
Doomer Optimism
Doomer Optimism is a podcast dedicated to discovering regenerative paths forward, highlighting the people working for a better world, and connecting seekers to doers. Beyond that, it's pretty much a $hitshow. Enjoy!
Latest episodes

Sep 14, 2023 • 1h 31min
DO 168 - Silvopasture with Drake Larson, Nate, and Jason
Drake, Nate, and Jason talk about Silvopasture, Drake’s experience with it, and Nate’s plans for it. What it is, why it has so much potential for both food production and ecological restoration, the central role of water management, keyline design, carbon myopia, ecological prefiguration, and the numerous beings that are supporting our efforts.

Sep 12, 2023 • 1h 29min
DO 167 - Doomer Optimism Literary Hour
Description:
Tessa Carman and JC Scharl join Donald and Going Godward to talk about poetry, translation, and motherhood in the first-ever Doomer Optimism Literary Hour.
Bios:
Tessa Carman is a writer and teacher. You can find more of her work at TessaCarman.wordpress.com.
Jane Clark Scharl is an American poet, playwright, and critic. Her poetry has appeared in many American and European outlets, including the BBC, The Hopkins Review, The New Ohio Review, The American Journal of Poetry, The Lamp, Measure Review, and others. Her criticism has appeared in Dappled Things, Fare Forward, Plough Quarterly, and others. Her first verse drama, Sonnez Les Matines, was published by Wiseblood Books in February 2023. The play had its theatrical debut in NYC on February 21st, 2023 at the Nubox Theatre.

Sep 7, 2023 • 58min
DO 166 - Biochar Water Treatment in Malawi with Richard, Ahmad, and Josh
Over the past several months Josh Kearns has been remote mentoring a small group of Stanford students working on biochar water treatment (mostly though one student contact). Two students just wrapped up a 10-week implementation trip in Malawi. He recorded the conversation the night before they were flying out to come back to Western Civilization. He wanted to talk to them while they were still fresh off the experience and in-context, before the mind-warp of readjusting to life in the US.
In this conversation they talked about their project and what insights and experiences they gained, what they found surprising, challenging, etc. They discussed the utility of field-based hands-on experiential education versus formal university education. They had some interesting things to say, including that living in the campus environment (in campus housing where cleaning is all done for you, eating at the dining hall where you don't have to prepare your own food, etc.) many students don't feel like "adults." Managing their own housing upkeep and meals was a salient point for them it seems.

Sep 5, 2023 • 1h 30min
DO 165 - Narrative Exchange with Evan Barker and Jason
Evan and Jason talk about Narrative Exchange, a program of bringing
people from very different backgrounds and sharing stories to foster
greater empathy and compassion. They also talk about many related topics
including the internet and polarization, the loss of community life,
Dunbar’s number, building new communities across differences, public
schooling vs. homeschooling, how to be a responsible newcomer to a
region, and much more

Aug 31, 2023 • 1h 5min
DO 164 - Evan Meyer on Global Supply Chains
Ashley and Evan discuss global supply chains and suggest a synthesis between globalism and localism.

Aug 29, 2023 • 1h 56min
DO 163 - Small Farm Future meets Lean Logic with Chris Smaje, Shaun Chamberlin, and Jason
Chris, Shaun, and Jason record a follow up conversation to an earlier one between Shaun and Jason (found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yni0F-3VVxo&t=1174s ) talking about the intersections of Chris’s vision of a Small Farm Future and Shaun’s of Lean Logic, and particularly the cultural and spiritual dimensions of collapse and regeneration, as well as the more near term conflicting urban/rural class politics involved

Aug 24, 2023 • 1h 12min
DO 162 - Braxton McCoy with Roland Gunn and Ashley
Braxton sits down with Ashley and Roland to discuss localism, agriculture, community, and that controversial new country music singer Oliver Anthony!

Aug 22, 2023 • 1h 20min
DO 161 - American Literature with James Pogue, Ketruah Lamb, Adirondacker and Donald Antenen
James, Keturah, Andy, and Donald talk about America and literature and American literature, its limits and possibilities.

Aug 10, 2023 • 56min
DO 160 - Overcoming barriers to entry in regenerative agriculture - Chuck Lewis of Sheraton Park Farms and Josh Kearns
Chuck and Saundra Lewis operate Sheraton Park Farms – a 70-acre regenerative farming operation nestled in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountain of Wilkes County, NC.
Starting from a single chicken tractor with 25 broiler chickens in 2018, Chuck and Saundra have grown their operation to raising meat birds, egg layers, turkeys, pigs, and cows – and earning a respectable income.
In this fast-paced conversation, Josh and Chuck discuss economic, practical, and psychological barriers to getting more people involved in diverse, decentralized, small-scale regenerative ag, along with tools, tips, tricks, and ideas for overcoming those barriers.
They talk about Chuck’s philosophy for utilizing social media and YouTube to promote an authentic experience for Sheraton Park’s customer to know their food and their farmers.
They highlight challenges, weaknesses, and pitfalls, and lessons learned for bootstrapping a small farm operation and cultivating a customer base willing to pay a premium for healthy, local, clean meat from ethically raised animals.
Sheraton Park Farms YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@SheratonParkFarms/featured

Aug 1, 2023 • 1h 27min
DO 159 - Medical Nemesis and David Cayley with Donald
David Caley and Medical Nemesis join Donald to talk about Ivan Illich.Medical
Nemesis wonders why Ivan Illich’s book Medical Nemesis has not taken
hold in any part of our culture and how to make practical use of this
knowledge. @Medical_Nemesis / https://medicalnemesis.substack.comDavid
Cayley is a Toronto-based Canadian writer and broadcaster, who is known
for documenting the philosophy of prominent thinkers of the 20th
century - Ivan Illich, Northrop Frye, George Grant, and Rene Girard. His
biography of Ivan Illich is available from Penn State University Press:
https://www.psupress.org/books/titles/978-0-271-08812-9.html