
Primary Technology
Tech news that matters for everyone to understand. Our hosts break down the most important stories, from consumer tech and gadgets, to AI and beyond. Stephen Robles is a content creator with over 100K on YouTube, and Jason Aten is a technology columnist at Inc.com having written in the past for Business Insider and The Chicago Tribune. Tune in every Thursday for new episodes.
Latest episodes

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Jun 4, 2025 • 1h 7min
WWDC Wishlist for iOS 26 and macOS, Shortcuts Rumors, No Apple Execs at Gruber’s Live Talk Show
A notable absence of Apple executives at a major talk show raises eyebrows as the hosts share their wishlists for iOS 26 and macOS Tahoe ahead of WWDC. They dive into exciting rumors about a revamped Shortcuts app and explore the potential for enhanced iPadOS features. Lighthearted discussions about parenting and tech mishaps add humor, while debates on app management and seamless email transitions keep the tech talk lively. Insights into automation and productivity draw connections to user experiences, making for an engaging listen!

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May 29, 2025 • 1h 16min
iOS ’26 Rebrand, Sky AI App on Mac, What Apple Intelligence Could’ve Been
There’s buzz about Apple potentially rebranding iOS to reflect the year, enhancing clarity in its operating systems. The Sky AI app for Mac is explored, showcasing what Apple Intelligence could become. The conversation dives into privacy, the need for cohesive software integration, and user frustrations especially with Siri. Strategies for managing app notifications are discussed, highlighting both the annoyances and the advantages of alerts in daily life. Finally, AI’s evolving role across platforms and productivity tools is a recurring theme.

May 22, 2025 • 60min
OpenAI and Jony Ive Join Forces, Google I/O Highlights, Hands-On with Android XR Smart Glasses
OpenAI has teamed up with Jony Ive to revolutionize hardware design, aiming for innovations by 2026. The podcast dives into Google I/O highlights, showcasing AI advancements with the Gemini app. Jason gives a hands-on review of Android XR smart glasses, featuring live augmented reality demos with real-time translation. Discussions also touch on the design challenges of AR glasses and the evolving dynamics of AI in entertainment, all while navigating user experiences and potential market impacts.

May 15, 2025 • 1h 20min
You Can Now Airbnb More than Travel, Galaxy S25 Edge, M4 Max Mac Studio Review
Airbnb held a live event showing off a new app with experiences and social features, Jason was there live, iOS 18.5 shows Apple hasn’t forgot about Screen Time, Android 16's Material Three redesign, Samsung Starts the thin phone wars, and Stephen reviews his new M4 Max Mac Studio!Take the Primary Tech member benefit poll here!Bonus Episode: Jason keeps meeting famous people, Stephen reviews the Teenage Engineering mic. Listen here!Sponsored by:Insta360 X5: Get the new Insta360 X5 camera with user replaceable lens, longer battery life, and 8K video! Use promo code PRIMARY at checkout: https://store.insta360.com/product/x51Password: 1Password Extended Access Management is the first security solution that brings all those unmanaged devices, apps, and identities under your control. Learn more at: 1password.com/primarytechShow Notes via EmailSign up to get exactly one email per week from the Primary Tech guys with the full episode show notes for your perusal. Click here to subscribe.Watch on YouTube!Subscribe and watch our weekly episodes plus bonus clips at: https://youtu.be/TD75XBG3lJIJoin the CommunityDiscuss new episodes, start your own conversation, and join the Primary Tech community here: social.primarytech.fmSupport the showGet ad-free versions of the show plus exclusive bonus episodes every week! Subscribe directly in Apple Podcasts or here if you want chapters: primarytech.memberful.com/joinReach out:Stephen's YouTube Channel@stephenrobles on ThreadsStephen on BlueskyStephen on Mastodon@stephenrobles on XJason's Inc.com Articles@jasonaten on Threads@JasonAten on XJason on BlueskyJason on MastodonWe would also appreciate a 5-star rating and review in Apple Podcasts and SpotifyPodcast artwork with help from Basic Apple Guy.Those interested in sponsoring the show can reach out to us at: podcast@primarytech.fmLinks from the showAirbnb’s new app has all of your vacation extras in one place | The VergeAirbnb Just Radically Changed Travel Again. Here’s How.Things to Do in Miami | 5-Star Authentic Experiences5 NEW iOS 18.5 Features - HUGE for Parents - YouTubeApple brings insights, ratings, and reviews from expert sources to Apple Maps - AppleGoogle updating its ‘G’ icon for the first time in 10 yearsFile:Apple first logo.png - WikipediaAndroid 16 Material Three Expressive UI coming in beta this month | The VergeWear OS 6 puts Google Gemini on your wrist | The VergeSamsung Galaxy S25 Edge - YouTubeApple unveils powerful accessibility features coming later this year - AppleUniversal Music Group and Apple Music announce Sound Therapy - ApplevisionOS 3 will let you scroll apps using only your eyes, per report - 9to5MacGoogle’s Annoying Plan to Get You to Quit Safari Is a Lesson in How Not to Treat Your UsersWarner Bros. Discovery Just Undid 1 of The Worst Brand Mistakes I’ve Ever Seen
(00:00) - Intro
(05:08) - Big Airbnb Event
(18:05) - Apple and Live Events
(26:25) - iOS 18.5 Features
(30:11) - Apple Maps Upgrade
(35:04) - Sponsor: Insta360 X5
(37:09) - Sponsor: 1Password
(39:19) - Google "Rebrand"
(43:23) - Android 16 Redesign
(48:53) - Samsung Galaxy S25 Edge
(50:47) - iOS 19 Accessibility Features
(57:41) - Apple Rumor Inflation
(01:00:07) - Google Search Hostility
(01:05:27) - HBO NOW PLUS MAX PRO
(01:07:44) - M4 Max Mac Studio Review
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May 8, 2025 • 1h 26min
John Gruber on AI Replacing iPhone in 10 Years, Google vs AI Search in Safari, and Siri at WWDC
John Gruber, the insightful writer behind Daring Fireball and host of The Talk Show, joins the conversation to dissect the future of technology. They discuss Eddy Cue's bold prediction about AI usurping the iPhone in a decade and explore the implications of AI search integration in Safari. The dialogue also dives into the ongoing tensions surrounding Apple's App Store policies and expectations for Siri's evolution at WWDC 2025, all while maintaining a light-hearted tone.

May 1, 2025 • 1h 19min
Apple Broke the Law, I Was Deepfaked, and Even the Beach Has Ads
Epic Games got a huge win against Apple, what it means for the App Store and Tim Cook’s leadership, Meta's new Llama 4 AI chat app for iOS, Take It Down Act tries to tackle deepfakes, and Amazon refurb iPhones may be a scam.Take the Primary Tech member benefit poll here!Bonus Episode: Stephen’s Top Secret Trip, Listen here!Show Notes via EmailSign up to get exactly one email per week from the Primary Tech guys with the full episode show notes for your perusal. Click here to subscribe.Watch on YouTube!Subscribe and watch our weekly episodes plus bonus clips at: https://youtu.be/UoA3MKS4XRcJoin the CommunityDiscuss new episodes, start your own conversation, and join the Primary Tech community here: social.primarytech.fmSupport the showGet ad-free versions of the show plus exclusive bonus episodes every week! Subscribe directly in Apple Podcasts or here if you want chapters: primarytech.memberful.com/joinReach out:Stephen's YouTube Channel@stephenrobles on ThreadsStephen on BlueskyStephen on Mastodon@stephenrobles on XJason's Inc.com Articles@jasonaten on Threads@JasonAten on XJason on BlueskyJason on MastodonWe would also appreciate a 5-star rating and review in Apple Podcasts and SpotifyPodcast artwork with help from Basic Apple Guy.Those interested in sponsoring the show can reach out to us at: podcast@primarytech.fmLinks from the showA judge just blew up Apple’s control of the App Store | The VergeTim Sweeny’s Victory LapEpic win: Apple forced to give developers (almost) free reign to link out and avoid paying Apple's 30% cut - 9to5MacYvonne Gonzalez Rogers - Practicalities of Modern Patent Litigation Conference Practicalities of Modern Patent Litigation ConferenceDaring Fireball: Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers Rules, in Excoriating Decision, That Apple Violated Her 2021 Court Order Regarding App Store Anti-Steering ProvisionsChatGPT is getting better for shopping | The VergeOpenAI says its GPT-4o update could be ‘uncomfortable, unsettling, and cause distress’ | The VergeMeta launches standalone AI chat app based on Llama 4 for iPhone and iPad - 9to5MacMark Zuckerberg is planning a premium tier and ads for Meta’s AI app | The VergeSnapshot on AppleAmazon Considered Displaying Tariff Charges on Its Ultracheap ‘Haul’ Site - WSJCongress passes Take It Down Act to fight deepfake nudes, revenge porn - The Washington PostRaycast for iOSWhy the lettering on Pope Francis's tomb looks so bad - Fast CompanyAccessibility - Apple
(00:00) - Intro
(03:16) - Apple Broke the Law
(05:44) - Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers
(09:04) - Epic v Apple Trial
(13:38) - Cook Chose Poorly
(15:45) - Apple VP LIED Under Oath
(20:26) - Phil Schiller Voice of Reason
(31:27) - What It Means for Apple
(37:31) - ChatGPT Shopping
(40:08) - Meta’s AI App
(41:50) - Even the Beach Has Ads
(44:46) - Apple Snapshot
(47:56) - Amazon Tariff Pricing
(50:46) - I Was Deepfaked
(58:31) - Raycast iPhone App
(01:00:00) - The Pope's Kerning
(01:02:07) - Stephen Bought a Thing...
(01:05:04) - Amazon Refurb Scam
(01:08:29) - Apple Accessibility is Really Good
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Apr 24, 2025 • 1h 22min
Apple’s Siri Just Lost to Perplexity, iPhone 17 Air Looks Real, Apple Watch 10th Birthday
Discover how Perplexity's voice assistant is outshining Siri, making iPhone interactions smoother. Marvel at the sleek design of the upcoming iPhone 17 Air while pondering Google's recent legal challenges. Celebrate the Apple Watch's incredible 10-year journey, reflecting on its impact. Join a humorous discussion on tech pre-orders and the quirks of navigating the latest gadgets. Plus, enjoy playful games that showcase AI's potential in sports and the value of online verification in today's digital landscape!

Apr 17, 2025 • 1h 22min
OpenAI Social Network, iPadOS 19 to FINALLY Transform iPad, Apple Ads Are Getting Weird
What could an OpenAI social network look like, ChatGPT 4.1 launched, iPadOS 19 is supposedly going to be more Mac-like (is that even a good thing?), Apple Ads are getting wild, and Mark Zuckerberg defends Meta against the FTC.Bonus Episode: Aliens and Newspapers. Listen here!Membership Benefits PollSponsored by: 1Password1Password Extended Access Management is the first security solution that brings all those unmanaged devices, apps, and identities under your control. Learn more at: 1password.com/primarytechShow Notes via EmailSign up to get exactly one email per week from the Primary Tech guys with the full episode show notes for your perusal. Click here to subscribe.Watch on YouTube!Subscribe and watch our weekly episodes plus bonus clips at: youtube.com/@primarytechshowJoin the CommunityDiscuss new episodes, start your own conversation, and join the Primary Tech community here: social.primarytech.fmSupport the showGet ad-free versions of the show plus exclusive bonus episodes every week! Subscribe directly in Apple Podcasts or here if you want chapters: primarytech.memberful.com/joinReach out:Stephen's YouTube Channel@stephenrobles on ThreadsStephen on BlueskyStephen on Mastodon@stephenrobles on XJason's Inc.com Articles@jasonaten on Threads@JasonAten on XJason on BlueskyJason on MastodonWe would also appreciate a 5-star rating and review in Apple Podcasts and SpotifyPodcast artwork with help from Basic Apple Guy.Those interested in sponsoring the show can reach out to us at: podcast@primarytech.fmLinks from the showOpenAI is building a social network | The VergeOpenAI debuts its GPT-4.1 flagship AI model | The VergeChatGPT can now remember and reference all your previous chats - Ars TechnicaAnthropic is reportedly launching a voice AI you can speak to | The VergeGoogle rolls out its AI video generator to Gemini Advanced subscribers | The VergeI Tested AirPods Max Lossless Audio Blindfolded - Is it Actually Better? - YouTubeLow Glare | Mac does that | Apple - YouTubeApple rebrands Search Ads business as 'Apple Ads' - 9to5MacExtended Access Management – Product | 1PasswordReport: iPadOS 19 to be 'more like macOS' in major overhaul - 9to5MacReport Reveals Internal Chaos Behind Apple's Siri Failure - MacRumorsSmartphones and computers are now exempt from Trump’s latest tariffs | CNN BusinessMeta’s Antitrust Trial Begins as FTC Argues Company Built Social Media Monopoly - The New York TimesFTC presses Zuckerberg to admit he wanted to "neutralize" Instagram app - The Washington PostMeta’s antitrust trial slide redactions aren’t actually hiding anything | The VergeMark Zuckerberg tells court that Meta made WhatsApp, Instagram better | The VergeZoom’s Response to Its Major Outage Is the 1 Thing No Company Should Ever DoNotion Mail
(00:00) - Intro
(03:55) - Current Phone Case
(06:41) - OpenAI Social Network
(15:55) - ChatGPT 4.1 Launch
(18:06) - Claude Voice AI
(19:00) - Gemini Video Generator
(20:45) - AirPods Max Lossless
(23:07) - Apple Ads Getting Weird
(33:19) - Sponsor: 1Password
(35:10) - iPadOS 19 Like Mac?
(47:39) - Apple Intelligence + Siri Fiasco
(57:32) - Tariffs, Blackout, Giant Squid
(01:01:10) - Meta vs FTC
(01:09:23) - Notion Mail
(01:12:02) - ChatGPT IRL
(01:15:45) - Find My Undefeated
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Apr 10, 2025 • 1h 6min
iPhone 17 Pro Leak, 15 Years of iPad, Shopify Requiring Staff to Use AI, How Tariffs Will Affect Apple Pricing
A leaked iPhone 17 Pro case reveals a massive camera bump, Shopify's AI-focused hiring strategy, How tariffs will affect Apple’s pricing, and we get nostalgic looking back at 50 years of Microsoft.Show Notes via EmailSign up to get exactly one email per week from the Primary Tech guys with the full episode show notes for your perusal. Click here to subscribe.Watch on YouTube!Subscribe and watch our weekly episodes plus bonus clips at: https://youtu.be/Jntcg0eOg6oJoin the CommunityDiscuss new episodes, start your own conversation, and join the Primary Tech community here: social.primarytech.fmSupport the showGet ad-free versions of the show plus exclusive bonus episodes every week! Subscribe directly in Apple Podcasts or here if you want chapters: primarytech.memberful.com/joinReach out:Stephen's YouTube Channel@stephenrobles on ThreadsStephen on BlueskyStephen on Mastodon@stephenrobles on XJason's Inc.com Articles@jasonaten on Threads@JasonAten on XJason on BlueskyJason on MastodonWe would also appreciate a 5-star rating and review in Apple Podcasts and SpotifyPodcast artwork with help from Basic Apple Guy.Those interested in sponsoring the show can reach out to us at: podcast@primarytech.fmLinks from the showScary Numbers Severance Inspired Merch - Basic Apple GuyEmergency SOS on Apple Watch | Rick’s Rescue | Apple - YouTubeLeaked iPhone 17 Pro Cases Show Huge Cutout for New Camera Bump - MacRumorsInstagram’s Mosseri Positions App for TikTok Turmoil — The InformationShopify Says No New Hires Unless AI Can’t Do the Job - WSJMeta gets caught gaming AI benchmarks with Llama 4 | The VergeAnthropic steps up OpenAI competition with Max subscription for ClaudeNintendo delays Switch 2 preorders over tariff concerns | The VergeReport: Apple Airlifted Premium Devices to US to Beat Tariff Deadline - MacRumorsApple iPhone Shipment MathTrump extends TikTok deadline for the second timeApple Customers Dash to Stores to Buy iPhones Ahead of Tariffs - BloombergApple reports record revenue for Q1 2025 (with charts) - Six ColorsThe 50 best things Microsoft has ever made | The VergeDell Venue Pro out does HTC, gets updated to 7.8 | Windows CentralWindows Phone 7 Launch Event - YouTubeI Have 20 Years of Digital Files. What Do I Do With Them? - WSJ
(00:00) - Intro
(03:34) - Old Tech
(06:13) - Watch Survivor Story
(07:19) - TV+ The Studio
(09:49) - iPhone 17 Pro Case Leak
(11:47) - Instagram iPad App
(13:26) - iPad Turns 15
(17:17) - Shopify Requiring AI Use
(26:30) - Meta Gaming AI Results
(29:34) - Stephen's Instagram Debacle
(34:57) - Anthropic's $200 Plan
(39:58) - Tariff Time
(42:52) - Apple's Tariff Strategy
(54:44) - 50 Years of Microsoft
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Apr 3, 2025 • 56min
Nintendo Switch 2 Specs and Pre-Order, iOS 18.4 Features, Amazon Bids to Acquire TikTok
Nintendo Switch 2 details plus the elaborate pre-order process, iOS 18.4 is out with new features, new podcast app, tariffs and tech, Amazon bids to aquire TikTok, and Stephen takes issues with Jason’s travel tech recommendations.Sponsored by:Notion AI: Organize your work and life using Notion AI. Try Notion for free when you go to: notion.com/primarytechnologyWatch on YouTube!Subscribe and watch our weekly episodes plus bonus clips at: https://youtu.be/Cg3z7wrAzvUJoin the CommunityDiscuss new episodes, start your own conversation, and join the Primary Tech community here: social.primarytech.fmSupport the showJoin our member community and get an ad-free versions of the show, plus exclusive bonus episodes every week! Subscribe directly in Apple Podcasts or here: primarytech.memberful.com/joinReach out:Stephen's YouTube Channel@stephenrobles on ThreadsStephen on BlueskyStephen on Mastodon@stephenrobles on XJason's Inc.com Articles@jasonaten on Threads@JasonAten on XJason on BlueskyJason on MastodonWe would also appreciate a 5-star rating and review in Apple Podcasts and SpotifyPodcast artwork with help from Basic Apple Guy.Those interested in sponsoring the show can reach out to us at: podcast@primarytech.fmLinks from the showReview: I Expected the Sigma BF Camera to Be Ridiculous. It Is Surprisingly GoodSofa Podcast Player - Sofa15 NEW iOS 18.4 FeaturesWith iOS 18.4, Apple Quietly Introduced 1 of Its Best Features YetThe Annoying Bug Making Apple Users Very AngryNintendo Switch 2 specs: 1080p 120Hz display, 4K dock, mouse mode, and more | The VergeNintendo Switch 2 Accessories 4 Leadership Lessons from the Book Mark Zuckerberg Doesn’t Want You to ReadDonald Trump announces tariffs that could raise the price of almost everything you buy | The VergeAmazon Said to Make a Bid to Buy TikTok in the U.S. - The New York TimesChatGPT is turning everything into Studio Ghibli art | The Verge11 Travel Tech Gear Essentials and AccessoriesThe Better Anker MagSafe Battery
(00:00) - Intro
(06:45) - Sigma BF Camera
(09:37) - Sofa App Adds Podcasts
(11:09) - iOS 18.4 Features
(13:56) - Mac Setup from iPhone
(18:16) - The WORST Bug
(21:43) - Nintendo Switch 2
(26:03) - 4 Lessons from Meta
(26:38) - Sponsor: Notion
(28:29) - Tariffs and Tech
(34:43) - Amazin Bids for TikTok
(41:09) - xAI Acquires X
(45:58) - Jason's Travel Tech
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