The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Live from New York, the boys recorded the weekly show at HireConf, HiringSolved’s conference. In addition to covering news from Monster, Dice, Glassdoor and Under Armour, there’s a riveting interview with HiringSolved co-founder and CEO Shon Burton. Enjoy, and visit sponsors Sovren, JobAdX and Canvas.

At the iCIMS analyst day last month, the boys sat down with Erik Kostelnik, founder and CEO at TextRecruit, a recent acquisition by iCIMS. If you’ve never heard Erik, you’re in for a treat. We talk CareerBuilder, Dice, chatbots, competing with Slack and much more. Michael Wilczak, SVP, Strategy & Corporate Development at iCIMS also joined in. Enjoy this Nexxt exclusive.

It’s The Shred for November 6, 2018, brought to you by Judge.com. Guys, blockchain is all the rage right now. And if you’re like most of us, the whole thing is confusing, right? Don’t worry. Chad and I have been working with Judge to give you the foremost insight into what blockchain is and what it means to recruiting. And we’ve made it easy for you. Just go to bitly.com/judgeblockchain to download this free resource. That’s bitly.com/judgeblockchain. Or you can hit up chadcheese.com today. Let’s go to the news: Turns out, active candidates just aren’t enough these days. Not with the unemployment rate under 4 percent anyway. That’s probably why Palo Alto startup Uncommon has bolted on automated sourcing to its original programmatic job advertising solution. Users will start seeing an Active button on their dashboard – these are the candidates that come in via advertising – and a Passive button, which is where automatically sourced candidates will be highlighted. These candidates – 150 million resumes strong – have been obtained by a third party vendor that pulls resumes from a variety of job boards and resume depositories. Uncommon CEO Teg Grenager said, “Adoption of sourcing automation tools like Uncommon over the next few years will give recruiters a breakthrough in productivity, while at the same time allowing them to focus on the human connection with the interested and qualified candidates.” Pricing runs between $100/mo. And $400/mo. depending on usage. The company says its new tool can cut sourcing time by 75 percent. Learn more at uncommon.co … and, full disclosure, Uncommon is a sponsor of this very podcast. Be sure to tune into the weekly show for deeper opinion on news you hear on The Shred. Once again, thanks to our sponsor Judge.com. Wondering how blockchain impacts recruitment, head on over to bitly.com/judgeblockchain (no upper case letters, one word) or visit ChadCheese.com and click the Judge logo. Cheesman out.

We were totally unprepared for this chatbot startup. Mostly, because of the mere fact that they’re so far off the radar. They sound more like a Marvel villain. Boy, we did not see the Firing Squad that unfolded coming. How’d it go? Gotta listen to this Talroo exclusive.

Straight off Halloween’s sugar high, the boys are in rare form this week, talkin’ Handshake’s latest round of investment, protests at Google, the sale of eHarmony, Facebook’s rumored Workplace.com … and we absolutely kill Ladders latest offering. Enjoy, and throw money at sponsors Sovren, Canvas and JobAdX.

When you want to talk recruitment tech you need to call upon one of the very few BAD ASS RPO tech overloads around the globe. So that’s exactly what Chad & Cheese did… Adam Godson is High Commander of Tech Solutions at Cielo – that’s what I call him – where they have 150,000 hires per year in 27 applicant tracking systems and that doesn’t even touch the cool ass tech outside of the ATS. Don’t miss the insights and tomfoolery… Sponsored by Uncommon.co  – when you or your clients need ONLY QUALIFIED CANDIDATES call the crew at Uncommon.

iCims pushes toward a true end-to-end Talent Acquisition platform. Chad – Welcome to another installment of Chad & Cheese iCIMS iNFLUENCE 2018 Series. In mid-Oct Joel and I flew to NJ and landed at iCIMS HQ for the iCIMS iNFLUENCE event. During the event Colin Day, iCIMS CEO and Chairman of the Board along with other iCIMS leaders shared their common vision for more than just iCIMS. For the industry and how iCIMS will lead in reinventing it. This episode is all about getting rid of the middlemen starting with job distribution…. Chad – Talent Acquisition professionals are busy, which is why TA can’t even spell programmatic at this point let alone tell you why they would use it. But what if Programmatic was built inside the ATS and became a natural part of the recruiting flow? What if the ATS partnered with Google to facilitate this process? The future is now because it’s already happening with some of the smaller ATS providers, but what about Enterprise platforms like iCIMS? Colin – We’ve got a third initiative going which is obviously they (Google) have announced the dynamic search ads, this is where the money is made. Um, so if you’re not happy with the organic traffic coming through Google you can basically buy inorganic traffic. And so we’re doing a little bit of this ourselves, we’re looking at the industry, we’re taking a look at everything going on in programmatic. I see Matt shaking the head, this is the way the industry is going. We very well may buy our way into this market, umm, rather than build there’s alot going on. But at the end of the day we do believe that customers should be able to do all their job advertising right out of our platform. Chad – Programmatic straight from the ATS sounds natural right? But what about when the candidate hits the ATS? I mean seroiusly, what is the average ejection rate of a job seeker who starts the application process? Horror stories about Candidate Experience are frequent between many Employer Brand and Talent Acquisition teams…. But wait… Colin – Another initiative we have going on because it’s not just about how quickly you get the jobs to Google and how rich is the job data you get to Google, but Google looks at the landing zone. They look at “Where am I going to send this candidate? and what is that?” and we have decided and we’re invested and we’re building it out as we speak, and we’ll probably talk about it alot while you’re here. That we’re going to meeting Google half way and we are building the next generation of candidate portal, candidate engagement management site. So just like they (Google) want to get rid of the middlemen of the job boards, there’s middlemen on the career site in our equation. So the Jibe’s, the Phenom’s, ecetera, The Muse’s. I think our viewpoint is we need to make sure we can do everything they can do. Chad – Is it time to get rid of the middle men and focus on a fluid candidate experience? Candidate engagement platforms were born out of the need to delight – GOD I hate that word – to impress, educate and grab candidate data before they ejected out of the application process in the clunky ATS. So isn’t it just natural the ATS would take over this process? Maybe, make it more fluid and not require a candidate apply twice? Sounds good right? But is it really just that easy? Well Colin and the iCIMS crew says we’re gonna find out. Chad – You can find more episode in the iCIMS iNFLUENCE 2018 Series at chadcheese.com… or better yet, never miss an episode of HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast by subscribing with iTunes, Google Podcasts, Spotifiy or where ever you get your podcasts.

It’s the Halloween edition of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, which means the boys are counting down everything in recruitment that scared the hell out of them. Hint: The bots are coming! Also, Indeed is crushing it, ZipRecruiter is mobilizing it, and Uber is staffing it. Some call an exorcist, because heads will spin! And visit our sponsors, nuthin’ but treats, baby: Sovren, Canvas and JobAdX.

Hey ghouls and goblins, it’s The Shred for October 24, 2018, brought to you by Judge.com. Guys, blockchain is all the rage right now. And if you’re like most of us, the whole thing is confusing, right? Don’t worry. Chad and I have been working with Judge to give you the foremost insight into what blockchain is and what it means to recruiting. And we’ve made it easy for you. Just go to bitly.com/judgeblockchain to download this free resource. That’s bitly.com/judgeblockchain. Or you can hit up chadcheese.com today. Let’s go to the news: ZipRecruiter launched what they’re calling Job Seeker Profiles this week. In a nutshell, Profiles aims to help millions of mobile app users find a job by simplifying the resume-building process and making it easier for them to stand out to employers. Profiles allows them to fill out a summary including their skills, certifications, desired salary and career objectives. The data can be entered manually or generated automatically from an uploaded resume. Profiles also leverages Zip’s artificial intelligent to alert job seekers of missing information and suggests ways to improve content. AI looks like the name of the game at Zip. On the heels of raising $156 million at a billion dollar valuation, the company now counts 200 engineers developing their AI, including 50 working from a new Tel Aviv-based development and research center. In case you were wondering, the 8-year-old company has nearly 1,000 employees in two states and three countries. Be sure to tune into the weekly show for deeper opinion on news you hear on The Shred. Once again, thanks to our sponsor Judge.com. Wondering how blockchain impacts recruitment, head on over to bitly.com/judgeblockchain (no upper case letters, one word) or visit ChadCheese.com and click the Judge logo. Cheesman out.

Being an industry leader isn’t easy… Constantly fighting the good fight, providing for clients and job seekers while protecting your flanks and reinventing the entire recruitment industry… That’s exactly what iCIMS leadership is doing. .   In mid-Oct Joel and I flew to NJ and landed at iCIMS HQ for the iCIMS iNFLUENCE event. During the event Colin Day, iCIMS CEO and Chairman of the Board along with other iCIMS leaders shared their common vision for more than just iCIMS. For the industry and how iCIMS will lead in reinventing it.   This is just one episode in the iCIMS iNFLUENCE 2018 Series.   PODCAST TRANSCRIPTION sponsored by: Disability Solutions is your sourcing and recruiting partner for people with disabilities. This episode starts with Colin talking about what Google wants.. and what he believes is of utmost importance…   Chad – So Colin what does Google want?   Colin – They (Google) want no middlemen and they want single click apply. And for me that’s music to my ears, that’s absolute music to my ears. Now people will say Colin you’re stupid they came out with an ATS too, they’re a competitor of yours.   Colin – Their ATS is for the G-Suite, for the SMB. We would be really nervous if we were an SMB vendor. I don’t see Google building an enterprise quality Talent Acquisition platform over the next 5-10 years. It’s too complicated, they haven’t proven they can do it so I say let them have small companies out of the G-Suite I will take that any day for them to get Google for Jobs out.   Colin – Because that’s the most important thing here.   Chad – Then Colin answers my question about slowing down job boards scraping and pounding iCIMS career sites, most importantly becoming the fast lane of job content for Google… Listen up..   Chad – You’re talking about slowing down other lanes. Right. So you want a fast lane to Google but you want to slow down the other lanes.  What do you mean buy “slowing down the other lanes”? Are you going to hold jobs?   Colin – I don’t think we’re going to hold them unfairly , we’re just not going to let them do unnatural… I mean right now they… When we look at our portal traffic and what slows down portals or whatever, well if Indeed is scraping you every 5 minutes, it slows you down. So I think we’re just going to look at SLAs and say “Guys weren’t not going to try and be unfair.”   Chad – Why does Colin believe this to be important? Well, Google over the years (before Google for Jobs) had crowned Indeed the winner of the job site wars and one of the reasons Indeed was crowned revoled around getting job content to Google faster than any other platform, including the ATS. Well, that is going to stop when it comes to iCIMS and their client’s jobs. iCIMS will become the fastest lane in delivering jobs, while all others will be taken down a notch… or two…   You can find more episode in the iCIMS iNFLUENCE 2018 Series at chadcheese.com… or better yet, never miss an episode of HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast by subscribing using iTunes, Google Podcasts, Spotifiy or where ever you get your podcasts.