

Artificial Intelligence and You
aiandyou
What is AI? How will it affect your life, your work, and your world?
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Sep 22, 2025 • 28min
275 - Guest: Carl Benedikt Frey, Professor of AI and Work, part 2
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"The book seems to be more timely than originally anticipated." I'm talking with Carl Benedikt Frey about his new book, How Progress Ends: Technology, Innovation, and the Fate of Nations, and its exploration of the political and economic effects of policies like tariffs and university defunding comes at a very critical time. AI is projected to have enormous economic and social impacts that call for the biggest of big picture thinking, and Frey is the co-author of the 2013 study The Future of Employment: How Susceptible Are Jobs to Computerization, which has received over 12,000 citations.
He is Associate Professor of AI and Work at the Oxford Internet Institute and Director and Founder of the Future of Work Programme at the Oxford Martin School, both at the University of Oxford. His 2019 book, The Technology Trap: Capital, Labor, and Power in the Age of Automation, was selected as a Financial Times Best Book of the Year and awarded Princeton University’s Richard A. Lester Prize.
In the conclusion, we talk about the links between innovation and industry productivity, why AI hasn’t yet delivered broad gains, automation’s uneven effects on workers, the role of antitrust in sustaining competition, and the need for institutions like Oxford to adapt.
All this plus our usual look at today's AI headlines.
Transcript and URLs referenced at HumanCusp Blog.

Sep 15, 2025 • 35min
274 - Guest: Carl Benedikt Frey, Professor of AI and Work, part 1
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"The book seems to be more timely than originally anticipated." I'm talking with Carl Benedikt Frey about his new book, How Progress Ends: Technology, Innovation, and the Fate of Nations, and its exploration of the political and economic effects of policies like tariffs and university defunding comes at a very critical time. AI is projected to have enormous economic and social impacts that call for the biggest of big picture thinking, and Frey is the co-author of the 2013 study The Future of Employment: How Susceptible Are Jobs to Computerization, which has received over 12,000 citations.
He is Associate Professor of AI and Work at the Oxford Internet Institute and Director and Founder of the Future of Work Programme at the Oxford Martin School, both at the University of Oxford. His 2019 book, The Technology Trap: Capital, Labor, and Power in the Age of Automation, was selected as a Financial Times Best Book of the Year and awarded Princeton University’s Richard A. Lester Prize.
We talk about whether progress is inevitable, how growth depends on the interplay of technology and institutions, the link between productivity and innovation, the importance of institutional flexibility and decentralized funding, the effects of tariffs, the risks of China’s increasingly centralized model, and why the US and China are both triggering declining dynamism in each other.
All this plus our usual look at today's AI headlines.
Transcript and URLs referenced at HumanCusp Blog.

Sep 8, 2025 • 34min
273 - Guest: Megan Peters, Computational Cognitive Scientist, part 2
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I'm talking with Megan Peters, who researches thinking about thinking, or metacognition. She is an Associate Professor in the UC Irvine Department of Cognitive Sciences, studying how the brain represents and uses uncertainty, focusing on how these abilities support metacognitive evaluations of the quality of our decisions. She’s a Fellow in the UCI Center for the Neurobiology of Learning and Memory, the UCI Center for Theoretical Behavioral Sciences, and the Canadian Institute for Advanced Research (CIFAR) Brain Mind & Consciousness program. She’s also President and Co-founder of Neuromatch, an educational platform serving over 30,000 students in over 120 countries across computational neurosciences, deep learning, computational climate science, and neuroAI.
In our conclusion, we talk about Turing Tests, measuring the brain, the Haunted Mansion, some cool experiments on brains, and… cats.
All this plus our usual look at today's AI headlines.
Transcript and URLs referenced at HumanCusp Blog.

Sep 1, 2025 • 41min
272 - Guest: Megan Peters, Computational Cognitive Scientist, part 1
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Have you ever thought about thinking? That’s called metacognition, and Megan Peters thinks about that, a lot. She is an Associate Professor in the UC Irvine Department of Cognitive Sciences, researching how the brain represents and uses uncertainty, focusing on how these abilities support metacognitive evaluations of the quality of our decisions. She’s a Fellow in the UCI Center for the Neurobiology of Learning and Memory, the UCI Center for Theoretical Behavioral Sciences, and the Canadian Institute for Advanced Research (CIFAR) Brain Mind & Consciousness program. She’s also President and Co-founder of Neuromatch, an educational platform serving over 30,000 students in over 120 countries across computational neurosciences, deep learning, computational climate science, and neuroAI.
We get really meta here: talking about thinking about thinking, how we build models of the world, how language shapes our thinking, whether AI is doing metacognition in its chains of thought, statistical learning in AIs and humans, consciousness in humans and animals and AIs, and theories of consciousness.
All this plus our usual look at today's AI headlines.
Transcript and URLs referenced at HumanCusp Blog.

Aug 25, 2025 • 41min
271 - Guest: Christof Koch, Cognitive Scientist, part 2
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I am talking with neuroscientist Christof Koch, and as he says, "How is it that we, a piece of furniture of the universe like a rock or a star or a tree, can love or hate or see or hear?" What, in other words, makes us conscious, and what does that mean? He is known for his work exploring the substrate of consciousness in humans, animals, and machines and is the author of more than 350 peer-reviewed publications and five books, the latest of which is Then I Am Myself the World: What Consciousness Is and How to Expand It. A physicist and neurobiologist, he was for more than a quarter of a century a professor of biology and engineering at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. In 2011, he became the Chief Scientist at the Allen Institute for Brain Science in Seattle and in 2015, its president; now a Meritorious Investigator. He is also the Chief Scientist of the Tiny Blue Dot Foundation in Santa Monica, seeking to understand consciousness, its place in nature, and how this knowledge can benefit all of humanity.
In part 2, we talk about a theory of consciousness that Christof is a primary researcher of: Integrated Information Theory, and tools for detecting and measuring consciousness, the magic number φ, the possibility of consciousness transfer, philosophical zombies, and neural correlates of consciousness.
All this plus our usual look at today's AI headlines.
Transcript and URLs referenced at HumanCusp Blog.

Aug 18, 2025 • 37min
270 - Guest: Christof Koch, Cognitive Scientist, part 1
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As my guest today says, "How is it that we, a piece of furniture of the universe like a rock or a star or a tree, can love or hate or see or hear?" What, in other words, makes us conscious, and what does that mean? He is the cognitive scientist Christof Koch, known for his work exploring the substrate of consciousness in humans, animals, and machines. He is the author of more than 350 peer-reviewed publications and five books, the latest of which is Then I Am Myself the World: What Consciousness Is and How to Expand It. A physicist and neurobiologist, he was for more than a quarter of a century a professor of biology and engineering at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. In 2011, he became the Chief Scientist at the Allen Institute for Brain Science in Seattle and in 2015, its president; now a Meritorious Investigator. He is also the Chief Scientist of the Tiny Blue Dot Foundation in Santa Monica, seeking to understand consciousness, its place in nature, and how this knowledge can benefit all of humanity.
Why is an AI show interested in consciousness? Because the questions constantly arise, is AI conscious? How will we know when it is? How can or should we make it conscious? And if we can’t answer those questions for human beings, how will we answer them for anything else?
We talk about the relationships between existence, identity, quantum mechanics, language, and consciousness, and cosmic consciousness, how conscious parts of your body might be, connecting brains to each other, including an example that’s already happened, and… opera. It is possibly literally mind blowing.
All this plus our usual look at today's AI headlines.
Transcript and URLs referenced at HumanCusp Blog.

Aug 11, 2025 • 36min
269 - Guest: De Kai, Pioneer of Google Translate, part 2
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"We are in the privileged - or unfortunate - situation of being the last generation of humans to be parenting AIs. All the future generations of AIs are going to be parented mainly by AIs. And so even more than with our human children and grandchildren, we have one shot at raising this next generation correctly."
I am talking with De Kai, a pioneering professor of AI who built the web’s first global online language translator that spawned Google Translate and Microsoft Bing Translator, and author of new book, Raising AI: An Essential Guide to Parenting Our Future.
De Kai was honored by the Association for Computational Linguistics as one of its 17 Founding Fellows and holds joint appointments at HKUST’s Department of Computer Science and Engineering and Division of Arts and Machine Creativity, and at Berkeley’s International Computer Science Institute. He is Independent Director of the AI ethics think tank The Future Society and was one of eight inaugural members of Google’s AI ethics council. So he’s helped create some of the most important mechanisms and institutions of the modern AI age.
In the conclusion of our interview, we talk about how to parent AI and what that means, responsibilities of the AI companies, a kind of parent-teacher association for AI and how to get involved, and our responsibilities to the next generation.
All this plus our usual look at today's AI headlines.
Transcript and URLs referenced at HumanCusp Blog.

Aug 4, 2025 • 32min
268 - Guest: De Kai, Pioneer of Google Translate, part 1
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As AI becomes more and more powerful, what is our responsibility, collectively? I am joined by De Kai, a pioneering professor of AI who built the web’s first global online language translator that spawned Google Translate and Microsoft Bing Translator. And he has answered those questions with his new book, Raising AI: An Essential Guide to Parenting Our Future.
De Kai was honored by the Association for Computational Linguistics as one of its 17 Founding Fellows and holds joint appointments at Hong Kong University of Science and Technology’s Department of Computer Science and Engineering and Division of Arts and Machine Creativity, and at Berkeley’s International Computer Science Institute. He is Independent Director of the AI ethics think tank The Future Society and was one of eight inaugural members of Google’s AI ethics council. So he’s helped create some of the most important mechanisms and institutions of the modern AI age.
We talk about why we should parent AI, the existential issues that drove him to write the book, seeing AI as neuro-atypical, and the architecture and features of AI that are important to consider in how we relate to it.
All this plus our usual look at today's AI headlines.
Transcript and URLs referenced at HumanCusp Blog.

Jul 28, 2025 • 57min
267 - Joint Episode with the London Futurists Podcast
Join Calum Chace, a leading futurist and author of 'Surviving AI,' and David Wood, chair of London Futurists and tech influencer, as they delve into the world of AI agents. They discuss the complexities of AI verification and the pressing security challenges these technologies present. Unpacking the unintended consequences of social media algorithms, they warn of the biases they create. Their insights also touch on technology accountability and the future of AI interactions, blending caution with optimism in an evolving landscape.

Jul 21, 2025 • 39min
266 - Guest: Kate Hayles, Literary and Technological Analyst, part 2
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It’s more important than ever to define just what we mean by words like intelligence, consciousness, and thinking. Here to help us is Kate Hayles, Distinguished Research Professor at UCLA and the James B. Duke Professor Emerita from Duke University. Her research focuses on the relations of literature, science and technology, and her books include Postprint: Books and Becoming Computational, Unthought: The Power of the Cognitive Nonconscious, and How We Think: Digital Media and Contemporary Technogenesis. She has fellowships from the National Endowment for the Humanities, the Guggenheim, a Rockefeller Residential Fellowship at Bellagio, and two University of California Presidential Research Fellowships, and she is a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. We are focusing on her new book, Bacteria to AI: Human Futures with our Nonhuman Symbionts, where she lays out a new theory of mind—what she calls an integrated cognitive framework—that includes the meaning-making practices of lifeforms from bacteria to plants, animals, humans, and some forms of artificial intelligence.
In part 2, we talk about where meaning resides, for instance in poetry and literature, and how students’ attention span has changed and shortened as a result of multitasking or multiple information streams and how educational models need to change, how our cognitive symbiosis with AI might evolve, and markers of whether AI has consciousness, sentience, or deserves any individual rights.
All this plus our usual look at today's AI headlines.
Transcript and URLs referenced at HumanCusp Blog.