
The Habit
Conversations with writers about writing, hosted by Jonathan Rogers.
Latest episodes

Apr 22, 2024 • 41min
Leif Enger on I Cheerfully Refuse
Leif Enger writes novels about good people living through bad times. His new book, I Cheerfully Refuse, epitomizes what the Los Angeles Tines calls Enger's “musical, sometimes magical and deeply satisfying kind of storytelling.” In this episode, Leif Enger and Jonathan Rogers talk about dystopian fiction; courage, literacy, and hope; and the bass guitar.Support the show: https://therabbitroom.givingfuel.com/memberSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 15, 2024 • 41min
Emily P. Freeman On How to Walk Into a Room
Emily P. Freeman spends a lot of time thinking, talking, and writing about discernment and decision-making–doing the next right thing. She hosts The Next Right Thing podcast and created The Next Right Thing Guided Journal. Her latest book is How to Walk Into a Room: The Art of Knowing When to Stay and When to Walk Away. In this conversation, Emily and Jonathan Rogers talk about pointing and calling, the difference between discernment and decision-making, and the counterintuitive truth that, when it comes to discerning the next best step, remembering is more important than predicting. Support the show: https://therabbitroom.givingfuel.com/memberSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 8, 2024 • 41min
Faith Chang Is a Perfectionist.
Faith Chang struggles with perfectionism. Nevertheless, she pushed through and finished a book–about perfectionism. It’s called Peace Over Perfection: Enjoying a Good God When You Feel You're Never Good Enough. Faith is the guest on this week’s episode of The Habit Podcast.Support the show: https://therabbitroom.givingfuel.com/memberSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 1, 2024 • 47min
Kenneth Padgett and Shay Gregorie on Visual Storytelling
Kenneth Padgett and Shay Gregorie are the founders of Wolfbane Books. They are also co-authors of the Story of God trilogy of picture books, beautifully illustrated by Aedan Peterson—The Story of God with Us, The Story of God the King, and The Story of God Our Savior. In this episode, Kenneth and Shay and Jonathan Rogers talk about visual storytelling, Biblical theology (as distinct from systematic theology), mountains, and alligators. Support the show: https://therabbitroom.givingfuel.com/memberSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 25, 2024 • 36min
Brian Zahnd on Poetic Theology
Pastor Brian Zahnd and Jonathan Rogers discuss theopoetics, aesthetics in the church, and the significance of crosses. They explore atonement theories, admiration for inspirational figures, and the importance of beauty in evangelism. The conversation touches on theopoetics in theological dialogues, Fra Angelico's Crucifixion Fresco, and the influence of authors like Dostoevsky on Zahnd's writing.

Mar 18, 2024 • 44min
Sarah Arthur is a spy for hope.
Sarah Arthur has written and published a dozen books over the last twenty years or so, but her new book, Once a Queen, is her first foray into fiction. Once a Queen is a portal fantasy with clear connections to the books of E. Nesbit, The Secret Garden, and the Chronicles of Narnia. In this conversation, Sarah and Jonathan Rogers talk about literary influences (both conscious and unconscious), writers’ groups, and being “a spy for hope.”Support the show: https://therabbitroom.givingfuel.com/memberSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 11, 2024 • 54min
Andi Ashworth and Charlie Peacock Think Everything Matters
Andi Ashworth and Charlie Peacock live at the intersection of hospitality and creativity. This husband and wife duo founded Art House America, a unique artistic hub of rich hospitality, conversations of consequence, and imaginative creativity. Charlie is a Grammy-winning record producer. Andi is an author, a mentor, and a paragon of hospitality. Together they wrote a new book, Why Everything that Doesn’t Matter, Matters So Much. In this conversation, Andi and Charlie speak with Jonathan Rogers about the idea of cultivating a life of the mind while being firmly planted in our flesh-and-bone, earthly existence. We talk about the ways that "Love can be the trustworthy basis of imaginative and creative good.” And we talk about Andi’s journaling practice, among other things.Support the show: https://therabbitroom.givingfuel.com/memberSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 4, 2024 • 42min
Amy F. Davis Abdallah loves ritual.
Amy F. Davis Abdallah and Jonathan Rogers discuss the power of rituals, exploring how they shape beliefs and behaviors. They delve into rites of passage for women and the symbolism of inaugurations. The episode highlights the transformative power of rituals, emphasizing their ability to communicate meaning beyond information.

Feb 26, 2024 • 45min
Mike Cosper on the Stories We Tell Ourselves
Mike Cosper is the director of podcasting for Christianity Today, where he hosts The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill and Cultivated: A Podcast About Faith and Work. He is the author of several books, most recently Land of My Sojourn: The Landscape of a Faith Lost and Found.Support the show: https://therabbitroom.givingfuel.com/memberSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 19, 2024 • 43min
Allen Levi Wants You to be Brave.
Allen Levi, a multi-talented singer-songwriter, storyteller, lawyer, judge, and novelist, shares his rich journey from law to creative endeavors. He discusses the power of personal storytelling and the importance of human connection, particularly through acts of kindness. Levi highlights the creative challenges of small-town life and how genuine relationships foster authentic narratives. He reflects on overcoming fears in writing and the influence of esteemed authors in shaping his craft, all while urging listeners to embrace bravery in their own stories.
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