The Dr. Peter Breggin Hour

Rarely is one of our shows as intricately fascinating and self-disclosing to our guest and ourselves that we cannot adequately describe all that we covered, all that we learned, and all that we began integrating anew into our knowledge as the interview evolved.   Our guest, physician Juliette Engel, was a captive, slave, and experimental subject controlled by the CIA from early childhood until age sixteen. Acting on her own, she then escaped the CIA/MKUltra house of devil worship — a subject we will let her tell you about in the interview. She began her new life as a college student, and to manage her severe post-traumatic stress, she developed amnesia for her horrendous past. As a therapist and researcher, I know this happens, but it requires a powerful mind like Dr. Engel to accomplish it and ultimately to flourish.   Dr. Engel is part of a growing number of people coming forth about their experiences as victims of CIA experiments, which in part were training her to become a part of what I have decided to call, “the global community of abusers without conscience,” a powerful aspect of the global predators and their unholy empires.   Adding incredible background to her personal testimony, she sent us in advance a document released from the National Security Archive on December 23, 2024. The ominous title is “CIA Behavioral Control Experiments Focus of New Scholarly Collection.”   The CIA documents confirm many of Dr. Engel’s memories, which only began to unfold much later, after a life of medical reform work in Russia.   Confirming Our Own Experiences with the Deep State and CIA   One huge confirmation for me and Ginger is how much the CIA was indeed focused on defending and supporting the very kind or torturous and inhuman psychiatric treatments that I began openly opposing in the early 1970s, including lobotomy and other forms of psychosurgery and electroshock (ECT) which I have described as an electrical closed-head lobotomy.   Another insight for me was the similarity between the CIA agents and collaborators, as described in the CIA documents, and the global predators we have described in our book, COVID-19 and the Global Predators: We Are the Prey. This is the same profile we continue to explore in our recent columns about America’s four current empires: the Western Global Empire, the Eastern Global Chinese Communist Empire, the Russian Empire, and the Caliphate Muslim Empire.   These predators, across a broad spectrum of activities, are primarily motivated by a lust for power over other human beings. They also desire wealth, but mostly as a tool for gaining power. What drives them is the desire to exert power over as many people as possible within their sphere, whether it is a political party, a criminal cabal or conspiracy, a government agency, a nation, an empire, or a global governance.   If they did not lust for power, they would not succeed in their goal of dominating, controlling, exploiting, enslaving, or killing as many people as possible. They must also possess extreme cunning and shrewdness to be able to manipulate and exploit so many people and to compete for power among so many other violent, cunning people. Probably above all else, they must be masters of conspiracy, able to seduce or intimidate others into helping them pursue their evil aims.   These predators must lack identification with the people within their own family,  group, nation, or empire, because seizing and growing enormous power usually requires, as history demonstrates, killing competitors in their own families and their own inner circles of co-conspirators, as well as millions of their own people, as demonstrated by apex global predators from Alexander “the Great” to Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and the current leaders of Communist China.   These predators must not allow themselves to genuinely love anyone, because such entanglements and feelings would check or inhibit the kind of evil conduct required for fulfilling their primary lust for power. Ultimately, they must not identify with anyone but themselves.   The following excerpts are taken from the vastly important document that our guest, Juliette Engel, MD, first drew to our attention, “CIA Behavior Control Experiments Focus of New Scholarly Collection.”  [The document lacks page numbers, but the excerpts can be located by means of searching the document:]   Excerpt 1 from the CIA Documents   Asked whether the CIA had tried to identify “techniques of producing retrograde amnesia,” Gottlieb said it was something that they “talked about,” but that he could not “remember any specific projects or specific research mounted in response to that question.” Asked if the CIA ever used “psychosurgery research projects,” Gottlieb said his “remembrance is that they did.”   Excerpt 2   The elevation of Allen Dulles to deputy director of central intelligence in 1951 led to an expansion of BLUEBIRD programs under a new name, ARTICHOKE, and under the direction of Gottlieb at TSS. The new program was to include, among other projects, the development of “gas guns” and “poisons,” and experiments to test whether “monotonous sounds,” “concussion,” “electroshock,” and “induced sleep” could be used as a means to gain “hypnotic control of an individual.”[5]   Excerpt 3   Another prominent MKULTRA “cutout” foundation, the Human Ecology Society, was run by Cornell Medical Center neurologist Dr. Harold Wolff, who wrote an early study of communist brainwashing techniques for Allen Dulles and later partnered with the CIA to develop a combination of drugs and sensory deprivation that could be used to erase the human mind. Among the most extreme MKULTRA projects funded through Wolff’s group were the infamous “depatterning” experiments conducted by Dr. D. Ewen Cameron at the Allan Memorial Institute, a psychiatric hospital at McGill University in Montreal, Canada. Cameron’s methods combined induced sleep, electroshocks, and “psychic driving,” under which drugged subjects were psychologically tortured for weeks or months in an effort to reprogram their minds.   Except 4   While no new techniques had been discovered, presently known mind control techniques described in the attachment include the use of LSD and other drugs, hypnosis, the use of the polygraph, neurosurgery, and electric shock treatments. However, field testing of these techniques has been handicapped by the “inability to provide the medical competence for a final evaluation and for such field testing as the evaluation indicates. Repeated efforts to recruit medical personnel have failed and until recently the CIA Medical Staff has not been in a position to assist.”   Excerpt 5   The response from TSS lists 17 “materials and methods” that the Chemical Division was working to develop, including:   *substances that “promote illogical thinking,” materials that would “render the induction of hypnosis easier” or “enhance its usefulness,” substances that would help individuals to endure “privation, torture and coercion during interrogation” and attempts at ‘brainwashing,’” *“materials and physical methods” to “produce amnesia” and “shock and confusion over extended periods of time,” substances that would “produce physical disablement, including paralysis, *substances that “alter personality structure” or that “produce ‘pure’ euphoria with no subsequent let-down,” and a “knockout pill” for use in surreptitious druggings and to produce amnesia, among other things. [Asterisks and bold added]   Excerpt 6   Gibbons was not fully clear on how the CIA obtained LSD, but most of it came from the Eli Lilly & Company, according to this memo, which “apparently makes a gift of it to CIA.”  [bold added. There are many mentions in the report citing Eli Lilly as the source of massive of amounts of LSD which the CIA then inflicted upon Americans, sometimes as experiments and sometimes for financial gain.]   End of Excerpts   In the current release of CIA documents, many well-known government officials and universities are named as supporting and collaborating with MKUltra and other ghastly CIA experiments. Particularly stunning to me, the CIA bought a new wing for the Georgetown University Hospital, in return for which the CIA was given a special “safe house” inside the medical wing where they were free to inflict their wanton will on involuntary experimental subjects with supportive help from the hospital.   One More Step in Facing the Evil Within   These quotes confirm what I had long suspected and had only limited data to confirm — that the CIA and other government agencies are very protective and supportive of psychosurgery (lobotomy) and electroshock treatment (ECT). They want to research and apply these gross methods of damaging the human brain and mind to facilitate interrogation, to erase memories, to change personalities, and to make people more obedient and robotic. They also want them widely used in society to dumb down and render passive as many people as possible on the way to building the global slave state.   During this interview, we began to more deeply appreciate the involvement of the Deep State in psychiatry and psychology and the strength of their opposition to my reform work going back to the early 1970s. My earliest reform efforts focused on these two treatments, psychosurgery and then electroshock, and finally matured into seeing all psychiatric treatment as an assault on the brain and mind.   In various books and scientific articles, Ginger and I have been pointing to federal agencies pushing lobotomy (DOJ, NIMH), pushing electroshock (CIA, FDA), and pushing psychoactive drugs (FDA, CIA, NIMH, NIH, Department of Education, and others.   Our greatest confrontation with federal agencies came during an intense few years when we educated and organized people to shut down a massive U.S. interagency eugenical program to go into the inner cities to identify supposed biological and genetic causes of violence in black children and youth. The goal was ultimately to justify the widespread diagnosing and drugging of these children, including highly remunerative drugs like antidepressants and stimulants. I had already encountered outright racism, with neurosurgeons and psychiatrists advocating in print for the use of psychosurgery to control the leaders of black uprisings in the 1960s and early 1970s.   We completely defeated the massive eugenics project, causing the cancellation of a major conference and many research projects. We authored a book about it, The War Against Children of Color (1994), which addresses numerous Deep State actors such as the CDC, Department of Justice, FBI, NIMH, NIH, DHHS, and PHS, and names many perpetrators. But we had not yet seen the globalist scope of these activities. Here are links to a few articles about our successful efforts to stop the federal eugenics program.   The Role of Psychiatry in Nazi Germany and the U.S. Violence Initiative. This link contains the written introduction and historical video of Dr. Peter Breggin’s presentation to Black leaders and community members in Harlem in the early 1990s about the federal government’s plans to biologically “prevent violence” by identifying and drugging Black toddlers and children—a plan ultimately stopped due to the Breggins’ exposure of the eugenics program. A biomedical programme for urban violence control in the US: the dangers of psychiatric social control; by Peter R Breggin and Ginger Ross Breggin Letter to the Editor, The New York Times by Peter R. Breggin, M.D.: U.S. Hasn’t Given Up Linking Genes to Crime.  Excerpt: “Dr. Goodwin estimates that 100,000 children, as young as 5, will be identified for psychiatric interventions. He called the violence initiative the No. 1 funding priority for the Federal mental health establishment in 1994. My organization has since obtained documentation that millions of dollars of Federal funds are being spent on violence initiative research and planning, including studies of both rhesus monkeys and inner-city children. Newly developed psychiatric drugs are being tested for violence prevention in monkey studies, and some psychiatrists are claiming they can be used in humans for the same purpose. It seems inevitable that the violence initiative will involve administering the same drugs to inner-city children. The widespread use of Ritalin to control aggressive children, frequently supported or initiated by public schools, has set a precedent for pharmacological intervention.” Disposable Children in Black Faces: The Violence Initiative as Inner-City Containment Policy; Alfreda A. Sellers-Diamond, UMKC Law Review, 1994. Campaigns Against Racist Federal Programs by the Center for the Study of Psychiatry and Psychology; Peter R. Breggin, Journal of African American Men, 1995. NIH, under fire, freezes grant for conference on genetics and crime; Nature, Vol. 358, 30 July 1992, p357.   It was further hammered home to me in the interview with Dr. Engel that the kinds of individuals who are cunning enough and violent enough to run totalitarian nations and empires have their counterparts running amok within many federal agencies and many other American institutions. And that is the force from within that we are fighting today as we stand up for freedom in America. We must face a former national leadership, and a current Deep State and other institutions riddled with the worst human beings we can imagine and understand — or we will remain vastly hampered in fighting them.     ______   Learn more about Dr. Peter Breggin's work: https://breggin.com/   See more from Dr. Breggin's long history of being a reformer in psychiatry: https://breggin.com/Psychiatry-as-an-Instrument-of-Social-and-Political-Control   Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal, the how-to manual @ https://breggin.com/a-guide-for-prescribers-therapists-patients-and-their-families/   Get a copy of Dr. Breggin's latest book: WHO ARE THE “THEY” - THESE GLOBAL PREDATORS? WHAT ARE THEIR MOTIVES AND THEIR PLANS FOR US? HOW CAN WE DEFEND AGAINST THEM? Covid-19 and the Global Predators: We are the Prey Get a copy: https://www.wearetheprey.com/   “No other book so comprehensively covers the details of COVID-19 criminal conduct as well as its origins in a network of global predators seeking wealth and power at the expense of human freedom and prosperity, under cover of false public health policies.”   ~ Robert F Kennedy, Jr Author of #1 bestseller The Real Anthony Fauci and Founder, Chairman and Chief Legal Counsel for Children’s Health Defense.

Kirk Moore, MD, is a plastic surgeon who literally stands for “truth, beauty, and goodness.” He is a genuine American hero. Many of us admire Dr. Moore for protecting his patients, children, and adults, by giving them medical certificates stating he had given them the Covid jab when he had not. Following the Hippocratic Oath of “Do no harm,” Dr. Moore saved people from death and an infinite number of other harms, including heart disease, neurologic disease, sterility and miscarriages, cancers, impaired cognition and emotional control, and the passing on of newly defective genes.   Dr. Moore was not only saving the people themselves from the deadly shots, but he was also helping everyone who relied upon them or loved them. If we look at who was most affected by the mandates and hence came to him for the certificates, many would have been among the most harmed by the mandates, such as healthcare providers and emergency responders. And he was saving children who needed the protection of adults against medical abuse.   Dr. Moore was charged with enough crimes by the Biden administration to put him in prison for 35 years, beyond the average lifespan of a 59-year-old man. Then, despite public outrage among Trump supporters, the Trump Administration went along with having Dr. Moore hauled into a courtroom and put on trial. Finally, after five days of grueling trial, Attorney General Pam Bondi issued a statement that the trial was ending, and the government would not be allowed to bring any further trials.   A major question quickly entered our minds: “Was the Trump administration protecting the vaccine instead of Dr. Moore by ending the trial?”   This aligns with the agreement forced on Dr. Moore, which prohibited him from suing the government for financial or other damages. These damages were enormous, stemming from both his practice and his attorney fees, including five grueling days of trial. Did the government do this because they wanted to avoid a new trial where, unlike the current trial, Dr. Moore would be allowed to bring in his own experts on how damaging the COVID jabs were? The judge had thus far prohibited Dr. Moore from bringing in his own medical and scientific experts to confirm how dangerous the vaccines were, and Dr. Moore might have the opportunity if he brought his own case against the government.   Then we interviewed Sasha Latypova — a researcher whom we deeply respect. Both Sasha and Katherine Watt, another researcher we deeply respect, were consultants to Dr. Moore leading up to the trial, and he tells us in the interview how appreciative he is of them and their contributions. Sasha, in her interview, told us that the government had made many mistakes, potentially forcing the judge to take the restraints off Dr. Moore and his team, who wanted to question witnesses about how bad the vaccines are. But in talking with Dr. Moore, who clearly feels grateful for the Trump administration finally intervening on his side, there was more at stake than we thought in regard to protecting the vaccines.   As Dr. Moore described the events of the five days in the final part of this new interview with us, we could see a change in his own analysis. As the last few days of the trial unraveled, it began to dawn on all of us that he could have won the trial!   The government was not only trying to stop further discovery about how bad the vaccines were, but the government must also have become afraid that they could actually lose the jury trial. Not only being able to do discovery in ways that never have been done before, but also winning a jury trial for a doctor who defied the government’s attempt to control his relationship with his physician, would have reaffirmed the basic medical ethics that Covid-19 utterly wrecked.   A victory by Dr. Moore would have helped to restore the sacredness of the doctor-patient relationship, the right and necessity of doctors to give informed consent, and to do their best not to harm their patients, even if ordered by the government to harm them.   Dr. Moore set a clear and heroic example as a physician who put his ethics and his patients’ well-being ahead of the powers of government. That’s potentially earth-shaking. And this isn’t David merely fighting another larger mortal named Goliath; it is David against Leviathan, the whale of the entire government, seeking to devour us humans one by one.   As I mentioned earlier, Ginger and I had already concluded that the only reason Attorney General Bondi stopped the trial was the growing possibility that Dr. Moore and his attorneys would get the right to do discovery on how evil the Covid project was, especially its “vaccines.” In other words, President Donald Trump did not want the public learning more about how bad the vaccines are. I had already written a Substack to that conclusion based on our interview with Shasha Latypova, who was a consultant to the trial, a researcher who Dr. Moore also deeply appreciates.   I asked Dr. Moore before the show if I could raise questions about bad motivations on the part of the Trump Administration, letting the trial even start, then stopping it abruptly. He said it was fine to discuss it, and we did this in the final segment of the show.   As you listen to the final segment, you may get the impression that Dr. Moore, good man that he is, and grateful to the President as well, only reluctantly wants to support what comes out. What comes out is this: Dr. Moore and his team not only stood a good chance of getting to do discovery on how bad the shots are, they were making so many good points, they might even have won the trial.   Trump really is protecting not only Operation Warp Speed, but also continuing to market the same mRNA genetic shots. Indeed, he is probably protecting the deadly mRNA platforms’ billion-dollar industry that is being created to produce a seemingly endless variety of products and uses to be injected into our bodies.   This is a national emergency, not a mere political disagreement. The Trump administration’s healthcare policies, as announced by Robert F. Kennedy, include wearables (chips that can go over your skin or under it). Along with that action, RFK is now announcing a fully digitalized universal medical records system that is the last great step toward complete medical surveillance of everyone, to be followed by socialized medicine, to be followed by an even more totalitarian government.   We need to gain courage from the actions of heroes and patriots like Dr. Kirk Moore and resist every effort to trample upon our Constitutional rights and our God-given freedoms.

There is no better argument against socialism and Communism than to speak to someone who has grown up and lived through the oppression. Dr. Ileana Johnson Paugh has spent much of her life educating Americans about the true nature of collectivism. She describes living under Communism in Romania after the USSR imposed it on her people. There is a vivid story about how the dictatorship allowed the churches to remain, but as stooges of the Communist regime. On one occasion, an American charity donated Bibles to the church, when no one could actually have a Bible under the Communist regime. The dictatorship seized the Bibles and turned them into toilet paper. But the technology for making new paper was so poor that, thereafter, citizens kept receiving toilet paper through which the words of the Bible could be seen. I’m going to put that anecdote into our next book about freedom and love in Western Civilization versus freedom and love under dictatorships, kingdoms, and empires.   Dr. Paugh has authored many books whose titles invite them to be read. Here’s a sample: Echoes of Communism (her life under Communism), Liberty on Life Support (under Obama), and U.N. Agenda 21. As a proud naturalized American citizen, she does a great job of helping Americans understand the principles that make it indeed exceptional as a Constitutional Republic and not a democracy.   I talk in the beginning about my own recent spiritual growth, if you would like to keep up with that. Ginger and I are feeling even closer in touch with God’s Spirit of Freedom and God’s Spirit of Love as they have been vested in America, and those spirits seem to be enjoying a renaissance among those we know.    ______   Learn more about Dr. Peter Breggin's work: https://breggin.com/   See more from Dr. Breggin's long history of being a reformer in psychiatry: https://breggin.com/Psychiatry-as-an-Instrument-of-Social-and-Political-Control   Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal, the how-to manual @ https://breggin.com/a-guide-for-prescribers-therapists-patients-and-their-families/   Get a copy of Dr. Breggin's latest book: WHO ARE THE “THEY” - THESE GLOBAL PREDATORS? WHAT ARE THEIR MOTIVES AND THEIR PLANS FOR US? HOW CAN WE DEFEND AGAINST THEM? Covid-19 and the Global Predators: We are the Prey Get a copy: https://www.wearetheprey.com/   “No other book so comprehensively covers the details of COVID-19 criminal conduct as well as its origins in a network of global predators seeking wealth and power at the expense of human freedom and prosperity, under cover of false public health policies.”   ~ Robert F Kennedy, Jr Author of #1 bestseller The Real Anthony Fauci and Founder, Chairman and Chief Legal Counsel for Children’s Health Defense.

Alex Newman! In this interview, he takes us to school on how the United Nations, its agency UNESCO, and its so-called World Court are driving world government and collectivism down each and every one of our throats. He documents how socialism, communism, and collectivism in general are being imposed through brainwashing our children so they cannot think for themselves.   It’s a war against individual rights, individualism, individual freedom, and God. When people talk of human rights, they have no intention of enforcing the rights of individuals to choose what’s good for them with their own individual heart and mind. They never even dare mention the U.S. Declaration of Independence, which states:   We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed…   In the collectivist model of thinking, the Declaration of Independence is considered invalid. There is no God to grant us any individual rights, and in no way do we possess certain unalienable personal rights, such as life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Instead, in their twisted speech and thinking, there are collective “human rights,” which are to be determined and defined by them—the global predators who are forever exploiting, diminishing, and even killing us.   The collectivist assault on America and humanity during COVID-19 was coordinated by Bill Gates, acting in part through the UN and its health agency, the WHO. We document this, along with Gates’ actual Master Plan, in our book, Covid-19 and the Global Predators: We Are the Prey.   In this interview, we further discuss the collectivist brainwashing of our children that has followed a similar pattern starting long before Covid, which has already made us into a dangerously docile nation, vulnerable to such an assault on our individual rights. It again involves Bill Gates and again involves him working with the UN, acting through its education agency, UNESCO. One of their most destructive accomplishments has been imposing the Common Core educational curriculum on every American state. It’s a scheme to replace education for independence with behavioral modification to enforce non-thinking conformity.   In this brilliant presentation by our guest, Alex Newman, the two of us collaborate with him to describe how global predators have been turning America into a collectivist state. Until Donald Trump entered the picture, they were transforming us from the beacons of freedom into victims accepting enslavement.   We also very strongly recommend this show if you want to learn more about the latest of what I call politicopathy imposed on us by politicopaths, especially working through the United Nations.   I haven’t liked talking about the global predators as psychopaths or sociopaths, because they are so much more grandiose and destructive than most of those miscreants, and also because I don’t want ever to use any psychiatric diagnoses, all of which are used to disempower people. But I thought I’d try out politicopaths—powerful megalomaniacal rulers of as many human beings as they can dominate and exploit, enslave, or slaughter.   There have been some notable successes for the Trump administration recently, including rejecting the WHO’s new “international regulations” aimed at dominating the world and announcing plans to withdraw from UNESCO. But there are some notable failures in the Trump administration dealing with “politicopaths”, including the drug companies that make neurotoxic psychiatric drugs and deadly vaccines. It’s an interesting and important discussion that we also touch on.   Share this column and this interview. And go to Alex Newman’s website, where you can learn about and obtain his new book, Indoctrinating America’s Children to Death, endorsed by Peter Hegseth and retired General Mike Flynn.  It’s a freedom fighter’s manual for saving our children from indoctrination by the best-informed person in the world on the subject. Support him in any way you can.       ______   Learn more about Dr. Peter Breggin's work: https://breggin.com/   See more from Dr. Breggin's long history of being a reformer in psychiatry: https://breggin.com/Psychiatry-as-an-Instrument-of-Social-and-Political-Control   Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal, the how-to manual @ https://breggin.com/a-guide-for-prescribers-therapists-patients-and-their-families/   Get a copy of Dr. Breggin's latest book: WHO ARE THE “THEY” - THESE GLOBAL PREDATORS? WHAT ARE THEIR MOTIVES AND THEIR PLANS FOR US? HOW CAN WE DEFEND AGAINST THEM? Covid-19 and the Global Predators: We are the Prey Get a copy: https://www.wearetheprey.com/   “No other book so comprehensively covers the details of COVID-19 criminal conduct as well as its origins in a network of global predators seeking wealth and power at the expense of human freedom and prosperity, under cover of false public health policies.”   ~ Robert F Kennedy, Jr Author of #1 bestseller The Real Anthony Fauci and Founder, Chairman and Chief Legal Counsel for Children’s Health Defense.

Dr. Kirk Moore is a hero of the COVID wars. He administered saline shots instead of COVID vaccines to his patients and issued vaccine cards to them, allowing them to continue with their work or school. In doing so, Dr. Moore preserved the health of his patients and fulfilled his Hippocratic Oath to do no harm. He was subsequently charged by the Biden administration in 2023 with violating laws that resulted in “sabotaging” the rollout of the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines. Appeals to the new Trump administration to pardon the doctor or dismiss the case were ignored, and the trial moved forward.   Jury selection was done, and the discovery phase had begun. The trial had gone on for one week. Officials were being interrogated on the witness stand. Colleagues, patients, friends, and patriots filled the courtroom, and a growing awareness of this ongoing travesty of justice was evident through social media.   Then, in the eleventh hour, the charges were suddenly dropped. US Attorney General Pam Bondi said, “Dr. Moore gave his patients a choice when the federal government refused to do so. He did not deserve the years in prison he was facing. It ends today.” She undoubtedly acted with the approval, if not the insistence, of President Trump. And it really was over, because there was a provision that the government could not bring it again.   At first, it seemed like a miracle. Everyone we know was delighted for Dr. Moore and his loved ones, and so were we.   However, a compromise agreement was forced on Dr. Moore as part of the government’s decision to drop the case: Dr. Moore would NOT be allowed to sue the government for costs.   In addition to the caveat, the whole thing began to look suspicious. There was no ripple effect. Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr’s Health and Human Services was still endorsing the vaccine for large populations of patients. Anyone over 65 years of age was supposed to receive it, as was anyone else who had pre-existing conditions, including pregnant and nursing mothers, and babies 6 months of age and older.   This meant that there were literally hundreds of thousands of patients who ran the risk of being murdered or disabled by lifelong conditions due to the ongoing distribution of the vaccines. A significant number of patients, especially among the elderly, the ill, and pregnant women and their children, would die before their natural time, from heart disease, from a damaged immune system, from miscarriage or stillbirth, to hundreds of other identified adverse effects of the jab.   Was there an increasing awareness in the administration about the damage done by the mRNA vaccines? Was this ending of the trial an acknowledgement of the heroism this physician demonstrated in protecting his patients from the potentially deadly effects of the COVID-19 vaccine? Were we going to see mRNA vaccines suspended and banned? Damaged patients recognized and helped? Charges brought against those responsible for creating and pushing the toxic, deadly mRNA bioweapons upon a gaslit public?   “Trump and Bondi are stopping discovery!”   All of this was puzzling us, until Ginger Breggin realized in a flash, “Trump and Bondi are stopping discovery. They don’t want the public hearing revelations about the COVID-19 and deadly jabs.”   But we remained puzzled about the timing. Why wait so long into the trial before ending it? Was it just to stretch out the punishment of the good doctor and those who care about him, as well as those who want to see a full investigation and rejection of the COVID-19 attack on humanity?   And there was that caveat to the ending of the trial, a compromise demanded by the government — that Dr. Moore agree not to sue.   Enter Sasha Latypova   Our radio interview with Sasha Latypova, released on podcast on July 18, 2025, has helped clarify our understanding of the government’s conduct.   Latypova is a very successful retired pharmaceutical consultant who has become a reformer, initially in response to the travesties of COVID-19. She is now among the very top of vaccine and pharmaceutical experts in the entire health freedom and freedom movement. She, along with another great freedom fighter, Katherine Watt, had helped Dr. Moore’s legal team develop his defense.   In our interview with Latypova, she reports that the judge had initially ruled against Dr. Moore presenting critical information in his defense about the deadliness of the vaccines. The government allowed the trial to begin and continue because it had no fear of COVID-19 disclosures coming to light. Nothing would come up to discredit Trump’s beloved Operation Warp Speed and to bring the global conspiracy crashing down. But the government made a mistake by bringing up one of the suppressed subjects. So the judge now lifted the secrecy of specific materials about the murderous effects of the vaccines that Dr. Moore was refusing to give to his patients. Kirk Moore’s team was about to blow open the whole Covid Murderous Scam.   A Comment by Dr. Breggin   In my legal work as a medical expert, I have testified in cases where judges have ruled out my bringing up information that would harm the other side’s case, and sometimes I have been able to legally get past the prohibition. In a case against St. Elizabeth’s Hospital in Washington, DC, an older man was petitioning for release after decades of horrendous, involuntary incarceration. At the start of the trial, the judge ruled that I could not testify about my findings in the hospital records that the man had been repeatedly sexually abused since he was hospitalized as a teenager, causing his condition to vastly deteriorate over many years of being abused while locked up.   After my direct testimony, in which I was not allowed to discuss the most important issue in the case, the repeated sexual abuse of my client, I now had to face cross-examination by an attorney representing the hospital. During the cross-examination, the increasingly hostile lawyer for the hospital asked me in a sneering fashion, thinking he would trap me in front of the jury, “If the patient is not schizophrenic as every hospital doctor has diagnosed him for decades, what’s your diagnosis?”   I responded, “Chronic Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder Due to Repeated Sexual Abuse in the Hospital.” Of course, the lawyer protested that I had broken the rules, but the judge replied, “You asked him the question, counselor, and he gave an appropriate answer.” The judge ruled that the answer would be allowed, and then I was able to amplify it with the hospital records during re-cross by the victim’s attorney.   Probably because this incriminating material of severe injustice was brought to light, the jury gave the remarkable and unexpected opinion that the man was not mentally ill and that the hospital must find a better, safer placement for him.   From Dr. Peter Breggin’s resume:   1991: In Washington, D.C. in Richey v. St. Elizabeth’s Hospital, an elderly man involuntarily hospitalized since his teenage years and now suffering from post-traumatic dementia brought an action to be released from St. Elizabeths Hospital in DC on the grounds that he was not mentally ill. He chose a jury trial. Dr. Breggin testified that the young man had not been severely disturbed when admitted for problems with truancy but was raped in the hospital, an event leading to a lifetime of incarceration in the institution. Dr. Breggin documented incidents of physical and sexual abuse in the hospital throughout the inmate’s lifetime hospital stay from his teenage to his elder years. Dr. Breggin also testified on the impact of multiple medications, electroshock, repeated sexual abuse, and chronic institutionalization on the man as a teenager, adult, and elder. The jury found for the patient, declaring that he was not mentally ill, and by implication, that he was a victim of chronic, continuing abuse. The judge ordered the hospital to facilitate his release to a less restrictive environment.   We believe the Trump administration stopped the case against Dr. Kirk Moore precisely in order to prevent shocking discoveries which would have finally shed public light on Covid jab deaths and destruction, and the massive global coverup. And that is also why they had to stop Dr. Moore from bringing another embarrassing case, asking to be refunded his enormous costs from the legal fees and his loss of income.   The only explanation that makes sense is that the charges against Dr. Kirk Moore were dropped to avoid discovery under oath in a court of law of officials who had participated in the greatest product liability negligence and fraud cases in the history of medicine — virtual mass murder.   We, the American people, are witnesses to the Trump regime becoming coconspirators in the ongoing program to destroy freedom and human life under the fraudulent banner of public health responses to pandemics. The global predators behind all this are clearly planning to do this to us again and again as a major bioweapon against humanity and human freedom.   In this amazing interview with Sasha Latypova, she describes another case in which she is involved, in this other case not only as a consultant but as a potential expert witness. The new case is Dutch, and it’s against Bill Gates and other “vaccine” masterminds for genocide!   Latypova describes chilling factors surrounding the case in Europe that will confirm her incredible courage and honesty in participating, while it re-emphasizes that the governing powers across the Western World are intent on protecting COVID-19 as a model for keeping us in line, while depopulating us and weakening our resistance to them.   A Final Comment by Ginger Breggin   Prior to Dr. Moore’s trial, we had already watched with dismay as the FDA, under Secretary Kennedy’s leadership, approved a new Moderna vaccine. Truth be told, I should have seen it then. A lifetime ago, in my own childhood, an epidemic of birth defects that were both shocking and profound emerged. Newborn infants, with severely foreshortened arms or legs, sometimes missing altogether, or with other damage to eyes, ears, genitals, or internal organs, faced a lifetime of challenges. Some babies were so badly deformed that they could not survive, dying shortly after birth. The causative drug, thalidomide, was pulled from the global market. It took the individual courage and tenacity of Dr. Frances Oldham Kelsey, a physician and reviewer in the FDA, to ensure the drug was never approved for use in the United States, and thus only 17 cases emerged domestically.   This time, despite the disastrous and continuing rise in deaths and injuries from the mRNA vaccines, there is only denial. Surviving victims of the rollout of the COVID jab have been ignored and pushed aside, unacknowledged by the very agencies tasked with guarding the health of Americans. Instead of preventing an epidemic (which was never the threat we were told it would be) the supposed ‘solution’ foisted upon us in a time of great fear has caused an epidemic of sudden deaths, turbo cancers, deadly white “clots” that were never before seen, heart attacks, heart failure, neurological disabilities, immune system failures, and untold suffering by patients and their families. And all of this is denied and covered up by our government.   The People of America Will Have to Push for an mRNA Ban   The push to abolish these toxic and deadly agents will have to come from the people of America. We are seeing in other arenas that the President of the United States does respond to his base and to his cabinet members. The push must come from the cabinet members involved, not downward from the President of the United States. Especially where the technology is as specialized as in medicine and public health, it is up to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and his HHS officials and staff to inform and educate President Trump about the destruction and damage caused by mRNA vaccines and the mRNA platforms that are being massively pushed by the global predators. Trump’s advisors owe it to him and to humanity, and otherwise they become coconspirators to their own future genocide trials.   We must demand that the government acknowledge the COVID-19 jab deaths and widespread harms and stop all human experiments using mRNA genetic platforms. We must demand that the government acknowledge the wounded and help to ease the burdens of the adverse effects inflicted upon them. The “experiment” should be over. It is time to stop the obvious killing and mayhem. Indeed, the call for further studies on current mRNA vaccines, as RFK Jr. suggested, is a travesty in the face of the great experimentation that turned into a massacre.   We, the wounded, the doctors treating the wounded, the public citizens who have had their eyes opened through the dreadful witnessing of death or disability of loved ones and friends and neighbors — we have to carry the message. We must warn our fellow citizens and demand that the administration — whomever is in office — abandon this toxic, destructive, practice that masquerades as a “treatment.” Nobody is being treated. And millions have already died. For the sake of all Americans and humanity, abandon this madness.   First published on AmericaOutLoud.news July 16, 2025 and July 18, 2025     ______   Learn more about Dr. Peter Breggin's work: https://breggin.com/   See more from Dr. Breggin's long history of being a reformer in psychiatry: https://breggin.com/Psychiatry-as-an-Instrument-of-Social-and-Political-Control   Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal, the how-to manual @ https://breggin.com/a-guide-for-prescribers-therapists-patients-and-their-families/   Get a copy of Dr. Breggin's latest book: WHO ARE THE “THEY” - THESE GLOBAL PREDATORS? WHAT ARE THEIR MOTIVES AND THEIR PLANS FOR US? HOW CAN WE DEFEND AGAINST THEM? Covid-19 and the Global Predators: We are the Prey Get a copy: https://www.wearetheprey.com/   “No other book so comprehensively covers the details of COVID-19 criminal conduct as well as its origins in a network of global predators seeking wealth and power at the expense of human freedom and prosperity, under cover of false public health policies.”   ~ Robert F Kennedy, Jr Author of #1 bestseller The Real Anthony Fauci and Founder, Chairman and Chief Legal Counsel for Children’s Health Defense.  

Sherri Tenpenny, our guest today, is an osteopathic physician who was among the very earliest medical doctors to sound the warning about the growing coercive forces pushing dangerous vaccines on America.  She may even be the first!   She was looking at the future dangers of vaccines long before Bill Gates announced The Decade of Vaccines in 2010 and mobilized the greediest, wealthiest predators on Earth to join in exploiting and dominating the world based on vaccinating the world with poisonous injections.  Probably before it entered anyone else’s mind, Dr. Sheri Tenpenny was calling all vaccines “poisons” and demanding a scientific evaluation of them.   As Dr. Tenpenny discussed daring to call vaccines poisons, a remarkable memory from many decades ago came to mind.  I was debating a pediatrician at a conference about giving stimulants to children for so-called ADHD when he tried to be very circumspect, telling me and the audience, “I only actually give them to 3% of the children.” I spontaneously responded, “I wouldn’t know which 3% of children to poison!”   Dr. Tenpenny is an extraordinary physician and individual, and this interview is truly inspiring.  Deeply inspiring!   I first became aware of Dr. Tenpenny very early in 2021, when the COVID-19 jabs were first being introduced, and I heard her warning about a whole range of adverse effects afflicting women and their unborn children. I remember my wife, Ginger, and I turning to each other with looks of “Could this be true?”   Well, it all turned out to be true.   Listen to our interview with this remarkable woman and get to know one of the truly great doctors of our time. And here’s something I rarely say: You should buy her new book, Zero Accountability in a Failed System. It is extremely well-written and easy to understand, yet packed with new and enlightening data about Covid, about vaccines, about the failures of medicine, about the systematic lawmaking that created the Covid catastrophe… and many other things you’ve never before heard of. I keep her book in a special area next to my computer, where I store a few of my most commonly used books, including some that Ginger and I have written.   Dr. Sherri Tenpenny’s new book is Zero Accountability in a Failed System: How Big Pharma Weaponizes Vaccines, Public Health, and the Law. You can find Dr. Tenpenny on her website, DrTenpenny.com, and follow her with over 214,000 followers on X.     ______   Learn more about Dr. Peter Breggin's work: https://breggin.com/   See more from Dr. Breggin's long history of being a reformer in psychiatry: https://breggin.com/Psychiatry-as-an-Instrument-of-Social-and-Political-Control   Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal, the how-to manual @ https://breggin.com/a-guide-for-prescribers-therapists-patients-and-their-families/   Get a copy of Dr. Breggin's latest book: WHO ARE THE “THEY” - THESE GLOBAL PREDATORS? WHAT ARE THEIR MOTIVES AND THEIR PLANS FOR US? HOW CAN WE DEFEND AGAINST THEM? Covid-19 and the Global Predators: We are the Prey Get a copy: https://www.wearetheprey.com/   “No other book so comprehensively covers the details of COVID-19 criminal conduct as well as its origins in a network of global predators seeking wealth and power at the expense of human freedom and prosperity, under cover of false public health policies.”   ~ Robert F Kennedy, Jr Author of #1 bestseller The Real Anthony Fauci and Founder, Chairman and Chief Legal Counsel for Children’s Health Defense.

Hero former sheriff Richard Mack joins us in a very enlightening discussion about “How can America regain its Constitutional foundations in freedom?” We also celebrate his book “Are You a David?”   One of our favorite guests, Sheriff Mack, did something men or women rarely do—he took on his colleagues to push them to stand up for themselves at their best and to live and work by their highest ideals on behalf of freedom for American citizens. Sheriff Mack points out that sheriffs are the only law enforcement officers elected by the people and are directly responsible to them to defend their Constitutional rights and well-being. He and his organization are empowering sheriffs around the country to defend the rights of citizens in their own counties, even against police, judges, and the federal government when they break the law or trample on Constitutional rights.   He is the Founder and President of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, giving seminars around the country. He appears across a wide range of media, including CNN, Fox, Newsweek, and The New York Times. He is a no-nonsense truth teller and freedom fighter who is great to interview.   One of his more stunning accomplishments was to become the first sheriff in American history to sue the federal government on behalf of the rights of the people in his country. In Mack/Prinz v. U.S., the Supreme Court supported his right to refuse to impose background checks for gun owner licenses on the grounds that they were unconstitutional.   We have a tremendous discussion about each of the above issues, all focused on supporting freedom in America and the world. In the third and final segment, Sheriff Mack, Ginger Breggin, and I support President Trump’s actions in bombing Iran’s nuclear facilities. However, I raise a question about the numerous presidents in a row who have started wars, when declaring a State of War is assigned to Congress, not the President or anyone else.   Will President Trump’s enormously successful attack on Iran dangerously further the war-making potential for future presidents, especially when the Deep State, the Military-Industrial Complex, banking, and so many others thrive on war, while weak Congresses rarely take a stand on anything? In rebuilding America, we are making available so much more power to future U.S. Presidents. In that not-too-distant future, unscrupulous leaders could once again become ambitious to create the American Global Empire.   As a barrier to future tyranny, we need to re-establish that Congress, and only Congress, can declare wars– which essentially means that only Congress can start a war!   ______   Learn more about Dr. Peter Breggin's work: https://breggin.com/   See more from Dr. Breggin's long history of being a reformer in psychiatry: https://breggin.com/Psychiatry-as-an-Instrument-of-Social-and-Political-Control   Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal, the how-to manual @ https://breggin.com/a-guide-for-prescribers-therapists-patients-and-their-families/   Get a copy of Dr. Breggin's latest book: WHO ARE THE “THEY” - THESE GLOBAL PREDATORS? WHAT ARE THEIR MOTIVES AND THEIR PLANS FOR US? HOW CAN WE DEFEND AGAINST THEM? Covid-19 and the Global Predators: We are the Prey Get a copy: https://www.wearetheprey.com/   “No other book so comprehensively covers the details of COVID-19 criminal conduct as well as its origins in a network of global predators seeking wealth and power at the expense of human freedom and prosperity, under cover of false public health policies.”   ~ Robert F Kennedy, Jr Author of #1 bestseller The Real Anthony Fauci and Founder, Chairman and Chief Legal Counsel for Children’s Health Defense.

Patrick Hahn, PhD, is one of the world’s best critics of psychiatric drugs and the medical model for human suffering, as well as an advocate for more caring approaches to therapy.   When COVID-19 came along, he knew that another medical or biological fraud was being foisted upon the world. If you are unfamiliar with his work, it’s because he is so scientifically accurate and so straightforward in his communications that the elite don’t want you to know who he is.   His books include, among others, Prescription for Sorrow, Madness and Genetic Determinism, Obedience Pills, and The Day the Science Died: Covid Vaccines and the Power of Fear. His latest book, now as an editor, is Never the Same: Unheard Stories of the Covid Vaccine Injured.   Any of us can learn from any of these great books, and I cannot exaggerate the quality of his research and writing. It combines his keen scientific knowledge with his interest in the stories of real human beings.   Beyond all that, Patrick is simply a wise and thoughtful man and scientist. Our interview today, which ranges from psychiatric drugs to the American Empire and international banking, makes for one of our most interesting interviews.   ______   Learn more about Dr. Peter Breggin's work: https://breggin.com/   See more from Dr. Breggin's long history of being a reformer in psychiatry: https://breggin.com/Psychiatry-as-an-Instrument-of-Social-and-Political-Control   Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal, the how-to manual @ https://breggin.com/a-guide-for-prescribers-therapists-patients-and-their-families/   Get a copy of Dr. Breggin's latest book: WHO ARE THE “THEY” - THESE GLOBAL PREDATORS? WHAT ARE THEIR MOTIVES AND THEIR PLANS FOR US? HOW CAN WE DEFEND AGAINST THEM? Covid-19 and the Global Predators: We are the Prey Get a copy: https://www.wearetheprey.com/   “No other book so comprehensively covers the details of COVID-19 criminal conduct as well as its origins in a network of global predators seeking wealth and power at the expense of human freedom and prosperity, under cover of false public health policies.”   ~ Robert F Kennedy, Jr Author of #1 bestseller The Real Anthony Fauci and Founder, Chairman and Chief Legal Counsel for Children’s Health Defense.

James Thorp, MD, more than any other doctor, has devoted himself to saving the unborn and the newborn from death by the COVID jabs. He has also fought to save them from unspeakable physical and genetic harm. In addition, he has saved their mothers and fathers from the tragedy of dealing with the death and injury to their babies.   James Thorp is one of the most remarkable doctors in the world today. He is unique in the courage and determination he has shown in facing the outrage of his demented colleagues in obstetrics and gynecology, who have accepted and even promoted the slaughter of the most vulnerable humans on Earth.   I am proud to have endorsed Dr. Thorp’s new book, titled Sacrifice: How the Deadliest Vaccine in History Targeted the Most Vulnerable. The array of endorsements confirms the importance of his work, including U.S. Senator Ron Johnson, Peter McCullough MD, Dr. Naomi Wolf, Steven Hatfill MD, Dr. Drew Pinsky, and Alex Jones.   Alex Jones wrote, “A True Hero Among Us, Dr. James Thorp speaks against the ‘COVID Vaccine,’ calling it the ‘Highest Kill Rate in History.’ His brave words saved countless lives. Thank you for being a Guardian Angel to the vulnerable.”   A Guardian Angel to the Vulnerable! Ginger and I endorse this assessment of James Thorp.   This interview expresses our most personal reactions to enduring the massive collapse of our medical profession from the onset of COVID-19 and continuing today. The interview brings out a broad array of insights into the personal, political, scientific, and spiritual aspects of our lives.     ______   Learn more about Dr. Peter Breggin's work: https://breggin.com/   See more from Dr. Breggin's long history of being a reformer in psychiatry: https://breggin.com/Psychiatry-as-an-Instrument-of-Social-and-Political-Control   Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal, the how-to manual @ https://breggin.com/a-guide-for-prescribers-therapists-patients-and-their-families/   Get a copy of Dr. Breggin's latest book: WHO ARE THE “THEY” - THESE GLOBAL PREDATORS? WHAT ARE THEIR MOTIVES AND THEIR PLANS FOR US? HOW CAN WE DEFEND AGAINST THEM? Covid-19 and the Global Predators: We are the Prey Get a copy: https://www.wearetheprey.com/   “No other book so comprehensively covers the details of COVID-19 criminal conduct as well as its origins in a network of global predators seeking wealth and power at the expense of human freedom and prosperity, under cover of false public health policies.”   ~ Robert F Kennedy, Jr Author of #1 bestseller The Real Anthony Fauci and Founder, Chairman and Chief Legal Counsel for Children’s Health Defense.  

Of all the people we regularly interview, Steve Miller, the Los Angeles filmmaker and journalist (not the other Steve Miller from DC) is among the most fun, the most surprisingly insightful, the brightest, and even good-natured. It’s within that warm and even humorous context that we discuss some of the most horrific and important issues in the world today and forever.   It starts with riots in Steve’s hometown and then goes on to:   “Why do they want to destroy America?” “What do the predators all have in common?” “What’s the single best thing that can be done to stop them?” “When we cut through all the distractions, what’s right in front of our eyes?”   Join us with our friend Steve Miller. You may feel like you’re making a friend, and you’re bound to hear something that’s new and different.   ______   Learn more about Dr. Peter Breggin's work: https://breggin.com/   See more from Dr. Breggin's long history of being a reformer in psychiatry: https://breggin.com/Psychiatry-as-an-Instrument-of-Social-and-Political-Control   Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal, the how-to manual @ https://breggin.com/a-guide-for-prescribers-therapists-patients-and-their-families/   Get a copy of Dr. Breggin's latest book: WHO ARE THE “THEY” - THESE GLOBAL PREDATORS? WHAT ARE THEIR MOTIVES AND THEIR PLANS FOR US? HOW CAN WE DEFEND AGAINST THEM? Covid-19 and the Global Predators: We are the Prey Get a copy: https://www.wearetheprey.com/   “No other book so comprehensively covers the details of COVID-19 criminal conduct as well as its origins in a network of global predators seeking wealth and power at the expense of human freedom and prosperity, under cover of false public health policies.”   ~ Robert F Kennedy, Jr Author of #1 bestseller The Real Anthony Fauci and Founder, Chairman and Chief Legal Counsel for Children’s Health Defense.