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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Nov 25, 2019 • 5min
The Crowd Wins Over Robots
It's The Shred a mini Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking News -- This is Chad Sowash The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology -- Recruitology brings artificial intelligence - that's AI kids - to job posting and distribution for employers large and small. Post once, pay once and have your jobs automatically distributed to the right sites where you’ll get the most bang for your buck. Start posting your jobs using Recruitology today at recruitology.com/employers On to the NEWS.. It's Monday, November 25 2019. It's crowdsourced sourcing! What the actual... Okay if you'd said "crowdsourcing candidates is a thing" I would have said... Yea, not really... But apparently it's a thing? Why am I saying this? Well, he's a quote from Cielo's press release - "Cielo, has invested in Visage, a platform that will enhance the capabilities of the company's Distributed Sourcing Model by connecting recruiters and sourcers globally to deliver qualified candidates to clients faster. Cielo's Distributed Sourcing Model connects the organization's internal crowd of recruiters worldwide to form a collective network of knowledge, experience and best practices that is accessible by all of the company's recruiters. Visage's global community of sourcers and AI system give Cielo recruiters a powerful external resource to use when the need arises based on priorities like capacity, role complexity, regional requirements and speed to fill." THIS IS WHAT WE CALL SCALE KIDS... How can you scale to a need faster? Apparently it's crowdsourcing... sourcing! and with 3,500 sources in the community with more to come. That's people power baby! But wait a minute, I thought automated AI matching was supposed to be doing this work? Right? I asked Adam Godson Chief Technology & Product Innovation Officer - aka "Recruiting Tech Bad Ass" that question and he said we're not there yet especially against a people aggregator where there are more nuanced matching and a better understanding of the job which provides better end results." Cielo piloted Visage for nearly a year with 20+ clients - so I guess it works. Adam also likened this model to Uber vs. Taxi when it comes to cost-effective sourcing to meet the need in an on-demand model. How much did Cielo invest? Adam was stingy on the details, but sources say it was 7 figure deal, under 5 million... This is another really cool marketplace platform that is now powered by a recruiting machine and the types of innovation hiring companies expect to see from the outsourcing vendors. Big thanks Recruitology for supporting The Shred. Recruitology has the latest in machine learning and programmatic advertising technology to get your jobs on best of breed niche sites and on top job boards at recruitology.com/employers. Last but never least remember subscribe to The Chad and Cheese Podcast - HR's Most Dangerous -for late-breaking news, snark, knowledge droppin' and pure stupidity. SOWASH OUT!

Nov 21, 2019 • 43min
Google for Jobs is ALIVE
LIVE from sunny Arizona... Ummm wait., no that's rain-soaked Arizona for the iCIMS iNFLUENCE conference. We're talking: - Google for Jobs LIVES - Indeed goes gig - Slack takes it in the nuts - again - LinkedIn has its sights on the Supreme Court against hiQ and we do an iCIMS tech and strategy round-up. You can't beat this with a Talking Stick (get it?)... Thanks to Canvas, Sovren, and JobAdX!

Nov 20, 2019 • 4min
Indeed Goes Gig
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology

Nov 19, 2019 • 36min
Firing Squad: Applichat's Adam Chambers
Is it a chatbot? Is it a Facebook advertising platform? Is it bound for global domination? Well, let's not get carried away here, but Adam Chambers and Applichat bring its goods to the Firing Squad. To say Chad & Cheese are split on this one would be an understatement. Opinions clash on this episode for sure. Brought to you by Talroo.

Nov 14, 2019 • 39min
Hell Hath No Fury
Hell hath no fury like a bunch of salespeople screwed over by a greedy company, which is why CareerBuilder's back in court. In addition to this news, the boys cover - Bullhorn's new bullshit, - McDonald's & Olivia's catfish move - LinkedIn's hashtag fetish The upcoming holiday season obviously has Chad & Cheese feeling all warm and fuzzy. Enjoy and show Sovren, Canvas, and JobAdx - those are our sponsors - lots of love.

Nov 14, 2019 • 26min
DEATH MATCH: Seekout's Anoop Gupta
And the DEATH MATCH winner is ...
The competition for Death Match dominance was hard-fought, bloody and mind-blowing, but at the end of the day, only one company was left standing.
Enter Seekout, whose founder, Anoop Gupta, brought his A Game to Austin and took home the championship chain.
Made possible by Alexander Mann Solutions.

Nov 13, 2019 • 30min
Chatbot Queen Talks Whitespace
Quincy Valencia (aka Queen of the Chatbots) joins the menz to talk chatbots, programmatic, and industry whitespace. Whitespace? WTF is WHITESPACE?
Gotta listen to find out...
And while you're listening school yourself on hiring.nexxt.com. Text, email, programmatic+ with out friends from NEXXT

Nov 12, 2019 • 5min
OUTTAKE: Veterans Day
This segment was originally scheduled to air with last Friday's show, but we felt it was important enough all by itself.
Taking a single day for veterans just isn't enough. Take a listen and let us know what you think.

Nov 12, 2019 • 35min
Brew Review
Audio Only. You've heard it... Now see it! ThisWayGlobal CEO, Angela Hood treats Chad and Cheese to beer and industry conversation. Enjoy! For the full video go to their YouTube channel.

Nov 11, 2019 • 4min
Upwork Goes Down
Things for the freelance marketplace are getting bumpy. The Shred is sponsored by Recruitology.


