The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk

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Apr 28, 2019 • 1h

308: Alex Hutchinson - The Curiously Elastic Limits Of Human Performance

The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk Episode #308: Alex Hutchinson TEXT LEARNERS to 44222 Full shownotes can be found at www.LearningLeader.com  Leaders who sustain excellence = They show up... Willing to take a shot when they might not be successful People over-estimate short term and under-estimate long term.  Be ambitious about long term Consistency - Secret to success: "When an editor gives me an assignment, they will receive it back on time with the right words."  You have to always get it done and be known as someone who does this. To rise above a certain level, you must do more than what is expected.  "Dream big while not neglecting daily responsibility." Eliud Kipchoge - spiritual leader of self-disciplined people around the world. "Only the disciplined in life are free." Getting there earlier than his coach... "As hard as I was willing to work, he was willing to support me." -- Alex describing his great basketball coach "Discipline is a muscle.  You get better as you use it more." Model of achievement -- Work hard, support others "Sweat more than you watch other people sweat."  -- Every leader should get some sort of activity.  It's indefensible to have a healthy body and mind. "We are cognitively better when we are fit." "Pushing yourself physically reveals what you're made of mentally." How to raise your threshold of pain: It's expectation based Pain perception is the same for all... It's all about how you respond Learn to tolerate it it by going through it regularly.  Develop psychological coping system. Pain is just a signal -- Understand it's how you choose to respond Navy SEALs, Olympians did an experiment with brain scanners where oxygen was restricted: They have a 'higher level of self-monitoring' Elite athletes get better when stress hits.  Normal people get worse Take a mindfulness based course: Cultivate "non-judgmental self-awareness" When you make a pancake for your 5 year old and they don't like it, "try not to respond with frustration in the moment.  Think about how you'll feel in 30 minutes." Change in training?  "Training will be the same, but my mind will be different." The importance of self-talk -- Inner monologue -- "I've trained for this, I can do it." "When you've reached a point that you think you've hit a wall, in fact in almost every case, those limits are perceptions of effort." Handle fear with preparation -- You must show yourself you have reason to believe you can do it. Delayed gratification -- Sports is the clearest venues to see benefit of delayed gratification "Champions in November are made in July." Alain de Botton quote -- "Of many books, one feels, it could have been truly good, if the author's appetite for suffering had been greater." Advice: Read a lot of books... On topics that have nothing to do with your topic Give self space to think Give self time to be bored
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Apr 21, 2019 • 55min

307: Carly Fiorina - Why You Should Run Towards The Fire

The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk Text: LEARNERS to 44222 to be part of 'Mindful Monday' Episode #397: Carly Fiorina Leaders who sustain excellence = Unlock the potential in others Courageous High character -- "How" matters more than what Collaborate well Humble/Empathetic They see possibilities in other people... They don't judge them Optimism combined with realism -- "Seeing people do more than they thought they can is fuel for me." "You need an equal measure of optimism with realism.  You must see the current state as it is.  It's important to believe things will get better (optimism), but also be clear eyed and realistic.  Be honest.  See truth, and act on it." From secretary to CEO -- "People wouldn't look at em and say that's a leader." "Work hard and do excellent work in your current role." "What I saw were problems and we fixed problems.  I learned that solving problems is what leadership is all about." "Run towards the problems, work to solve them.  Don't fixate on getting promoted, focus your attention on doing great at your current job."  And then doors will open... Choose a path over a plan How you get things done matters more than what you get done... The manner in which you do it.  Think long term. Focus on where you can make a difference A manager versus a leader: Manager -- Works within current constraints of the role.  They do the best they can with what they have. Leader -- Changes things.  They create new ways of doing things. Leaders are made, not born.  Focus on building character and working to be excellent Carly was recruited to be the CEO of HP.  She was the first outside hire to be CEO ever.  And the first female CEO of a Fortune 50 company. She was named the Fortune magazine most powerful woman in American business for 6 years in a row "When your team is diverse, the team is stronger." Competitive nature: "I've always been focused on excellence.  But, I've never been a win at all cost person." "It's easy to make a quarter (in the business world, hit your mark for that particular quarter), but you need to get there the right way." Criticism as CEO of HP "When you try to change things, you will get criticized." "Criticism is the price of leadership." How to handle a board? "A good board considers themselves a team, not a collection of individuals."  The HP board was a set of individuals and two of them leaked sensitive information to the press.  "Eventually, after I was gone, they got fired." Debating with President Trump on stage at the Republican debates... How to be prepared? "Every woman in the world heard what he said." "You need to be prepared, but also be present.  Be able to use experience and instinct in the moment." "I didn't prepare for the comment about my appearance, but being present in the room, and having good instincts helped me respond properly." "Right now, we are confused what leadership is.  We see leaders who promote conflict, criticize, castigate others.  That is wrong." "We need to be reminded who leaders are and what they do.  Leaders lift others up, they have courage.  Everyone can choose to be a leader." The idea of privilege: "We cannot judge someone by they circumstances.  Whether they come from privilege or they are poor.  We should judge them based on their character and their contribution." "If we want to achieve more, if we want to be excellent, it requires people who are different to work together towards a common goal."  Shane Show's Dream Teams model for building teams. Use the "Get To Know You Document" Why joining The Learning Leader Circle is a good idea
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Apr 14, 2019 • 1h 10min

306: Brian Koppelman - Follow Your Curiosity And Obsessions With Rigor

The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk Episode #306: Brian Koppelman - Follow Your Curiosity And Obsessions With Rigor Full show notes can be found at www.LearningLeader.com Sustaining excellence: Ability to focus on the work Preparedness Ability to collaborate "Being responsible enough to show up on time is surprisingly effective and important" "People that follow their curiosity, obsessions, and passions" -- They truly love what they're doing and work with incredible rigor.  If you love what you're doing, it doesn't feel like a job.  It's work that's enriching you at the same time. "What we're really trying to do as leaders is get people to perform at their highest level and to do it together, because what we do is highly collaborative."  "I was the kind of person that would read a book and if I liked it, I would stay up all night reading it.  And I would learn the words from that book.  I would look them up.  I loved the way words sounded and I loved the idea of communicating with great efficiency and humor." "Where this passion really landed for me, it made sense to do this work.  Working with great rigor is a lot easier when you're borderline obsessed with something and when you're curious." "Curiosity keeps you diving deeper." "I was a frustrated and blocked writer and I was starting to feel that I had made mistakes.  But those two hours every morning... Writing. Made me feel alive." "And he (my boss) said to me, 'Look, you know you're a writer and that's what you want to do.'" "Dude.  You do have a half hour a day."  You have to make time to do the work. "We finished the screenplay.  We sent it out and it got rejected by every single agency in Hollywood.  I'm not exaggerating." "I  wrote down what every person said... And then it sold the next week, and every agency called us back trying to sign us.  Nothing was different on the page.  I read them all back what they had said and they would all lie back to me.  I had them written down on a big yellow legal pad.  I read them out loud on a speaker phone.  These guys all lied back to us. Nobody just said, 'well I guess I was wrong,' but then they all wanted to sign us.  It taught me a great lesson about gatekeepers in the world.  They don't always know." "It means don't blindly accept negative feedback from gatekeepers." Feedback -- "We have friends/peers in place to give feedback to each other."  John Hamburg (Meet The Fockers; I Love You, Man; Along Came Polly). "You want feedback, you need feedback. But you don't want feedback from that jealous old friend who you know secretly doesn't want you to be successful." "I don't have people in my life who don't want the best for me.  We root for each other... Hard." Comfort in your own skin: "It's a lifetime pursuit.  It's so hard." "The battle is to accept who you are while not giving up on improving yourself.  To continue to try to become the perfected version of you which you can never be.  And to accept your own frailties and faults." "One simple place this comes from is to avoid lying.  My wife and I don't lie to each other.  We've never lied to each other. When you have that to start, it helps with the rest because you're not fronting." "I do morning pages every day, I meditate, I take long walks and think." "When you do all of those things and you live with intention, you start to become more comfortable with who you are." "But each time you stretch and grow and you're rewarded, it encourages you to stretch and grow." "Never Fake The Funk" -- "It's about pretending.  It's about lying to yourself.  Don't pretend, don't lie to yourself.  It's really easy to get swept along by other peoples conception of who you are. And by other people's ideas of what success is.  Defining success for yourself is crucial." "Any interaction I have, I view as an opportunity for growth. For me and the other person." Feedback is fuel... Hearing that you've helped someone is the fuel that drives this machine Having successful parents and the expectations that come from that... "My dad was very good at showing me what it took to be successful." "For some reason, my dad would always point out, 'there's nothing worse than the son of a rich kid.'" "I never wanted to be looked at as just the son of somebody and just skate.  I wanted my parents and sisters to be proud of me.  I wanted my kids to be proud of me." "I learned at a young age how to talk to powerful people.  To find a way to make them laugh, to not be intimidated by them.  Because I grew up around those people, I knew exactly what they're like.  That's a gigantic advantage that I had because my father took me to meetings.  I watched people sell to him, and I watched him sell to others, so I learned what worked." "My dad was a workaholic, but he really cared about us.  He never missed a ballgame.  He would go to New York City, work a full day, come home to Long Island, watch me play a decent third base, and then drive back to the city for a meeting.  I never wondered 'Is my Dad going to show up for the game, my dad always showed up for the game." "I would never eat dinner until my dad got home.  If he was going to be home at 9:00, I would wait up, my dad would come home and we would talk about his day and about business.  And just hearing the stories enabled me now to be able to understand aspects of business." "Whenever my son asked me to play catch, I would say yes." "I always walked my daughter to school.  Those little things, kids knowing that, it gives you a kind of closeness. It's having the connection..." "You don't have to start over, you're in the flow.  You always have this time." Tell your kids, "You did well because you worked hard."  Don't say, "You did well because you're smart."  Compliment the work ethic. Writing Billions on spec... You write it for free, you don't have a deal in place. "We wrote it for us." Showrunner = Responsible for everything you see on the television show.  Writing it, overseeing shooting of it, the editing, the design, all of it.  Leading 150 people on the show. How to make hiring decisions? "No assholes" "We really check references" The work has to be excellent "We hire keys to run departments and trust the keys to hire their departments.  Hiring the keys is a lot of time and effort, a lot of meetings." "I want to know that they're really going to kill for it.  I want to know that they're a good person.  That they'll get along with everyone.  We're all there lifting everyone else up.  So you need to know that everyone is there for the same reason.  'I love this show and I want it to be great.'" How they hired Damian Lewis -- "We had three long meetings.  We each checked with people who had worked with each other.  We knew people loved working with him.  We knew he showed up prepared." How to be creative and innovative... A collaborative process: Recognize people when they do great "The truth is 'hire people that are smarter than you.  You never pay a bad price when you hire people that are better than you.'" "Part of not fronting, of not faking the funk, is admitting when you don't know the answer."  "Let's get the best idea.  Let's source the best idea that we can." Career advice: "Do the work." "Think about the story you want to tell and start telling it." At thanksgiving, why should you not talk about your new creative endeavor: "It's a lot easier to say I don't have the time than to say I'm scared to do it." "Say what your dream is too soon and someone will shoot it down.  Train yourself not to do that." Create a whole family (extended family) group chat Use the "Get To Know You Document" Why joining The Learning Leader Circle is a good idea
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Apr 7, 2019 • 51min

305: Marcus Buckingham & Ashley Goodall - A Leader's Guide To The Real World (Break All The Rules)

The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk Episode #305: Marcus Buckingham & Ashley Goodall - A Leader's Guide To The Real World (Break All The Rules) Full show notes can be found at www.LearningLeader.com Marcus Buckingham holds a master's degree in social and political science from Cambridge University and is a member of the Secretary of State's Advisory Committee on Leadership and Management.  He's the author of the international best-seller, First, Break All The Rules. Ashley Goodall is the co-author, with Marcus Buckingham, of Nine Lies About Work: A Freethinking Leader’s Guide to the Real World.  He is an executive, leadership expert, and author, and has spent his career exploring large organizations from the inside. Notes from this talk: Sustaining excellence: Optimism -- An innate predisposition that things will get better Individualization -- Ability to attract great talent.  Knowing that each person has something unique to bring "You follow somebody if they give you confidence in the future." "The world will be better if I hitch my wagon to you." Great managers/leaders = They know how to surround themselves with the right people -- "If you want a great party, invite great people." They focus on people first They help them.  They coach them.  They find a path and set expectations. They grow.  They make the next step and help others do the same. "Talent is more important than experience." Talent = a recurring pattern of thought.  Enduring patterns in a person.  Hire for those, then train for skills. How to find talented people? Ask open ended questions, stay quiet, believe what they say. Ask appetite questions:  "What did you love most about that?" Talents are far more about natural appetite Feedback: "People need feedback to grow and excel.  It grows best not with feedback, but with help." People grown when attention is given to them.  "Pay attention to me.  My talents."  People need attention to what really works in them Leaders must look at the real world Idiosyncratic -- The best are... There is a difference between theory world and the real world "Learning is an emergent experience."  It's inside out... How you do your version... How do you measure things that are hard to measure? "Must make a distinction between traits and states." Example of a trait = extroversion Example of a state = mood, skills (can change) Competencies are a combination of both Being labeled a "Hi-Po" (high potential) in an organization:  "It's made up, not a thing.  Toxic because it presumes that some human brains can't/won't grow." "There is no point in having the 'hi-po' conversation.  In talent reviews, ask for each person... How will they grow best?  Don't use a 9 box grid." "Replace potential for momentum." "Work life balance is a very weird aspiration.  It's very hard to do it perfectly." "Balance is a way of being stationary.  It's not a good way to move through life." "We shouldn't tell people to do this.  Health is motion, finding love, finding red threads." "It draws you in.  You should move through life.  Draw strength from the movement." "If a leader has no followers, they're not a leader." -- "Follow-ship is the thing." "We all have fears for the future.  Find a leader that can see around the corner, we're drawn to that." "Be a free thinking leader." Use the "Get To Know You Document" Why joining The Learning Leader Circle is a good idea Social Media: Read: Nine Lies: A Freethinking Leader's Guide To The Real World Follow Marcus on Twitter: @mwbuckingham Connect with me on LinkedIn Join our Facebook Group: The Learning Leader Community To Follow Me on Twitter: @RyanHawk12
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Mar 31, 2019 • 1h 4min

304: Laura Gassner Otting - How To Carve Your Own Path

The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk Episode #304: Laura Gassner Otting - How To Carve Your Own Path Full show notes can be found at www.LearningLeader.com The Learning Leader Show "It starts young.  We have a world where we are given an identity. We need to think, 'is that really what I want?" Show Notes: Sustaining excellence: Live on the edge of your incompetence -- "The more you talk, the less you listen."  Need to be asking questions and listening. Tenacity, grit Put yourself in uncomfortable situations Be in a position to learn something new from your failures... "That is delightful." "Looking into someone and seeing their greatness." Running coach -- "Calm, confident, reflect back to the dream  Compete. Issues with execution... Why? "We get stuck chasing someone else's dream." How do we know? "It starts young.  We have a world where we are given an identity. We need to think, 'is that really what I want?" The four parts of consonace: Calling -- It's bigger than you Connection - The work actually matters Contribution - It contributes to the life you actually want Control - How much do I have? "My mother told me I needed to be a lawyer." -- "I wanted to run for office." How did Laura end up in the Clinton Whitehouse? "I learned how to show up for others... And be dedicated to excellence" "I was a great leader, but a terrible manager."  You need to be self-aware Advice to new managers: "People want feedback.  Ask them if that project reflected their understanding of the assignment or their ability?" Laura's TEDx Talk: Stop asking, 'how can I help?' Think, 'what needs to happen?' Her fight with Ann Coulter Must be willing to change your mind as a leader -- "Our stories are our connections." Becoming an athlete -- Laura ran the first mile of her life nine years ago.  Now, she's a competitive rower.  And she ran in the Boston marathon. Confidence is built through doing.  Continue to push the boundaries of our own competence. Tel Aviv: Hunger Weight Tenacity Speed Grit/Heart Don't get in the comparison trap with other people's highlight reels on social media Advice she received that's been helpful -- "You're just not that important" Study -- Team of Rivals -- About Lincoln Use the "Get To Know You Document" Why joining The Learning Leader Circle is a good idea
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Mar 24, 2019 • 59min

303: General Stanley McChrystal - The New Definition Of Leadership

Stanley McChrystal, a retired four-star general and leadership consultant, shares insights on the evolving nature of leadership. He emphasizes that effective leadership is context-dependent, highlighting the importance of adaptability and active listening. McChrystal discusses his journey from a struggling student to a military commander, revealing how empathy and mentorship shape team dynamics. He introduces the 'Team of Teams' concept, advocating for connectivity and collaboration, and stresses the need for authenticity and reverse accountability in leading effectively.
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Mar 17, 2019 • 1h 23min

302: Nick Kokonas - How To See The Genius In People

The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk 302: Nick Kokonas - How To See The Genius In People Full show notes can be found at www.LearningLeader.com Commonalities of sustaining excellence: Intellectual curiosity - A desire to learn.  Not for the outcome, but for the curiosity to learn more Healthy degree of paranoia - What Jim Collins would call "productive paranoia" In the pursuit of excellence "No one is giving it away for free.  It takes effort." Balance -- "I get manic at times. I'm not always well balanced."  The skill is in being able to turn it on and off... Which can happen over time "I've always been curious about how things worked..." Why it was helpful to go to Colgate University A Liberal Arts school forced Nick to study areas outside of just his major.  Made him more well-rounded He "learned how to learn" -- Forced him to wrestle with existential questions Rhetoric -- Can you understand all sides of an issue? Where does ambiguity exist? Need to learn to think critically -- How you do it is more important that you do it General advice: "Learn to communicate well.  Concisely. Learn to write and speak well. From a psychology perspective, analyze, "what are they really saying?" Why he became a derivatives trader: "I got into law school, but didn't want to go." He tested well, but desired his independence "Prestige as part of pay doesn't matter to me." To be great at anything, you must be disciplined to show up everyday -- "My money has always been at risk everyday. Some think that's crazy.  But I've always worked to have an edge." How to figure out outcomes as soon as possible The decision to leave the world of derivatives trading to open a restaurant... Why? "I took some money off the table... Then my dad died... and I thought, what am I doing?  I had no idea what I was going to do next..." Meeting Grant Achatz and the impact that had on Nick's life... "He reminded me a lot of myself.  He was thoughtful, driven, shy (this was the opposite), and he wasn't afraid of hard work." "I think I have a skill to see the genius in some people." "Grant's work is of artistic genius" Doing what you love and are passionate about: "For me the test is... When I wake up in the morning is it nagging at me to do it?"
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Mar 10, 2019 • 1h 6min

301: James Kerr - How To Create An Ethos Of Excellence (Legacy)

The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk Episode #301 with James Kerr Full show notes can be found at www.LearningLeader.com Commonalities of sustaining excellence: Humility - An ego-less approach. "Serve to lead" mentality Curiosity - Following passion Value Excellence - Focus on doing the small things right These are transferable principles to any organziation The "All Blacks" rugby team "are our Gods in New Zealand."  They've won just under 80% of their games in history Scored twice as many points as their competitors The most successful sports team of all time Sustained high performance Mana = The God within.  The spirit... The ethos that creates excellence decade after decade Surprises? "The softness in this hard game.  A love, a brotherhood, connection, meaning, caring for one another." How have they sustained excellence? Tradition Starts at the top with the leaders Breaking down old orthodox Like the British SAS - "Rank but no class" Leadership group -- It's not just one coach.  Everyone's ideas are valued. It's a player led team - "Positive power of peer pressure."  That feeling of not wanting to let one of your teammates down "You fight more for the person in the foxhole next to you." The Spartan sword and shield.  You can lose you sword, but you can never lose your shield.  That helps protect your brother. Accountability - There is leadership at every level It empowers the individual in a project bigger than themselves How does this work in business? Helps them step up, take ownership, be responsible "A leader is responsible for the result.  Good or bad."
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Mar 4, 2019 • 1h 42min

300 - Keith & AJ Hawk - How To Instill Work Ethic & Curiosity In Your Children

The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk Episode #300: Keith & AJ Hawk - How To Instill Work Ethic & Curiosity In Your Kids Full show notes can be found at www.LearningLeader.com  Keith Hawk is a 32-year veteran sales professional and sales leader.  For over ten years he led one of America's greatest sales organizations, at LexisNexis.  He continues in a customer focused role to this day at that global organization, speaking to customer groups around the world on the topic of solving business problems with the solutions offered by his firm.  In addition, he continues to speak regularly on topics such as consultative selling, selling to executives, and how to effectively lead people.  He also happens to be my dad. AJ Hawk played 11 seasons in the NFL.  He was a two-time All American at Ohio State and he also won The Lombardi Award (as a senior at Ohio State) as the countries best defensive player.  He was the fifth overall draft pick of the Green Bay Packers in the 2006 NFL draft.  He was voted team captain on their Super Bowl winning team in 2010.  He finished his career as the all time leading tackler in Green Bay Packer history.  AJ is my younger brother. Staying sharp after official retirement? "My mind is as clear as it's been in many years. I read more, write more, listen to more podcasts, I learn more now than I ever have." "I never liked getting the question, 'did you get all of your work done?' As a senior leader at a big company, the work was never done. In my role now, I can go give a speech and get the work done." Advice to others - "Stay patient a little bit, you have to find a way to grab hold of your day and take control of it.  Don't let others do that to you." AJ's progress to improve as a broadcaster: There is no end game Must keep grinding and getting as many reps as possible "You have to jump in and do the work." You can't worry about judgement from others. You have to get the reps. Get on the stage and do it. How to handle the follow up to a competitive life in the NFL? Must have realistic expectations... That amount of competition will never happen again.  That's okay as long as you're prepared for it Broadcasting is a never ending battle with myself to get better.  To improve.  "I'm competitive with myself to get better."  Learning the intricacies from the greats.  "I've learned to be quiet, to let a moment breathe." Why are walk-thurs so important in the NFL?  Why does a world class athlete need to walk-thru a step for over an hour a day? “The tiny details consistently worked on everyday so they become instincts. In the moment you don’t have to think and just rely on the instincts you created.  That's why we did so many walk-thrus in the NFL." Why my Dad went to Green Bay for his birthday week every summer? The famous Tom Hanks quote, "I could watch my son brush his teeth all day." And he loved watching world-class athletes work on perfecting their craft. Listener question: From Tony Milenberger (member of one of my leadership circles) - With all the different directions you guys are going, how do you still manage to like each other? What rhythms keep you connected in the busy seasons?  How does it help your success? We each have different roles and we've worked hard to do a great job at our role.  We all have creative outlets and have remained each others biggest fans.  We push each other to be better.  And when one of the family members reaches a level of fame and fortune (AJ), their ability to remain humble and down to earth is huge.  AJ has done that and created a ton of phenomenal family experiences because of it. The process of earning my book deal with McGraw-Hill... How it all came about.  There was an instant huge belief from Casey Ebro, senior editor from McGraw-Hill.  I describe that conversation and why we chose to work together. Listener question from Mike Flynn: What is your Dad's greatest hopes for his children and grandchildren? Maslow's hierarchy Economics taken care because of their hard work Fulfilled life with a great spouse Work stimulates us, gets us excited Put our children in a place to be successful Self-actualize -- Live up to what you want to do How to handle a situation when you hit a rut? When this happened with my Dad, he always wanted to get directly to the front lines.  "When times got tough, I scheduled days in the field to meet with our customers and our front line people.  I wanted to be reminded why they did business with us.  I wanted to break it down to the bare essentials.  How could I do this in a different way?  Meeting with them helped." Reminded of the quote, "if it's not broke, fix it."  Be proactive.  Billy Joel had this happen to him and he rediscovered his love when he went to a new fan base in Russia. With AJ - "When I was struggling or kept getting caught in the garbage of the linemen in front of me, my coach, Winston Moss, would say, 'why don't you take a step back and see what the view is like from there?' A simple step back to gain a new perspective helped.  
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Feb 25, 2019 • 50min

299: Kyle Maynard - "The World Will Not Be Tailored To Your Every Need" (Scaling Kilimanjaro)

The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk Episode #299: Kyle Maynard Full show notes can be found at www.LearningLeader.com Kyle Maynard is a motivational speaker, bestselling author, entrepreneur, and ESPY award-winning mixed martial arts athlete, known for becoming the first quadruple amputee to reach the summit of Mount Kilimanjaro and Mount Aconcagua without the aid of prosthetics. Oprah Winfrey called Kyle “one of the most inspiring young men you will ever hear about.” Arnold Schwarzenegger described him as “the real deal,” “a champion human,” and “one of the most inspiring people” he’s ever met. Even the great Wayne Gretzky has spoken of Kyle’s “greatness.” Show Notes: Commonalities of sustaining excellence: Consistent action... Plotting Life is a marathon "I've struggled with this." "We live in a society that we think we have to reach the summit" "Climb as hard as you can but relinquish the fact that you've ever arrived."  It will never be enough to fulfill you. "You've never arrived, you're always becoming." "I question what we're driven towards." Losing the first 35 matches... His dad told him that no wrestlers win in their first year and convinced him to go back for his second year "What you're looking for, you're going to find." A self-efficacy belief.  It's in your deeper nervous system... It becomes automatic.  His dad planted the seed. "We have this illusion in our head, but it doesn't happen overnight." "The world will not be tailored for your every need." "We are softening the edges, we need to learn how to mentally deal with things." "We need to choose conscious suffering." "Voluntary hardship" The power of meeting veterans in an airport on a way to giving motivational speeches "It shifted, it wasn't about me."  The message helped veterans not commit suicide. "It's B.S. to think anyone is self-made.  We all need help."  The ripple effect. Why climb? "I want to experience the world.  Just did scuba dive at the Great Barrier reef." Crawling 19,340 feet in just ten days... Climbing Mount Kilmanjaro "Focus on that next three feet in front of you..." Just the next step.  Before you know it, you put your head up and you're at your destination Reminds me of Alison Levine -- "Just put one foot in front of the other and take that next step. Just keep going." "I don't know if I have enough in the tank, but I'm going to keep going." "The 3 feet in front of you is the only thing that matters" "Anything is possible is a lie... Tell the truth, know how to test your limits" "What gets measured gets done" How long can you enjoy accomplishments? "It's a weird dance." "What I'm learning to do now is plotting the essence of it..." Favorite book: Empire Of The Summer Moon Fasting: "When you fast (don't eat), your body picks the weakest cells and eats them."  There is a lot of science to support fasting Advice to others: Value money but not too much Have a small number of possessions Namaste = "Light inside of me.  Recognize light inside of you." Take calculated risk, go on adventures "Follow your bliss"

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