
The Habit
Conversations with writers about writing, hosted by Jonathan Rogers.
Latest episodes

Jun 3, 2024 • 37min
Eric Schumacher is weak (and he thinks it's a gift).
Weakness doesn’t feel like a gift. But author, podcaster, and songwriter Eric Schumacher believes that it is. His new book is The Good Gift of Weakness: God’s Strength Made Perfect in the Story of Redemption. In this episode, Eric and Jonathan Rogers talk about the gifts that follow when we come to terms with our weakness, what it means to be in a posture to receive rather than to strive, and the relief that comes from letting go of the need to control.Support the show: https://therabbitroom.givingfuel.com/memberSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 27, 2024 • 46min
Rebecca Gomez and Rachel Donahue Talk Novels in Verse
Poet Rebecca Gomez is the author and also the illustrator of Mari in the Margins, a middle-grade novel in verse. Her editor, also a poet, is Rachel Donahue of Bandersnatch Books. For the first time on The Habit Podcast, in this episode Jonathan Rogers is in conversation with both the author and her editor. Support the show: https://therabbitroom.givingfuel.com/memberSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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May 20, 2024 • 45min
Lore Wilbert on the Life that Grows Out of Death
Lore Ferguson Wilbert, a writer on spiritual formation and theology, discusses profound themes of life and death. She explores how decay fuels new growth, drawing parallels between forest ecosystems and personal transformation through grief. The conversation highlights the vital role of mycorrhizal fungi in fostering community, advocating for interconnectedness in both nature and society. They reflect on patience in creativity, emphasizing authenticity over competition, and the lessons nature teaches us about resilience and renewal.

May 13, 2024 • 35min
Sarah MacKenzie Tells the Story of Hope
As host of the Read-Aloud Revival Podcast and the Read-Aloud Revival Online Community, Sarah MacKenzie has brought untold joy to bookish families. Besides connecting families with other people’s books, Sarah has started writing and publishing her own picture books. Her latest is Because Barbara: Barbara Cooney Paints Her World. Illustrated by Eileen Ryan Ewen, this picture-book biography tells the story of one of America’s best-loved and most celebrated children’s book illustrators. Because Barbara is available for preorder. If you order by June 18, 2024, you can get free Bonuses, including a Family Book Club Guide, audiobook, videobook, and an invitation to a Zoom Book Party Picnic with the author & Illustrator!.Support the show: https://therabbitroom.givingfuel.com/memberSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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May 6, 2024 • 43min
Malcolm Guite apprehends more than reason comprehends. (Rebroadcast)
Poet-priest Malcolm Guite and Jonathan Rogers discuss imagination as a way of knowing, blending reason with creativity in poetry. They delve into the transformative power of poetry, personal experiences with faith, and the profound depth of language in crafting poetic creations.

Apr 29, 2024 • 32min
Courtney Ellis Is Looking Up
Besides being a bird enthusiast, Courtney Ellis is a pastor in Southern California, the author of several books, and the host of a podcast called The Thing with Feathers. Her new book is Looking Up: A Birder’s Guide to Hope through Grief. In this episode, Courtney and Jonathan Rogers talk about delight, presence, and cultivating attention. Support the show: https://therabbitroom.givingfuel.com/memberSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 22, 2024 • 41min
Leif Enger on I Cheerfully Refuse
Leif Enger writes novels about good people living through bad times. His new book, I Cheerfully Refuse, epitomizes what the Los Angeles Tines calls Enger's “musical, sometimes magical and deeply satisfying kind of storytelling.” In this episode, Leif Enger and Jonathan Rogers talk about dystopian fiction; courage, literacy, and hope; and the bass guitar.Support the show: https://therabbitroom.givingfuel.com/memberSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 15, 2024 • 41min
Emily P. Freeman On How to Walk Into a Room
Emily P. Freeman spends a lot of time thinking, talking, and writing about discernment and decision-making–doing the next right thing. She hosts The Next Right Thing podcast and created The Next Right Thing Guided Journal. Her latest book is How to Walk Into a Room: The Art of Knowing When to Stay and When to Walk Away. In this conversation, Emily and Jonathan Rogers talk about pointing and calling, the difference between discernment and decision-making, and the counterintuitive truth that, when it comes to discerning the next best step, remembering is more important than predicting. Support the show: https://therabbitroom.givingfuel.com/memberSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 8, 2024 • 41min
Faith Chang Is a Perfectionist.
Faith Chang struggles with perfectionism. Nevertheless, she pushed through and finished a book–about perfectionism. It’s called Peace Over Perfection: Enjoying a Good God When You Feel You're Never Good Enough. Faith is the guest on this week’s episode of The Habit Podcast.Support the show: https://therabbitroom.givingfuel.com/memberSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 1, 2024 • 47min
Kenneth Padgett and Shay Gregorie on Visual Storytelling
Kenneth Padgett and Shay Gregorie are the founders of Wolfbane Books. They are also co-authors of the Story of God trilogy of picture books, beautifully illustrated by Aedan Peterson—The Story of God with Us, The Story of God the King, and The Story of God Our Savior. In this episode, Kenneth and Shay and Jonathan Rogers talk about visual storytelling, Biblical theology (as distinct from systematic theology), mountains, and alligators. Support the show: https://therabbitroom.givingfuel.com/memberSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.