

A Love Affair with the Unknown with Gill Deacon
Malt Bread Media
Saying Yes to uncertainty. Finding humour, courage and community as we navigate the wild ride of modern life. This could be a love affair. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Sep 16, 2025 • 45min
ALEX HUTCHINSON Bring on the uncertainty! We’re built to handle it
New York Times bestselling author Alex Hutchinson wants us to try new things. A science journalist with a focus on human performance, his new book The Explorer’s Gene is a fascinating dive into why humans are actually wired to not just handle uncertainty but to evolve and thrive because of it. Betting on the path we don’t know about will yield more rewarding results—even if it doesn’t work out the way we had hoped. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. This is a conversation that will buoy the spirits and boost our confidence to explore, in any part of life. With delightful passion, Alex lays out the research-based arguments showing why trying new foods, new music or a new route on our commute makes us more creative and more able to handle unknowns as they arise. The more we lean into the uncertainty the more the world opens up. Subscribe to our newsletter for more A Love Affair with the Unknown Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sep 2, 2025 • 44min
ARLENE DICKINSON A powerful dragon who isn’t afraid to show weakness
As Dragon’s Den kicks off its 20th season, how exciting to launch our second season with Arlene Dickinson—arguably the most iconic dragon of all. You know Arlene as a titan of business and venture capital, but as she reveals with remarkable warmth and candour as she talks with Gill, her secret weapon is her honesty about doubts, vulnerabilities and uncertainty. It’s what makes her YouTube show Arlene is Alone so popular. In this conversation she talks about the freedom she finds in being on her own, and about her passion for helping Canada through this critical moment of historic uncertainty. Arlene shares deeply personal stories of challenge, lays bare the raw courage it has taken her to keep going through hardship, and reminds us how much strength comes from being willing to accept what we might not know. Subscribe to our newsletter for more A Love Affair with the Unknown Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Aug 26, 2025 • 7min
BONUS-Thank you for the awesome feedback!
Gill is loving her summer break!Launching this podcast was itself a bit of a leap into the unknown, so it has been wonderfully rewarding to hear good things from so many of our listeners. Your stories, your responses and your appreciation of our guests this season have been great encouragement—just the fuel we needed to drive us forward to season 2. We wanted to share some highlights from listener letters. (We do read all your submissions, but we couldn’t read them all on the air…) Keep ‘em coming. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Aug 19, 2025 • 37min
BONUS -JEFFREY JENSEN ARNETT How to trust the uncertain future for young adults
The future can feel shaky, especially for young people starting out right now. Psychology professor and author Jeffrey Jensen Arnett, Ph.D. changed society's understanding of human development when he coined the term “emerging adulthood.” When adult children are living at home—as many are in this economy— future uncertainty can feel oppressive for everyone in the house. Dr. Arnett gives reassuring context for anxious parents of older children, explaining the social and cultural forces that have changed expectations for young people. He argues that “30 is the new 20” and that parents must learn to be more comfortable with less control, and trust that the kids are, in fact, alright.Subscribe to our newsletter for more A Love Affair with the Unknown Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Aug 12, 2025 • 30min
BONUS- DR. KIERAN QUINN Medicine is a science of uncertainty
When our health feels uncertain, we turn to our physicians—doctors have all the answers, right? But what about when they don’t? Dr. Kieran Quinn has devoted much of his busy clinical and research time since 2020 to understanding post-Covid syndromes. Though he is considered a top long Covid specialist, it is a condition riddled with unknowns, for which he can offer no remedy, no treatment and very few answers. He talks candidly with Gill—his former patient—about navigating the unstable ground of the unknown, and about what we can all learn about finding purpose when the answers are anything but clear.Subscribe to our newsletter: aloveaffairwiththeunknown.substack.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Aug 5, 2025 • 26min
BONUS-SUE HINCENBERGS Failure as fuel to keep going
If you’ve ever had a secret dream but been too afraid of failure to dare attempt it, Sue Hincenbergs would like a word. Her debut novel—a dark, funny crime story called “The Retirement Plan”—sparked a publishing bidding war and the film adaptation is already in development. (She’s got her fingers crossed for Brad Pitt in a lead role!) Sue makes the case for staying hopeful and working hard, even in the face of failure and uncertainty. Subscribe to our newsletter aloveaffairwiththeunknown.substack.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jul 30, 2025 • 45min
JEN MCNEELY What are we getting wrong when we think about change?
Super successful urban blogger Jen McNeely made a name for herself when she created the popular Toronto site “She Does the City”. But the toll that lifestyle took on her personal life became untenable and eventually led her to rehab. In sobriety, Jen has made one massive change after another, leaving her career and the city behind; rewriting her life in midlife. Jen is honest and inspiring as she explains the courage it took to lean into so much uncertainty, and the rewards that could only have come from being courageous and trusting herself to try new things.Subscribe to our newsletter aloveaffairwiththeunknown.substack.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Jul 22, 2025 • 46min
STEPHEN MARCHE What the hell do we do now, Canada?
In this conversation with Stephen Marche, an author and cultural commentator, the discussion covers the turbulent landscape of Canadian identity and politics. Marche delves into how Canada can embrace change and redefine its global role, emphasizing the importance of resilience and adaptability. He addresses the emotional toll of current events and urges individuals to maintain their well-being amidst uncertainty. The complexities of curiosity in decision-making and the evolving relationship between creativity and AI also take center stage, showcasing Marche's insightful perspectives.

Jul 15, 2025 • 33min
CATHRIN BRADBURY So you’re retired… now what?
Retirement ain’t what those ‘Freedom 55’ ad campaigns promised. Bestselling author and award-winning journalist Cathrin Bradbury talks openly about her new book This Way Up and the enormous change of this under-discussed life stage: the wild, unexpected and wonderful chapter that opened up in her life when she finally stepped away from the daily grind. Cathrin shares her own reckoning with all the unknowns inherent in retirement, as she leans into the uncertainty of mapping what lies ahead.Subscribe to our newsletter: aloveaffairwiththeunknown.substack.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jul 8, 2025 • 39min
BARAM & SNIECKUS No script, no guarantees, all trust.
Improvisational sketch comedy offers a master class in how to not just handle uncertainty but lean into it. Superstar improv comedians Matt Baram and Naomi Snieckus make walking the high wire of unscripted performance look easy. A couple both onstage and off, they have navigated huge life changes together, usually with laughs. When both sets of parents died, they set about processing grief—and a lot of inherited possessions— through their work. The result is Big Stuff, a critically acclaimed stage show that sold out an extended run in Toronto before touring Canada in fall 2025.In our conversation they talk openly (and hilariously) with Gill about all the possibilities that open up when you let go of how things are supposed to go, and about how learning to live with uncertainty on stage has helped them navigate the ups and downs of the rest of life.Subscribe to our newsletter: aloveaffairwiththeunknown.substack.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.