

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Dec 22, 2017 • 42min
Here’s Our Naughty & Nice Lists for 2017
We’ve made a list. We’ve checked it twice. And here’s our list of who’s been naughty and who’s been nice this year. It’s the perfect combination of sweet-and-sour for you to enjoy with a stout eggnog and pudding made of fig. Special holiday cheer for our amazing sponsors: America’s Job Exchange, Sovren, Nexxt and Ratedly.

Dec 17, 2017 • 44min
Indeed Comes Clean, ZipRecruiter Is On The Hunt & Your Job Titles Aren’t Amusing Us
Come all ye’ faithful if you seek all the latest news and commentary from the world of recruitment. This week the boys take on Indeed, ZipRecruiter and crappy job descriptions. It’s not personal, it’s just Chad & Cheese, HR’s most dangerous podcast. Need more? Yes, Indeed is raising prices … here’s what you need to know. ZipRecruiter is getting into the private label job board business … but why? Stop using these buzzwords in your job postings. AI, AI and more AI … the latest investments you need to know. An introduction to initial coin offerings (ICO) in online recruitment. The boys would prefer to sip egg nog under the mistletoe, but duty calls. And as always, get on over to our sponsors and show ’em some love: Sovren, America’s Job Exchange, Nexxt and Ratedly.

Dec 10, 2017 • 39min
‘Tis the Season: Stockings Full of Coal, Layoffs and Lawsuits
The boys are deckin’ the halls and wreckin’ the pod with a slew of industry news. Turns out, the holidays are a great time to pass out pink slips and head to court. Feel the cheer! On this week’s show, Chad & Cheese talk about the following: DHI, Dice’s parent company, is selling off it’s albatross of a job board portfolio and going to court. Woo.io, Param.ai and IBM’s Watson keep the AI / chatbot train rollin’. Valley companies are paying models to attend holiday parties (can you say ‘tone deaf’?). Layoffs hit two well-know TA tech solutions. Boom goes the dynamite! It’s a Sunday hangover edition of the show, as Chad dials in from sunny California. Egg nog, West Coast-style, baby! Enjoy, and as always, throw buckets of money at our sponsors, guaranteed to be coal-in-your-stocking free: Ratedly, America’s Job Exchange and Sovren.

Nov 27, 2017 • 34min
Talkin’ hiQ vs. LinkedIn with Mark Weidick, CEO @ hiQ – A Nexxt Exclusive Podcast
It’s a Nexxt EXCLUSIVE The Chad and Cheese Podcast where we’re diving headlong into the hiQ versus LinkedIn court battle starring and interview with CEO of hiQ Labs, Mark Weidick. It’s also a lactose-free event – Joel Cheesman (Cheese) is out on assignment or maybe he just found a comfortable place to curl up? In this episode Mark and Chad talk: – Update on their David v. Goliath court battle – Negative industry (Global Innovation) impact if hiQ loses – Scraping, bots, how can we ID bad from good actors? – FlipDog’s name is used in phishing vain – Are we losing control? Start-ups in court? Net neutrality? – Why are other – affected – companies in the fetal position instead of fighting? – CrowdJustice – crowd funding legal battles … and last but never least Nexxt gives Mark a reason to think his family might be ducking him during the holidays. None of this would be possible without the gang over at Nexxt and in the spirit of giving – YOU can get 25% off your first Text2Hire campaign by visiting www.nexxt.com/chadandcheese25. HAPPY HOLIDAYS from The Chad and Cheese Podcast!

Nov 24, 2017 • 40min
Giving Thanks and Roasting the Recruiting Industry’s Top Turkeys
On this Thanksgiving edition of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, the boys have some mad shoutouts, especially for tweeting fans and feisty Indeed employees. Big fun. Then, like a finely balanced plate of meat and potatoes, the guys go through their Top 5 lists of things for which they’re thankful in the recruiting industry and wash it all down the exposing the biggest turkeys in employment. Yummy! Enjoy, you jive turkeys, and be sure to checkout our sponsors: America’s Job Exchange, Sovren and Ratedly. All guaranteed to not give you heartburn this holiday.

Nov 21, 2017 • 33min
FIRING SQUAD: Jeff Dolan, SVP of Growth at FlashRecruit
Jeff Dolan walks in, sits down, and takes his chances by pitching FlashRecruit to The Chad and Cheese Podcast with the possibility of facing disgrace and the Firing Squad.What is FIRING SQUAD?Firing Squad is a raw podcast featuring two grizzled industry veterans who want to showcase recruitment industry startup companies. Their technology, products, and solutions either save them and win massive applause or just #fail and face the FIRING SQUAD.On this episode:We know that email engagement sucks and the response rate is horrible, which is why companies like FlashRecruit exist. FlashRecruit's mission is to "Break down the communication barriers to start the conversation between recruiters and the job seekers looking for their dream job." Can FlashRecruit pull it off or are they in store for a visit from the FIRING SQUAD?You'll have to listen to find out.

Nov 17, 2017 • 51min
Google Sticks It To Indeed (Again) and Anonymity is Under Fire at Glassdoor (Again)
It’s the holiday season, but the recruitment news rages on. The boys cover a variety of topics this week, including: Google for Jobs unveils four new features, and one is particularly brutal for Indeed. Glassdoor goes to court and is ordered to reveal the identities of some of its users (their TOS told you it could happen!). Popular native app Blind is coming to the Web, and here’s why it matters. Two new startups land on the scene and promise more AI matching goodness. Legit or more smoke and mirrors? All that and more from your two favorite industry knuckleheads. Enjoy responsibly. As always, give our sponsors some love. America’s Job Exchange, Sovren and Ratedly rule like no others have ever ruled before.

Nov 10, 2017 • 39min
Talkin’ Vet Recruiting, LinkedIn’s Leapfrogging, Entelo’s Heavy Hitting & ipply’s Shuttering
The boys recorded this week’s show on Veteran’s Day in the U.S., so vet recruiting is top-of-mind. Considering Chad is an Army Vet, how could it not? CareerBuilder is partnering with this vet site, and rumors that Monster is making changes to Military.com abound. On to other matters, LinkedIn continues to kickass and take names with a new integration with Microsoft Word. The move should have job sites, and even Google shaking in their New Balances. The company is also making Glassdoor a little nervous with a recent move. Lastly, tons of news items, so the guys go a little rapid fire to cover stories from Sourceress, Entelo and Jobs2Careers’ ipply. There’s also new research on what kind of videos you should be making to recruit. They end with a PSA that you shouldn’t do this to the president. As always, show our sponsors a little love. That’s an order! Sovren, America’s Job Exchange and Ratedly make it all happen.

Nov 8, 2017 • 39min
‘Edu-taining’ Interview with Susan Vitale, CMO at iCIMS – A Nexxt Exclusive Podcast
In this Nexxt exclusive, in partnership with TAtech, Chad and Cheese bring industry veteran Susan Vitale, CMO at iCIMS, on to discuss iCIMS’ recent job seeker survey, and any other timely topic they want. Included is a deep dive into employment branding issues. In their recent report, iCIMS discovered that Glassdoor reviews have a tremendous impact on recruitment. For instance, nearly half of Millennials surveyed said they’ve turned down a job offer because of poor reviews. Other findings are discussed too. Also highlighted in the survey is the importance of mobile and the impact social media and peer referrals have on the modern job seeker. The podcast also goes into questions of ATS platforms and whether it’s better to build a recruitment technology yourself or provide a platform similar to the iPhone’s AppStore where third party vendors can provide services. It’s a great interview, providing entertainment and education in equal parts. Would you expect anything different from Chad & Cheese? I mean, c’mon now. This podcast is sponsored exclusively by Nexxt. Checkout their product Text2Hire, and access an exclusive Chad & Cheese discount by clicking here.

Nov 1, 2017 • 28min
Can We Just Stop with the ‘Tinder for Jobs’ and the Video Resumes Already, Please?
Halloween’s hangover has the boys ranting about some trends that just won’t die: ‘Tinder for Jobs’ and video resumes. Startups Workey and O’Hire go keep going back to the future and treading where past companies have failed, and it’s got the boys fired up. Aside from the lunacy of dating apps as employment apps and 2-minute-long video resumes, more money keeps funneling into talent acquisition technology, as another companies gets more funding. Oh, then robots keep scaring the hell out of us, especially when they give interviews with the press and given citizenship in Saudi Arabia. Have fun while your earthly dominance lasts, humans. Go throw money at our sponsors. They rule! America’s Job Exchange, Sovren and Ratedly are the bee’s knees, yo!


