
Doomer Optimism
Doomer Optimism is a podcast dedicated to discovering regenerative paths forward, highlighting the people working for a better world, and connecting seekers to doers. Beyond that, it's pretty much a $hitshow. Enjoy!
Latest episodes

Sep 9, 2022 • 54min
Episode 72 - Tres Crow w/ Dave, Aspiring Peasant
On this episode of Doomer Optimism, the tables turn and Dave of Aspiring Peasant (@aspiringpeasant) fame interviews occasional DO host, and podcast co-founder, Tres Crow (@dogeatcrow) about his work with Roots Down and how he came to be a Doomer Optimist.
About Tres Crow
Tres is a writer, podcast host, occasional thinker, and the President and co-owner of Roots Down, an environmental education startup that's revolutionizing the landscaping industry from one of the dirtiest industries in the US to a powerful force for positive change. Keep up with the world of Roots Down by downloading the free app, available for iPhone and Android.
About Aspiring Peasant
Still none of your business.

Sep 6, 2022 • 1h 32min
Episode 71 - Jeff Bilbro w/ Donald Antenen and Ashley Colby
On this episode of Doomer Optimism, first-time host Donald Antenen (@riversofeurope) and Ashley Colby (@RizomaSchool) interview associate English professor and editor of Front Porch Republic, Jeff Bilbro (@jeff_bilbro). Topics range from Jeff's experiences living in a remote part of Washington state to his work at Front Porch Republic.
About Jeff Bilbro
Jeffrey Bilbro is an Associate Professor of English at Grove City College. He grew up in the mountainous state of Washington and earned his B.A. in Writing and Literature from George Fox University in Oregon and his Ph.D. in English from Baylor University. His books include Reading the Times: A Literary and Theological Inquiry into the News, Loving God’s Wildness: The Christian Roots of Ecological Ethics in American Literature, Wendell Berry and Higher Education: Cultivating Virtues of Place (written with Jack Baker), and Virtues of Renewal: Wendell Berry’s Sustainable Forms.
About Donald Antenen
Donald Antenen lives with his wife and daughters in the Pacific Northwest. He is translating Genesis: Beginning: a Verse Translation of Genesis.
About Ashley Colby
Ashley is an Environmental Sociologist who studied at Washington State University, the department that founded the subdiscipline. She's interested in and passionate about the myriad creative ways in which people are forming new social worlds in resistance to the failures of late capitalism and resultant climate disasters. I am a qualitative researcher so I tend to focus on the informal spaces of innovation. She's the founder of Rizoma Field School and Rizoma Foundation.

Aug 31, 2022 • 1h 39min
Episode 70 - Ariel Greenwood and Jonathan Gay w/ Jason Snyder
Episode 70 of Doomer Optimism kicks off with Jason Snyder (@cognazor) introducing first-time host Ariel Greenwood (@greenwoodae) before launching into a discussion on ecological restoration with cattle rancher Jonathan Gay of Freestone Ranch.
About Jonathan Gay
Jonathan focuses on ranch infrastructure and restoration projects. He sees the land with its soils, plants, microbes, fungi and animals as a living entity that deserves care and tending. After a career writing software, he appreciates the chance to be working outside and seeing the growing physical results of his efforts.
About Ariel Greenwood
Ariel grew up unschooled in the rural wilds of North Carolina and began farming at 16. In college, she studied agroecology and psychology while working with community gardens and private farms.
She managed livestock in Northern California for 4 1/2 years, primarily at Pepperwood Preserve and Freestone Ranch in the North Bay region, and since 2018 she has been working in the intermountain west with Triangle P Cattle Company and as co-owner of Grass Nomads LLC, a land and livestock management and consulting company. She also serves as founding board member & treasurer for Contra Viento Journal, an art & literature journal about rangelands, and on the board of Holistic Management International.
Her work is seasonal; in the summers she manages yearlings in Montana and the rest of the time she works with cows on rangeland in Northeastern New Mexico.
About Jason Snyder
Metamodern localist | homesteading, permaculture, bioregional regeneration | meditation, self inquiry, embodied cognition | PhD from Michigan State University, faculty Appalachian State University.

Aug 27, 2022 • 1h 3min
Episode 69 - Malcolm Schluenderfritz w/ Ashley Colby
This episode of Doomer Optimism has Ashley Colby (@RizomaSchool) discussing voluntary poverty with Malcolm Schluenderfritz (@HAYPpodcast), the host of Happy Are You Poor, a blog and podcast dedicated to discussing radical Christian community as a means of evangelization.
About Malcolm Schluenderfritz
Malcolm Schluenderfritz hosts Happy Are You Poor, a blog and podcast dedicated to discussing radical Christian community as a means of evangelization. He works as a graphic design assistant and a horticulturalist in Littleton, CO.
About Ashley Colby
Ashley is an Environmental Sociologist who studied at Washington State University, the department that founded the subdiscipline. She's interested in and passionate about the myriad creative ways in which people are forming new social worlds in resistance to the failures of late capitalism and resultant climate disasters. I am a qualitative researcher so I tend to focus on the informal spaces of innovation. She's the founder of Rizoma Field School and Rizoma Foundation.

Aug 24, 2022 • 1h 35min
Episode 68 - Chris Mott w/ Josh Kearns and Ashley Colby
On episode 68, Ashley Colby (@RizomaSchool) and Josh Kearns (@HillbillyNarnia) to interview writer and historical geopolitics specialist, Chris Mott (@ChrisDMott), about his recent white paper "Woke Imperium: The Coming Confluence Between Social Justice and Neoconservatism". Show note: Ashley's anecdote about Uruguay was about Cavani, not Suarez.
About Chris Mott
Chris Mott is an historical geopolitics specialist, and Research Fellow at Institute for Peace & Diplomacy . He's the author of 'The Formless Empire'. Allergic to moralism.
About Ashley Colby
Ashley is an Environmental Sociologist who studied at Washington State University, the department that founded the subdiscipline. She's interested in and passionate about the myriad creative ways in which people are forming new social worlds in resistance to the failures of late capitalism and resultant climate disasters. I am a qualitative researcher so I tend to focus on the informal spaces of innovation. She's the founder of Rizoma Field School and Rizoma Foundation.
About Dr. Josh Kearns
Josh is a born-n-bred Appalachian and a native of West-By-God-Virginia and damn proud of it. He studied chemistry and environmental engineering at Clemson (BS), biogeochemistry at Berkeley (MS), and environmental engineering at CU-Boulder (PhD). He's spent years bumming around rural and remote communities in Thailand, Burma/Myanmar, India, Nepal, Ladakh, Sri Lanka, and Mexico, and generally tried to make himself useful while doing so. He's the Director of Science for Aqueous Solutions, and the Chief Technical Advisor for Caminos de Agua, grassroots water and health development organizations in Thailand and Mexico, respectively. He taught environmental engineering courses at NC State University for a couple of years before returning to his roots as a freelance renegade scientist and exponent of ecological transition engineering. He lives with his wife Rachael and all their critters on a small mountaintop homestead in southern Appalachia.

Aug 19, 2022 • 1h 15min
Episode 67 - Brendan Barnard w/ Ashley Colby and Peter Allen
Episode 67 is all about regenerative ag, with Ashley Colby (@RizomaSchool) and Peter Allen (@pclarkallen) teaming up to talk to Brendan Barnard (@IntractableLion)of Posterity Ciderworks about his cider-making philosophy, and his interest in low intervention agriculture.
About Brendan Barnard
Passionate about stewardship, long term thinking, and the intersections of nature, art, and science, cider captured Brendan’s attention in 2016 and he hasn’t shaken it. When he’s not grafting, planting, pruning, picking, pressing, or sampling cider you’ll find him cooking for his family.
About Peter Allen
Peter Allen spent a decade in Madison where Peter was researching and teaching ecology, economics, and complexity science, and his wife Maureen was studied biology, taught team building seminars at the University, and helped develop a non-profit urban farm for kids. They moved to the Driftless in 2012 to build a homestead and start a regenerative farm nestled in the hills of the Kickapoo River Valley in the heart of Wisconsin’s Driftless region.
They are inspired by the oak savanna ecosystems that once blanketed our hills and valleys. Groves of fruit and nuts trees combined with prairie grasslands to create the most diverse, productive, and functional ecosystems in the history of our continent. It's no wonder why these savanna gardens were cultivated by Indigenous Americans for millennia and manicured by mastodons for tens of millions of years. Now they’re the keystone species - planting fruit and nut trees by the thousands, thinning out overgrown woodlands, and practicing multi-species rotational grazing with cattle, sheep, goats, hogs, and poultry to manage vegetation, build soil, boost biodiversity, and produce meats and medicines at peak power and potency.
About Ashley Colby
Ashley is an Environmental Sociologist who studied at Washington State University, the department that founded the subdiscipline. She's interested in and passionate about the myriad creative ways in which people are forming new social worlds in resistance to the failures of late capitalism and resultant climate disasters. I am a qualitative researcher so I tend to focus on the informal spaces of innovation. She's the founder of Rizoma Field School and Rizoma Foundation.

Aug 17, 2022 • 1h 19min
DO 66 - Kev Aliti English Homestead
Kevin Alviti has been a carpenter for over 20 years, he has worked on everything from oak framed barns to high rise flats, from 18th century style carvings to cleaving the parts for a gate from a log. Kev sits down with Ashley and a few DO fans to talk homesteading, parenting, localism and then a little bit about his upcoming woodworking class in Ashley's home economics course:
https://rizomaschool.gumroad.com/l/homeeconomics101
Introduction to Woodworking. When a tree falls, we automatically think of firewood, but really that should be the last use we come to, each part should be used to its fullest extent. Wood is the greatest material there is, renewable, durable and infinitely workable. In this lecture, I’ll talk about the basic tools and equipment you need, and how to start on some simple projects. Woodworking for projects and repairs you need for your home.

Aug 16, 2022 • 1h 2min
Episode 65 - Mash Tun Timmy and the Brewers w/ Ashley Colby
On this episode of Doomer Optimism, Ashley Colby (@RizomaSchool) interviews "Mash Tun" Timmy (@MashTunTimmy) and his band of merry brewers about making beer, friendships, and how making things can bring people together.
About "Mash Tun" Timmy
He owns a software company. Interested in complexity, mysticism, the power of male friendship, re-enchanting the world, and brewing beer with his "Watch the Pot" brewery/club, which he helps run from a barn in Michigan.
About Ashley Colby
Ashley is an Environmental Sociologist who studied at Washington State University, the department that founded the subdiscipline. She's interested in and passionate about the myriad creative ways in which people are forming new social worlds in resistance to the failures of late capitalism and resultant climate disasters. I am a qualitative researcher so I tend to focus on the informal spaces of innovation. She's the founder of Rizoma Field School and Rizoma Foundation.

Aug 9, 2022 • 1h 20min
Episode 64 - Existential Risk roundtable
The 64th episode is all about disaster management, community resilience, and existential risk. Tres Crow (@dogeatcrow) hosts for a panel of brilliant people: Scott James (https://scottjames.me/), SJ Beard (@CSERSJ), and Charlotte Cecil (@thrivespring).
About Scott James
BusinessWeek named Scott James as one of America’s Most Promising Social Entrepreneurs and Forbes Magazine profiled him as a Game Changer.
Scott was awarded a Governor’s Award of Excellence in Service by the state of Washington for his nonprofit community preparedness work, Bainbridge Prepares. He was asked by FEMA to present his book – Prepared Neighborhoods: Creating Resilience One Street at a Time – at their national training symposium.
The products from his companies have been featured in publications as diverse as Oprah’s O Magazine, National Geographic, Parents Magazine, the Washington Post, Outside Magazine, and US News & World Report. His film projects range from the opening shorts at the United Nations Climate Change Summits to the breakthrough nature-based series on Netflix (title series: “Moving Art”).
His organizations tend to either focus on “people helping people” such as Fair Trade companies, or “people helping planet” (which of course also help people) such as organizations focused on the climate crisis. More details at: scottjames.me.
About SJ Beard
SJ is a Senior Research Associate and Academic Programme Manager at the Centre for the Study of Existential Risk at the University of Cambridge, an Associated Researcher at the Institute for Futures Studies and an AHRC/BBC New Generation Thinker. I work on the Evaluation of Extreme Technological Risks, and other ethical problems with ensuring a long term future for humanity. I also have a wide range of skills and experiences producing high quality research, training and analysis across education and public affairs.
About Charlotte Cecil
Charlotte studied emergency management at George Brown College in Toronto, Canada. She has been a volunteer responder with various response and recovery groups, and worked for many years as a security consultant in the UK. Following a life-threatening incident in her early 20s, she became interested in emergency preparedness and security, which evolved into a passion for community resilience. She strongly believes that communities which engage in inclusive resilience-building help create safer, healthier and more cohesive societies.
About Tres Crow
Tres is making the world a greener place one urban space at a time with my friends Roots Down. He's a storyteller and marketing dude. He loves natural urbanism and climate justice.

Aug 4, 2022 • 1h 13min
Episode 63 - Matt Berk w/ Ashley Colby and Jason Snyder
This episode has Ashley Colby (@RizomaSchool) and Jason Snyder (@cognazor) chatting up Matt Berk (@mattdberk), a swiss army knife a man with a broad range of interests. From energy crunch, peak oil, and climate change to high performance building and passive housing, this conversation packs a punch.
About Matt Berk
High performance building, passive house, energy and natural resources. Principal at Eco Windows and Facades.
About Ashley Colby
Ashley is an Environmental Sociologist who studied at Washington State University, the department that founded the subdiscipline. She's interested in and passionate about the myriad creative ways in which people are forming new social worlds in resistance to the failures of late capitalism and resultant climate disasters. I am a qualitative researcher so I tend to focus on the informal spaces of innovation. She's the founder of Rizoma Field School and Rizoma Foundation.
About Jason Snyder
Metamodern localist | homesteading, permaculture, bioregional regeneration | meditation, self inquiry, embodied cognition | PhD from Michigan State University, faculty Appalachian State University.