Inverse Podcast

Sheila Wise Rowe is a truth-teller who is passionate about matters of faith and emotional healing. She advocates for the dignity, rights, and healing of abuse and racial trauma survivors and racial conciliation. Sheila holds a Master's in counseling psychology and over twenty-eight years of experience as a Counselor, Spiritual Director, Educator, Writer, and Speaker. She’s counseled and taught counseling in Massachusetts, and Paris France. For a decade, Sheila worked with homeless and abused women and children in Johannesburg, South Africa. Sheila is a member of The Redbud Writers Guild and The International Women's Writers Guild. Her essays can be found in numerous blogs, newspapers, journals, and books such as; The Boston Sunday Globe newspaper, The Wonder Years: 40 Women Over 40 on Aging, Faith, Beauty and Strength, Voices of Lament, and The Gospel of Peace in A Violent World. In 2020 Sheila authored the award-winning book Healing Racial Trauma: The Road to Resilience and, recently, Young, Gifted, and Black: A Journey of Lament and Celebration. She is a sought-after speaker at retreats, colleges, churches, organizations, and seminaries in the USA and abroad. Sheila's also a volunteer member of the Community Ethics Committee of Harvard Medical School, a policy-review resource for its teaching hospitals. She lives in Boston, Massachusetts, with Nicholas, her husband of 31 years, and near their adult children. When she is not engaging in ministry, Sheila loves date nights with her husband and creating art, crafts and rummaging through vintage shops.   Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse  Jen Kinney @iamjenkinney produces inverse Podcast

Tamice Spencer-Helms (she/her) has a passion for working with young adults and seeing them grow into themselves and thrive. In 2018 Tamice established the nonprofit Sub: Culture Incorporated, which seeks to remove social and economic barriers for Black college students. An experienced scholar-practitioner, Tamice holds a Master of Arts in Contextual Outreach and Leadership from Wheaton College as well as a Masters of Arts in Theology from Fuller Theological seminary. In her over 15 years of campus work, Tamice has served as the Director of Student Experience and Engagement at Virginia Union University, Associate Area Director of HBCU Planting and Strategy, and taught numerous undergraduate courses and workshops. Tamice is a Hip-Hop head, a true crime/documentary enthusiast, a pizza lover, and a coffee addict. Tamice lives in Richmond with her spouse Ellison and daughter Harlym. Follow Tamice: Instagram @tamicenamaespeaks Twitter @TamiceNamae Substack https://tamicenamaespeaks.substack.com and www.subcultureinc.org  Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse  Jen Kinney @iamjenkinney produces inverse Podcast

Brian Albert Smith, PhD., grew up in the Midwest but has spent most of his adult life in the East Coast and Mid-Atlantic regions of the US. A brief stint in youth ministry led to seminary and a Ph.D. in Hebrew Bible and Ancient Near East studies. His work at Messiah University has been in Campus Ministries and the department of Biblical, Religious, and Philosophical Studies. In addition to teaching courses in Hebrew Bible and Hermeneutics, he co-directs Thriving Together: Congregations for Racial Justice, which challenges local churches to grapple with central Pennsylvania’s racialized past and respond with new work for justice. Brian has a deep fondness for trees and woodworking and enjoys life with his partner Jackie, whom he married this past summer.     Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse  Inverse Podcast is produced by Jen Kinney @iamjenkinney

DON GOLDEN IS A HUMANITARIAN, PASTOR, AND THE FOUNDER OF JUST CAPITAL QUOTIENT, A CONSULTANCY HELPING THRIVING BUSINESSES BECOME FORCES FOR GOOD. AFTER 30 YEARS OF WORKING IN THE MOST CHALLENGING HUMANITARIAN CONTEXTS, DON IS CONVINCED THAT A NEW ECONOMY IS WHAT THE WORLD NEEDS MOST. DON AND JCQ ARE PREACHING THIS NEW ECONOMY AND THEIR CLIENTS ARE LISTENING AND BECOMING MORE COMPETITIVE AND PROFITABLE IN THE PROCESS.HE IS THE CO-AUTHOR OF JESUS WANTS TO SAVE CHRISTIANS WITH ROB BELL. YOU MAY HAVE SEEN HIM IN HUFFINGTON POST, THE NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, OR NPR. IN ADDITION TO HIS WORK WITH JCQ, HE IS THE CHIEF IMPACT OFFICER AT THREEFOLD PRIVATE EQUITY.   Follow Don on Twitter @donrgolden.    Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse  Inverse Podcast is produced by Jen Kinney @iamjenkinney

Jonny Rashid has been the pastor of Circle of Hope in Philadelphia for more than 10 years. He is an abolitionist and a housing activist. He is an avid cook, who blogs at jonnyrashid.com and hosts Circle of Hope's "Resist and Restore" podcast. He studied journalism, education, and history at Temple University and completed his master's of divinity at Palmer Theological Seminary. His book "Jesus Takes A Side" is out now.     Follow Jonny on Instagram and Twitter @jonnyrashid.    Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse  Inverse Podcast is produced by Jen Kinney @iamjenkinney

Birmingham native Lisa McNair is the younger sister of Denise McNair, one of the four little girls killed in 1963 in the infamous bombing of the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama. After attending public and private schools, Lisa attended college at the University of Alabama, both Tuscaloosa and Birmingham campuses. She worked for 18 years at the Greater Birmingham Convention & Visitors Bureau promoting tourism and was instrumental in assisting with the development of Civil Right Historic Tours in the Greater Birmingham area. Later she spent seven years working full-time in her family’s business, Chris McNair Studios & Art Gallery, and now serves as a professional photographer with her business, Posh Photographers. Lisa worked for 15 years at Hand in Paw, a local nonprofit that provides Animal Assisted Therapy. She blossomed during this time because it allowed her to express her love of serving people and animals. Currently, she is a national public speaker under her own business, Speak Lisa. Lisa shares the story of Denise’s life, her heinous murder, and how it affected her family and the city of Birmingham. As part of that work, she also conducts Anti-Racism workshops where she speaks on racial unity and how we must all remember that as human beings, we have more things in common than we have that are different. Lisa serves on several boards, including the Morgan Project, UAB’s Community and Scientific Action Board (CSAB), Four Little Girls Memorial Fund, and Faith in Action Alabama. On September 13th of this year, Lisa became a published author with her book, Dear Denise: Letters to the Sister I Never Knew, published by UA Press. In this memoir, she opens up and shares, very honestly, her life story in letters she’s written to her late sister Denise. Lisa hopes that the lessons learned from the heinous murder of her sister and others in the Civil Rights Movement will never be forgotten but will remain present to help us remember never to repeat the horrible evilness of that time.   Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse  Inverse Podcast is produced by Jen Kinney @iamjenkinney

Christian de Vietri is an artist known for his large-scale artworks in public spaces and traditional sculptures related to Trika Śaivism. He graduated from the Columbia University MFA program and went on to receive training in ancient Indian Art and Architecture. His artworks have been exhibited, collected, and commissioned internationally for the past 20 years, and he has been the recipient of several awards including Citizen of the Year for his contribution to visual art in Australia. He’s also one of Jarrod’s best mates.   Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse  Inverse Podcast is produced by Jen Kinney @iamjenkinney

Jonathan is the author of The Road Away from God, How to Survive a Shipwreck, and Prototype. He holds degrees from Gardner-Webb University, Pentecostal Theological Seminary (MA), and Duke University (ThM). He speaks at conferences, universities, seminaries, retreats, and churches. His work and/or words have been featured in places like the New York Times, The Atlantic, NPR, Newsweek, Vox, Sojourners, The Huffington Post, Relevant Magazine, and The Journal of Pentecostal Theology. Currently, he lives in Oklahoma City, OK where he serves as Pastor of The Table.   Follow Jonathan on Instagram @jonathanamartin and Twitter @theboyonthebike Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse  Inverse Podcast is produced by Jen Kinney @iamjenkinney    

Dr. David P. Gushee (PhD, Union Theological Seminary, New York) is an ethicist, pastor, author, and advocate. He is the Distinguished University Professor of Christian Ethics at Mercer University, and Chair of Christian Social Ethics at Vrije Universiteit (“Free University”) Amsterdam, and Senior Research Fellow, International Baptist Theological Study Centre. Gushee is the elected Past-President of both the American Academy of Religion and the Society of Christian Ethics, signaling his role as one of America's leading Christian ethicists. He is the author, co-author, editor, or co-editor of more than 25 books and over 175 academic book chapters, journal articles, and reviews. His most recognized works include Introducing Christian Ethics, Righteous Gentiles of the Holocaust, Kingdom Ethics, and The Sacredness of Human Life. With his Changing Our Mind (more than 25,000 sold) and After Evangelicalism, he charts a theological and ethical course for post-evangelical Christians, a course he more personally relates in memoir, Still Christian. Altogether his books have sold over 100,000 copies and been translated into a dozen languages. Over a full 29-year career, he’s been a devoted teacher and mentor as Professor Gushee to college students, seminarians, and PhD students. He’s also led activist efforts on climate, torture, and LGBTQ inclusion, and continues to be a keynote speaker at churches, forums, and universities. For the general media, Gushee has written hundreds of opinion pieces and given interviews to scores of major outlets and podcasts. David and his beloved wife Jeanie live in Atlanta. He is a classic novel reader, world traveler, and tennis player, and awaits a call from his beloved Atlanta Braves to resume the baseball career he abandoned in college.   Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse  Inverse Podcast is produced by Jen Kinney @iamjenkinney

Idelette McVicker Idelette McVicker is the author of Recovering Racists: Dismantling White Supremacy and Reclaiming Our Humanity. She is also the founder of SheLoves Media Society and the Dangerous Women community. She was born as a white, Afrikaans woman in South Africa during the apartheid years, which profoundly shaped her quest for Love, justice, liberation and repair. Before moving to Canada, she worked as a journalist in Taiwan. Idelette is married to Scott and they have three teenagers, two dogs and a restaurant. You can find her at idelette.com, on Twitter at @idelette and on Instagram at @idelettemcvicker To stay up to date on any upcoming Liberation Journeys she’s planning or her personal journey of Repair and Restitution, join Idelette’s newsletter Love Letters for Liberation at idelette.com Author of RECOVERING RACISTS (Brazos Press, Spring 2022) FOUNDER: shelovesmagazine.com and dangerouswomen.org BLOG: idelette.com FACEBOOK: Idelette TWITTER: @idelette INSTAGRAM: @idelettemcvicker Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse  Inverse Podcast is produced by Jen Kinney @iamjenkinney