

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Jul 23, 2019 • 35min
Recruiter Marketplace: Scout w/ CEO Ken Lazarus
One of the biggest stories from 2018 was recruiting software solution Scout getting $100 million in investment. The company is quietly becoming a force, so the boys decided to sit down with CEO Ken Lazarus to find out what’s going on. Enjoy this Uncommon exclusive.

Jul 23, 2019 • 3min
What Can Two White Dudes Do About Diversity?
Part of our interview with Torin Ellis. Full video interview coming soon. Audio Only. For the full video go to the YouTube channel.

Jul 19, 2019 • 45min
‘Job Board Summer Camp’ Sucks
It’s been a week since tearin’ shit up in London, and the boys are psyched to get back to the weekly round-up show. And the hits just keep on rollin’. This week, programmatic remains hot, Amazon says ‘there’s nothing to see here’ in light of strike / no strike news, and summer camps in London and Barcelona have taken a turn for the worst. Sovren, Canvas and JobAdx deserve you undivided attention.

Jul 18, 2019 • 33min
Firing Squad: StaffUpApp
Do staffing firms need a native app for iPhones and Android devices? This startup certainly thinks so, but do the boys agree? Let’s just say it’s a house divided. Ready. Aim. Listen. And enjoy this Talroo exclusive.

Jul 17, 2019 • 2min
The Chad & Cheese Recfest 2019 ‘Hype Video’
Before going on stage at Recfest 2019, this happened. ‘Murica! Special thanks to Talent Nexus for creating.

Jul 16, 2019 • 4min
TMP Acquires Perengo
It’s The Shred – a mini-Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking
News — This is Chad Sowash
On to the NEWS for July 16st 2019..
THE ARMS RACE IS RED HOT
We were talking about texting and chatbots – Now it’s a
word most TA professionals can’t even spell… Programmatic…
That’s right StepStone starts their chess moves by taking
AppCast — hands down the recruitment industries programmatic leader — App cast
off the board, then Indeed strikes

Jul 16, 2019 • 47min
Indeed.com Strikes Back
When Stepstone acquired Appcast, the boys wondered why Indeed failed to snatch-up programmatic’s most well-known and successful companies. Maybe Indeed wasn’t even interested. Turns out, they were, as proven by the recent announcement that they acquired second-rate competitor, ClickIQ. In this episode, the guys bring in some special guests to get to the bottom of things, as well as cover a broad range of topics, including Facebook’s issues, Recfest roundup, Hirevue’s impending sale.

Jul 9, 2019 • 22min
Gerry Tales III (Beyond Thunderdome)
Gerry Tales with industry icon Gerry Crispin was off-the-chain, and this is Part III of our interview all-things-recruiting. Enjoy, get smarter and show exclusive sponsor Nexxt some love.

Jul 8, 2019 • 37min
We Love the Smell of Acquisitions in the Morning
The week of July 4th is usually pretty slow, but there were plenty of fireworks this year. Aside from a big acquisition, Facebook, Walmart and Hallmark are in the news, as well as a segment on rainbow-colored flags and the companies that say they support them, but in reality, not-so-much. Try not to choke on all the hot dogs, PBR and freedom. And show our sponsors some Yankee Doodle appreciation. Sovren, Canvas and JobAdx are our Red, White and Blue.

Jul 3, 2019 • 16min
Recfest 2019: British / U.S. Relations are Headed for a New Low
With Recfest 2019 a little over a week away in London, what better way for Chad & Cheese to pregame than to get the show’s masterminds, Jamie Leonard and Joe Slavin? The boys breakdown the show and give listeners a sneak-peek into the havoc that is about to invade English shores.


