

EdTechnical
Owen Henkel & Libby Hills
Join two former teachers - Libby Hills from the Jacobs Foundation and AI researcher Owen Henkel - for the EdTechnical podcast series about AI in education. Each episode, Libby and Owen will ask experts to help educators sift the useful insights from the AI hype. They’ll be asking questions like - how does this actually help students and teachers? What do we actually know about this technology, and what’s just speculation? And (importantly!) when we say AI, what are we actually talking about?
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Oct 2, 2025 • 19min
Why AI Detectors Don't Work for Education
Explore the challenges of AI detection in education as traditional tools struggle against clever student tactics. Learn how paraphrasing and translation thwart detection efforts, while false positives compromise accuracy. The hosts advocate for process-based assessments like keystroke tracking and oral exams, offering more reliable evaluations. They also examine institutional barriers to innovation and discuss the implications of students' motivations in using AI. This insightful conversation questions how we can enhance academic assessment in the digital age.

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Sep 18, 2025 • 38min
Rewiring the Brain: Reading, AI and the Science of Literacy
Dr. Jason Yeatman, a neuroscientist and associate professor at Stanford, dives into the fascinating world of how our brains learn to read. He explains how reading rewires the brain's visual cortex and discusses the creation of ROAR, a tool developed to identify literacy gaps in students. The conversation explores the interplay between AI and reading, addressing both its potential benefits and limitations. They reflect on the essential nature of literacy in an age dominated by technology and the challenges educators face in fostering deep comprehension.

Aug 14, 2025 • 37min
Assessment in Education: To AI or Not to AI?
Dylan Wiliam, Emeritus Professor at UCL Institute of Education, dives into the transformative intersection of formative assessment and AI in education. He reveals the reasons why formative assessment is underutilized despite its effectiveness. Wiliam discusses AI's potential to automate summative assessments while warning against its limitations in providing meaningful feedback. He advocates for live oral exams and portfolio assessments to enhance learning authenticity and reduce cheating, offering a fresh perspective on the evolving teacher-student dynamic.

Jul 17, 2025 • 16min
Is ChatGPT Rotting Your Brain?
In this short, Libby and Owen digest a recent MIT study attracting a lot of attention, ‘Your Brain on ChatGPT: Accumulation of Cognitive Debt When Using an AI Assistant for Essay Writing’. The study looked at how using tools like ChatGPT for writing essays affects people's brains and writing abilities compared to using search engines or just their own thinking. Is there a potential trade-off between making writing easier in the short term, but harming cognitive abilities and learning over time? This question is especially salient for students who are in the earlier stages of developing their essay writing skills. Link:Your Brain on ChatGPTJoin us on social media: BOLD (@BOLD_insights), Libby Hills (@Libbylhhills) and Owen Henkel (@owen_henkel) Listen to all episodes of Ed-Technical here: https://bold.expert/ed-technical Subscribe to BOLD’s newsletter: https://bold.expert/newsletter Stay up to date with all the latest research on child development and learning: https://bold.expert Credits: Sarah Myles for production support; Josie Hills for graphic design; Anabel Altenburg for content production.

Jun 17, 2025 • 34min
Finding Their Voice: Voice AI for Literacy Support
Guests Amelia Kelly, CTO of Soapbox Labs and an innovator in voice technology, and Kristen Huff, Head of Measurement at Curriculum Associates with a wealth of experience in K-12 assessments, dive into the transformative potential of voice AI for literacy. They discuss how speech recognition can identify reading challenges early and personalize feedback for students. The conversation highlights practical implementation, addressing noisy classrooms, and the importance of building teacher trust in AI assessments while navigating ethical considerations.

May 6, 2025 • 31min
Coach or Crutch?: Using AI to hone self regulation (not outsource it)
Inge Molenaar, a Professor of Education & AI at Radboud University, shares insights on the critical role of self-regulated learning (SRL) in education. They discuss how AI can serve as a coaching tool rather than a crutch, enhancing students' ability to monitor their own learning. The conversation dives deep into the need for careful AI design, fostering independence, and ensuring technology supports, rather than diminishes, student autonomy. Inge also weighs in on navigating personal AI use for effective learning.

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Apr 22, 2025 • 15min
A1 sauce for all: Reflections from SXSW and ASUGSV
Reflections from recent EdTech conferences reveal significant shifts in US education. Key topics include the urgent need for AI literacy and the debate between transformation and efficiency in schools. The discussions highlight the chaotic landscape of educational funding and the challenges of incorporating innovative practices into traditional systems. Participants stress the disruptive potential of AI for education, emphasizing the importance of preparing both students and teachers for an AI-driven future.

Mar 26, 2025 • 22min
Mimicry versus meaning: why context is important for AI tools
Another live Ed-Technical episode! In this short, Owen does a deep dive on AI and discourse analysis (the study of how meaning is constructed through language) with three experts. The conversation explores the intersection between AI, particularly Large Language Models (LLMs), and the study of discourse. This is a topical conversation as LLM capabilities continue to evolve. LLMs have mastered sentence level communication. However we know less about their ability to be useful over the course of a full conversation and complex and interactive processes (like learning) that require deeper appreciation of context. Featuring:Pani Kendeu: Professor at the University of Minnesota, researching learning, cognition, and technology, and a former elementary school teacher. Alyssa Wise: Professor of Technology and Education at Vanderbilt University, directing the Live Learning Innovation Incubator which bridges technology with real-world classroom challenges.Art Graesser: Professor at the University of Memphis, co-founder of the Institute for Intelligent Systems and the Society for Text and Discourse. Join us on social media: BOLD (@BOLD_insights), Libby Hills (@Libbylhhills) and Owen Henkel (@owen_henkel) Listen to all episodes of Ed-Technical here: https://bold.expert/ed-technical Subscribe to BOLD’s newsletter: https://bold.expert/newsletter Stay up to date with all the latest research on child development and learning: https://bold.expert Credits: Sarah Myles for production support; Josie Hills for graphic design; Anabel Altenburg for content production.

Mar 17, 2025 • 31min
Live from SXSW EDU: Evidence Eats AI for Breakfast
Everyone is talking about AI’s power to provide answers, but what about your lingering questions? What does the latest research actually tell us? Join Libby and Owen for this live session from SXSW EDU as they delve into the latest research to uncover where AI is truly adding value in the educational landscape — and where it falls short. They’re joined by two expert guests: Kristen DiCerbo from Khan Academy and Assistant Professor Peter Bergman from University of Texas at Austin and Learning Collider. The group discusses the most pressing open questions and key findings from the latest research.Join us on social media: BOLD (@BOLD_insights), Libby Hills (@Libbylhhills) and Owen Henkel (@owen_henkel) Listen to all episodes of Ed-Technical here: https://bold.expert/ed-technical Subscribe to BOLD’s newsletter: https://bold.expert/newsletter Stay up to date with all the latest research on child development and learning: https://bold.expert Credits: Sarah Myles for production support; Josie Hills for graphic design; Anabel Altenburg for content production.

Feb 25, 2025 • 16min
181 Papers Later: What We Know (and Don't) About GenAI in Schools
In this episode, Owen and Libby chat with Chris Agnew about Stanford's new generative AI hub for education. Chris leads this initiative within Stanford's SCALE program, which aims to be a trusted source for education system leaders on what works in AI and learning.Chris walks us through their research repository of 181 papers examining AI's impact in K-12 education. He outlines their GenAI tools typology which breaks down AI applications into three categories: efficiency gains, improving student outcomes, and reimagining schooling. The conversation explores key research gaps, including how schools can productively engage with teachers' unions on AI adoption and understanding how students use AI tools for homework - the "elephant in the room" that keeps education leaders up at night.Before joining Stanford, Chris worked in non-traditional learning environments from wilderness education to apprenticeship programs. He shares both aspirational and practical visions for AI in education over the next five years - though sadly, none involve Owen's hoped-for cyborg centaur tutors (yet).Links:Stanford Accelerator for Learning SCALE InitiativeGenerative AI Research RepositoryJoin us on social media: BOLD (@BOLD_insights), Libby Hills (@Libbylhhills) and Owen Henkel (@owen_henkel) Listen to all episodes of Ed-Technical here: https://bold.expert/ed-technical Subscribe to BOLD’s newsletter: https://bold.expert/newsletter Stay up to date with all the latest research on child development and learning: https://bold.expert Credits: Sarah Myles for production support; Josie Hills for graphic design; Anabel Altenburg for content production.