

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Oct 2, 2018 • 3min
TextRecruit, Upwork and Amazon, Oh My!
Hey kids, it’s The Shred for October 2, 2018, brought to you by Judge.com. Whether you’re moving your systems to the cloud, building out a team for your next project, finding healthcare talent for your organization, filling that mission critical direct hire to lead your team, or training your employees on the latest technology, Judge.com can deliver to ensure your organization’s long-term growth. To the news: Popular text recruiting platform and iCIMS property TextRecruit has introduced Automated Scheduling. Employers can integrate their Microsoft or Google Calendar and trigger a scheduling event from their TextRecruit dashboard. Users can also use Ari, the company’s AI technology to schedule events as well. With companies like Hire by Google and startup GoodTime getting into the automated scheduling game, the time seems right for a messaging company to throw its hat in the ring too. In other news, popular freelance marketplace Upwork is going public this week. The opening price is estimated to be between $12 – $14, which is an increase from $10 – $12 yesterday. Analysts expect the stock to settle in around $20 per share. Lastly, Amazon has raised the minimum wage for its workers to $15-per-hour. Vermont senator Bernie Sanders applauded the move, congratulating Amazon founder Jeff Bezos “for doing exactly the right thing.” Be sure to tune into the weekly show for deeper opinion on news you hear on The Shred. Once again, thanks to our sponsor Judge.com. With over 48 years of experience and success, Judge is an industry leader in technology, talent and learning solutions. Judge is a family-owned business which has grown globally with offices in the United States, Canada, India and China. Learn more at j-u-d-g-e-dot-com. Cheesman out.

Oct 1, 2018 • 43min
Slack is Literally Killing Email
Still licking a few wounds from a week of traveling, the boys chugged enough Pedialyte to sit down for a recap of TAtech and SourceCon, as well as catch up on some news from Pandora and Slack. Big shoutout for those who voted us Best Podcast / Blog … it paid off. Enjoy and visit our sponsors, Sovren and JobAdX.

Sep 27, 2018 • 5min
TAtech NOLA Post-Game Show
The Shred is brought to you by The Judge Group… Judge has over 50 years of experience and success in recruiting all kinds of talent – say you need fill an IT position or maybe even a Healthcare position. Then go to Judge.com – they have the talent you need — and tell them Chad & Cheese sent you. On to the News! The Chad and Cheese – HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast is now The Award Winning Chad & Cheese after bringing home a Recruiting Service Innovation Award – better known as ReSI – for Innovators of the Year in Blogging and Podcasting — Here are the most “Most Innovative” TAtech category winners Cloud-based Solution LinkedIn Mobile Solution TextRecruit Recruitment Advertising Solution Facebook Marketplace Enterprise Solution & AI/ML both went to… Crowded Refresh SMB Solution & Small Employment site both went to… Resume-Library Large Employment Site Google for Jobs Employment site partner Phenom People ATS iCIMS Mid-Sized Employment site Neuvoo Recruitment Ad Agency Symphony Talent Big Data Solution Linkedin Talent Insights Social Media Solution Facebook Jobs Marketplace Business Leader Sean Quigley down under — I personally believe Mona was robbed If you feel like you’re more innovative – why the hell aren’t you attending TAtech conferences? Next New Topic… Here at Chad & Cheese Global HQ we know you’re looking for more opportunity in 2019 to better understand AI, Machine Learning, Recruitment Marketing, Programmatic ad buying and Hell maybe even take a little jaunt to Europe. That’s why today The Chad & Cheese is unveiling TAtech’s 2019 conference schedule… The TAtech Leadership Summit on AI & Machine Learning in Talent Acquisition Tempe, AZ March 5-6, 2019 The TAtech Leadership Summit on Recruitment Marketing Chicago, IL April 18-19 TAtechEurope Lisbon, Portugal May 9-10 The TAtech Leadership Summit on Programmatic Ad Buying Boston, MA June 4-5 TAtechNorthAmerica Austin, TX September 24-26 If you’re not familiar with TAtech – think HR Tech, but more intimate with time to collaborate and genuinely engage with vendor CEOs, Founders and the people who actually shape Talent Acquisition technology and get shit done. Check ’em out at TAtech.org. Big thanks to Judge for supporting The Shred – The Judge Group over 50 years of experience and 5M professionals strong! If you have a need they have the right match whether it is contract, contract-to-hire, or direct placement. Check ’em out at Judge.com – that’s J-U-D-G-E – DOT COM (nailed it!) or email them at chadcheese@judge.com SOWASH OUT!

Sep 21, 2018 • 39min
ZipRecruiter is Droppin’ Mad Stacks
Hot off HR Tech in Vegas and before they head to New Orleans for TA Tech, the boys are covering the industry as only they can. CareerBuilder hopes you’ll finally fall in love with augmented reality (you won’t), ZipRecruiter just sponsored the world’s most popular podcast and, is that Google in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me? It’s on! And be sure to visit sponsors Sovren and JobAdX. They complete us.

Sep 20, 2018 • 3min
Is That Google In Your Pocket? (Or Just Happy To See Me?)
It’s The Shred – a mini-Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking News and Opinion — This is Chad Sowash The Shred is brought to you by The Judge Group… Judge has over 50 years of experience and success in recruiting all kinds of talent – say you need IT or maybe even Healthcare talent. Well it sounds like you need to visit Judge.com and tell them Chad & Cheese sent you. On to the NEWS You’ve heard Google is getting into the recruiting game right? Well… The Hire by Google app has been released for EARLY ACCESS! That’s right kids — Hire will literally be in your pocket very shortly. Review candidates, provide feedback, schedule interviews, collaborate with hiring team members and more. So all of those applicant tracking systems out there with old or weak ass apps in the app store – your day just got worse – it’s time to up your game. For those of you with no app – in’s 2018 WTF? But wait there’s more… Today Google announced the launch of Work Insights, WTH is that? Well it’s a new tool that gives businesses a better view into how their employees use the company’s G Suite productivity tools and how teams collaborate using those tools. Really, it’s Google analytics for your work… or lack of work… Wait a minute, this is big brother disguised in sexy UI… Yup, you’d better work on your collaboration and TPS report cover sheet skills ASAP. Oh shit, isn’t Hire by Google a part of G Suite? That’s right recruiters it is… It certainly is… So get to work, collaborate and listen… Big thanks to Judge for supporting The Shred – The Judge Group over 50 years of experience and 5M professionals strong! If you have a need they have the right match whether it is contract, contract-to-hire, or direct placement. Check ’em out at Judge.com – that’s J-U-D-G-E – DOT COM or email them at chadcheese@judge.com SOWASH OUT!

Sep 17, 2018 • 37min
HR Tech Conference Post-Game Show
Still a tad hungover from the HR Technology Conference in Vegas last week, the boys do a little post-game analysis. Enjoy, and visit our sponsors: Sovren and JobAdX.

Sep 12, 2018 • 3min
CareerBuilder Revamps Mobile App
Hey kids, it’s The Shred for September 12, 2018, brought to you by Judge.com. Whether you’re moving your systems to the cloud, building out a team for your next project, finding healthcare talent for your organization, filling that mission critical direct hire to lead your team, or training your employees on the latest technology, Judge.com can deliver to ensure your organization’s long-term growth. To the news: CareerBuilder has revamped its mobile app for devices like the iPhone and iPad – not yet, Android users, sorry. The new app makes a big bet on augmented reality. This is where you use your phone’s camera, point it down a busy street and see virtual Help Wanted signs on the buildings you see. From there you can apply online. In a release, the company called this a “major industry disruption,” but augmented reality has yet to take hold. Aside from Pokemon Go, AR as it’s called has been kind of a dud. Some listeners will remember an app called Job Compass that used a lot of this kind of tech, but it never really caught on. Maybe this time it’s different for CareerBuilder. Or, maybe it’s not. In the month’s ahead, CareerBuilder says it will be adding gamification elements to the mobile app, enabling users to earn points and badges for usage. Be sure to tune into the weekly show for deeper opinion on news you hear on The Shred. Once again, thanks to our sponsor Judge.com. With over 48 years of experience and success, Judge is an industry leader in technology, talent and learning solutions. Judge is a family-owned business which has grown globally with offices in the United States, Canada, India and China. Learn more at j-u-d-g-e-dot-com. Cheesman out.

Sep 6, 2018 • 39min
CareerBuilder Dumps CEO
It was just a matter of time. After a 14-year run, Matt Ferguson is no longer CEO of CareerBuilder. The boys share the details and there opinion about what’s next. Also, Upwork files IPO, surveys galore leading up the HR Tech and tattoos. Enjoy, and visit our sponsors America’s Job Exchange, Sovren and JobAdX.

Sep 5, 2018 • 40min
Talkin’ Diversity with Torin Ellis
The boys have a conversation on diversity with bad-ass MF Torin Ellis. Buckle-up for this Nexxt exclusive.

Sep 4, 2018 • 4min
Matt Ferguson OUT as CareerBuilder CEO
Hey kids, it’s The Shred for September 4, 2018, brought to you by Judge.com. Whether you’re moving your systems to the cloud, building out a team for your next project, finding healthcare talent for your organization, filling that mission critical direct hire to lead your team, or training your employees on the latest technology, Judge.com can deliver to ensure your organization’s long-term growth. To the news: Well, it finally happened. After being acquired a little over a year ago by Apollo, CareerBuilder has a new CEO today. After a 14 year reign, Matt Ferguson is being replaced by Irina Novoselsky, who was previously the company’s president and COO. Ferguson is now executive chairman. The new CEO has a history with Apollo, having served with one of their portfolio companies. In an email to employees, Ferguson made a lengthy statement, but the highlight for me is as follows: “It has been one of the greatest honors of my life to work with everyone who’s been part of our CareerBuilder team. I am so proud of the things we’ve accomplished together – far too many to recount in one email. Our work has changed an industry. Today, we are poised to do it again. You have the grit, passion and talent that a transformation like this needs – that the company needs.” Poised to do it again? Go look at the reviews on Glassdoor, Indeed and others. Look at how many execs and employees are gone. The culture is shot. You’re in a game that now includes Microsoft, Google and Facebook. The only thing I see that Careerbiulder is poised to do is sell off this company to the highest bidder. Ferguson leaving is textbook stuff for private equity firms who cut companies to the bone in the name of profits, not embrace innovation. Time will tell, but just as I predicted Ferguson’s exit months ago, I’ll go ahead and predict CareerBuilder will have a new owner a year from now. Be sure to tune into the weekly show for deeper opinion on news you hear on The Shred. Once again, thanks to our sponsor Judge.com. With over 48 years of experience and success, Judge is an industry leader in technology, talent and learning solutions. Judge is a family-owned business which has grown globally with offices in the United States, Canada, India and China. Learn more at j-u-d-g-e-dot-com. Cheesman out.


