’s Job Exchange and Beyond.com/cheddar.

May 30, 2017 • 37min
CareerBuilder Gets a Haircut | Snapchatting Gets Someone an Internship | Indeed Strikes Back in 'Battle of the Buttons'
This week, the boys discuss a big discount in the acquisition price tag for CareerBuilder based on a Reuters report. Someone actually got a job opportunity, compliments of Snapchat. Here's how. Then they revisit the garbage pile and give advice on how Talent.io might fix it's junk status.Jibe goes all-in on Google for everything and they boys debate whether that's a good thing. Should others get knee-deep in the search engine's employment technology or say bye-bye-bye? An Indeed partnership with these guys is a move into getting an Indeed Apply button all around the Web, fending off Google's onslaught ... only one of the guys like the strategy. Listen to find out which one.Enjoy, and don’t forget to visit our sponsors, who make it all worthwhile: America’s Job Exchange, WebClipDrop (coupon code HIREDAILY2017) and Beyond.com/cheddar.

May 19, 2017 • 44min
Google for Jobs Launches ... What the Hell Does Indeed.com Do Now?
Oldies but a goodie!It was a big week. The boys cover Google for Jobs officially launching and ask, "What the hell does Indeed do now? Talent.io gets investment cash, but one of the guys thinks it's a hot, steaming pile of garbage. LinkedIn keep churning out the hits with new features to these two popular products. And there's a differing of opinions on the death of job boards as Chad and Cheese look at two opposing business models. Enjoy, and don't forget to visit our sponsors, who make it all worthwhile: America's Job Exchange, WebClipDrop (coupon code HIREDAILY2017) and Beyond.com/cheddar.


