

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Aug 26, 2019 • 4min
Entelo Acquires ConveyIQ
You heard the rumors here first, but it’s official now. Here are the details. The Shred is sponsored by Dora by HappyRecruiter.com.

Aug 23, 2019 • 49min
Amazon’s Twitter Trolls Strike Again
Authenticity is a tough thing to come by these days, but Amazon takes things to a whole other level, and the boys hash out what’s wrong with the employers branding strategies. Oy! Plus, Stepstone wants to have its cake and eat it too, college degrees ain’t all that, Indeed goes offline with its latest product and much, much more. Enjoy and give sponsors Sovren, JobAdx and Canvas lots o’ love.

Aug 22, 2019 • 32min
Firing Squad: SBOJ
There’s already too many staffing solutions in the UK, right? Nay! says this month’s Firing Squad guest, SBOJ (it’s jobs backwards, get it?). Let’s just see how right this start-up really is on this Talroo exclusive.

Aug 21, 2019 • 3min
Indeed’s Getting Into The Job Fair Business
The Shred, sponsored by Happy Recruiter.

Aug 20, 2019 • 29min
Sex, Lies and … Clusterpuck?
The boys don’t do very many interviews with authors – ya’ know, smart people who write books ‘n’ stuff – but that’s starting to change with Operation Clusterpuck: A B.S. Incorporated Novel. Co-authors Jennifer Rock and Michael Voss took some time to talk about their latest book, based on their experience in corporate America at Best Buy. Enjoy what one Amazon reviewer said, “Reading this book is like getting a master’s degree in corporate communications, without all the expense and pain of getting a master’s degreed.” A Nexxt exclusive.

Aug 16, 2019 • 44min
Niches Get Stitches
Think Google’s going to have an easy time taking over the world of employment? “Well, think again,” says Europe, as 23 job sites file a lawsuit against the search engine giant. What else, LinkedIn is in the news, and niche job boards may be making a comeback, assuming they can turn back the marketplace assault on all-things-employment … even healthcare. Enjoy and give our sponsors Sovren, JobAdx and Canvas some love. It all happens because of them.

Aug 15, 2019 • 34min
The Dark Side of A.I.
Artificial intelligence is running amok! Someone has to police this out-of-control state of technology. Enter Miranda Bogen, a Senior Policy Analyst who focuses on the social and policy implications of machine learning and artificial intelligence, and the effect of technology platforms on civil and human rights. Plus, she really classes up the joint. Enjoy this Talroo exclusive.

Aug 13, 2019 • 5min
Google for Jobs Antitrust or Bust?
It’s The Shred – a mini-Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking News — This is Chad Sowash The Shred is brought to you by HappyRecruiter.com, check out their chatbot Dora. Dora is the recruiter’s personal robot assistant that will help them hire more candidates, faster and that’s how your company becomes more cost-efficient. Check Dora out at HappyRecruiter.com On to the NEWS.. Google for Jobs! The EU Cries Antitrust, while the US asks for more! More regulatory pressure for Google from Europe after 23 online job sites urged EU antitrust regulators to act against Google for allegedly using its market power to favor Google for Jobs.” “Job sites say they have lost market share since Google launched its Google for Jobs service in Europe last year.” – “The criticism comes from companies, which include British site BestJobsOnline to German peers Intermedia and Jobindex” Berlin-based StepStone GmbH, which operates 30 job websites globally has already lodged a formal complaint. So basically, Stepstone and a bunch of other EU job boards are trying to push a new regulatory framework to stamp out Google for Jobs. Other job technology firms say Google has driven innovation and competition. “Nick Zakrasek, senior product manager for Google search, said the company welcomed the industry feedback on jobs search. Google said its offering addresses previous antitrust complaints by allowing rival search services to participate and includes a feature in Europe designed to give rivals prominence. By improving the search experience for jobs, we’re able to deliver more traffic to sites across the web and support a healthy job search ecosystem.” Case in point… Monster.com had lost users over the years because their user experience had sucked and this also meant low placement in regular Google search results, Monster’s CEO Scott Gutz said. “The new tool (Google for Jobs) gave Monster a path back to the top. There’s been a leveling of the playing field” Another US-based organization, iCIMS which operates job websites for about 4,000 employers, said Google’s tool is the third largest referrer of visitors to clients’ pages… Susan Vitale, CMO for iCIMS says “What we’re already seeing with Google’s entrance is better matching candidates to jobs…” Aha! There it is kids. iCIMS a top Applicant Tracking System is seeing great returns from Google as well. And if all ATS companies turn to Google for Jobs to index jobs and provide – a possible – lion’s of the traffic, in the future, where will that leave job boards? Okay, back to the EU… The question here is why are EU job sites taking issue with Google for Jobs? Are these jobsites using Google’s mark-up to get their jobs into the search index and in front of job seekers? We’ve seen here in the U.S. jobsites have boasted increases in their traffic from Google after having their jobs marked-up and sucked into the search index. So are EU job sites bitching to stop innovation? Are they happy with forcing job seekers in their counties through a shitty experience? Are they afraid innovation has passed them by and find themselves clinging to old and dilapidated search tech? I’m not sure exactly what the answer is… But I do know job sites across the U.S. are asking Google for more gruel. More Gruel Please sir… Big thanks to HappyRecruiter.com for supporting The Shred. Try Dora – the recruiter assistant out for 3 free projects. No Credit Card required, you can stop at any time. Dora makes Happy Recruiter, check Dora out at HappyRecruiter.com Sowash Out! SOURCES: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-google-antitrust-exclusive/exclusive-googles-jobs-search-draws-antitrust-complaints-from-rivals-idUSKCN1V30IX European online job search websites call on EU to crack down on Google

Aug 13, 2019 • 32min
Fairygodboss Co-Founder Romy Newman
Think Glassdoor has a monopoly on employee reviews? Think again. Fairygodboss is one of the hottest startups hoping to help women breakthrough the glass ceiling and inspire companies to be more transparent. In this podcast, the boys explore the current state of the business with co-founder Romy Newman, as well as reveal how employers can make themselves a more diverse and inclusive place. Enjoy this Nexxt exclusive.

Aug 9, 2019 • 3min
No More
Joel: Hey guys, we’re not going to do a show this week. In light of the recent mass shootings and El Paso, and Dayton. Chad and I thought it would be better time served for the audience as well as ourselves, that we think about the world we live in, how we can make it better, how we can change it. This isn’t a political message but obviously, voting is sort of at the core of our country and how things get changed. And we hope that in this time that you would normally listen to our show that you


