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Aug 19, 2023 • 39min

253: Responding to Ken Schaap's Podcast on Church Hurt + Breaking Down the Week's Headlines

01:22:20 – On August 1st, Robert Lazzell, former principal of First Baptist School and a deacon at First Baptist Church, was sentenced to 12 years in prison after pleading guilty to Criminal Sexual Assault against former student Michael Young. It’s important to note that Lazzell is the third prominent former staff member to be charged with sexual crimes against minors since the late 90s.Source: https://vermilioncountyfirst.com/2023/08/18/protesters-outside-first-baptist-church-call-for-accountability-in-aftermath-of-lazzell-sentencing/?fbclid=IwAR1fbriIQlW92_iFLCUJtaIWxkEIKYQ9WhMLsGftQpjIZX2uFWf1dJMae8U02:35:20 – The Kenosha County Eye reports that in the early morning of August 10th at a Somers Walmart, an individual was reportedly observed fully naked, standing next to a black truck, masturbating. The Kenosha County Sheriff's Department made an arrest and the individual was later identified as 57-year-old Pastor Thomas Bartmer.Thomas Bartmer, as per his website (which has now been largely wiped) has been a pastor at Lighthouse Church in Antioch, IL. His journey into the ministry began with a Lutheran upbringing, and his history is marked by his involvement in various churches, where he held leadership roles, including teaching, preaching, and working with community programs. He began Lighthouse Baptist Church on Sept 6th, 1997, and on March 27th, 1999, Lighthouse constituted as a self-sustaining church and was granted official membership in the Illinois Baptist State Association and the Southern Baptist Convention.Source: https://kenoshacountyeye.com/2023/08/12/local-pastor-arrested-at-somers-walmart-for-masturbating-naked-in-parking-lot/04:16:21 – News3 reports:“Robert Stine, 60, faces two felony charges of first-degree child sex assault - sexual contact or sexual intercourse with a person under the age of 13, online court records show.In July, Pastor Stine of Midvale Baptist Church had his license revoked for operating the church's Kid's Best child care facility in June. This action followed an inquiry by the Wisconsin Department of Children and Families and the Madison Police Department.A young girl reported that Stine assaulted her on three separate occasions.Source: https://www.channel3000.com/news/madison-pastor-charged-with-child-sexual-assault/article_5d6fddde-3d49-11ee-a71b-f332c6de0680.html07:14:21 – There is no shortage of unhelpful commentary and discourse surrounding clergy abuse.This week I caught wind of two particularly terrible examples from higher-profile voices adjacent to the IFB.One was from Shelly Hamilton – wife of the late Ron Hamilton, who created the popular Patch the Pirate children’s character.The other was from Ken Schaap's Podcast: https://youtu.be/Pi5xIcOn4RQ________________Support the Preacher Boys Podcast:https://www.patreon.com/preacherboysPurchase a Preacher Boys shirt, mask, sticker, or other merch to rep the show! https://www.teepublic.com/user/preacher-boys-podcast________________Find more stories regarding the IFB movement by visiting:– preacherboysdoc.com– https://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/– https://twitter.com/preacherboysdoc-– https://www.instagram.com/preacherboysdoc/To connect with a community that shares the Preacher Boys Podcast's mission to expose abuse in the IFB, join the OFFICIAL Preacher Boys Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403898676438188This episode is sponsored by/brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/PreacherBoys and get on your way to being your best self.Our Sponsors:* Use promo code preacherboys at the link below to get an exclusive 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/preacherboysSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/preacher-boys-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Aug 13, 2023 • 1h 5min

252: Let's Catch Up!

We are back, and taking some time to reflect on almost three years of Preacher Boys - a journey that’s been equal parts rewarding and difficult. Huge shout out to my friend and the PB Discussion Group mod, Michael McNeilly, for hopping on this one.________________Support the Preacher Boys Podcast:https://www.patreon.com/preacherboysPurchase a Preacher Boys shirt, mask, sticker, or other merch to rep the show! https://www.teepublic.com/user/preacher-boys-podcast________________Find more stories regarding the IFB movement by visiting:– preacherboysdoc.com– https://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/– https://twitter.com/preacherboysdoc-– https://www.instagram.com/preacherboysdoc/To connect with a community that shares the Preacher Boys Podcast's mission to expose abuse in the IFB, join the OFFICIAL Preacher Boys Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403898676438188This episode is sponsored by/brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/PreacherBoys and get on your way to being your best self.Our Sponsors:* Use promo code preacherboys at the link below to get an exclusive 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/preacherboysSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/preacher-boys-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Apr 23, 2023 • 48min

251: Hannah Kay | Survivor Prom

Support SURVIVOR PROM: https://survivor-prom.causevox.com/Survivor Prom is an unforgettable experience put together by Survivors of the Troubled Teen Industry.Every year thousands of children are taken out of the safety and comfort of their homes and transported into congregate care facilities, often labeled "Troubled Teen" facilities. Survivors of these programs report horrific emotional, psychological, and physical abuse. And in addition to mourning what they experienced INSIDE the program, Survivors also mourn the experiences they were robbed of during the most formidable and impactful years of their lives.Survivor Prom is Prom. It's a party. Thrown in honor of adults who have endured so much, that they may reclaim just one small part of their teenage dream.Please consider a monetary gift today to the Survivors making Prom a reality.________________Support the Preacher Boys Podcast:https://www.patreon.com/preacherboysPurchase a Preacher Boys shirt, mask, sticker, or other merch to rep the show! https://www.teepublic.com/user/preacher-boys-podcast________________Find more stories regarding the IFB movement by visiting:– preacherboysdoc.com– https://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/– https://twitter.com/preacherboysdoc-– https://www.instagram.com/preacherboysdoc/To connect with a community that shares the Preacher Boys Podcast's mission to expose abuse in the IFB, join the OFFICIAL Preacher Boys Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403898676438188This episode is sponsored by/brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/PreacherBoys and get on your way to being your best self.Our Sponsors:* Use promo code preacherboys at the link below to get an exclusive 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/preacherboysSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/preacher-boys-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Apr 16, 2023 • 49min

250: Lauren Eggers | Overcoming Shame After Assault

In this episode of the Preacher Boys podcast, host Eric talks to Lauren Eggers about her experiences growing up in the Independent Fundamental Baptist church.While Lauren's early experiences in the IFB church were largely positive, she started to discover that the world around her was far from perfect.In this episode, we talk about:– attending Hyles Anderson College after the Schaap incident– the failure of the "Jericho Program"– the severe expectations on women in the IFB– Lauren's traumatic experience with a man who disregarded her wishes and took advantage of her, and the difficulty of sharing that with others.I appreciate Lauren bravely sharing her story and I know it will encourage all who listen!________________Support the Preacher Boys Podcast:https://www.patreon.com/preacherboysPurchase a Preacher Boys shirt, mask, sticker, or other merch to rep the show! https://www.teepublic.com/user/preacher-boys-podcast________________Find more stories regarding the IFB movement by visiting:– preacherboysdoc.com– https://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/– https://twitter.com/preacherboysdoc-– https://www.instagram.com/preacherboysdoc/To connect with a community that shares the Preacher Boys Podcast's mission to expose abuse in the IFB, join the OFFICIAL Preacher Boys Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403898676438188This episode is sponsored by/brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/PreacherBoys and get on your way to being your best self.Our Sponsors:* Use promo code preacherboys at the link below to get an exclusive 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/preacherboysSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/preacher-boys-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Apr 9, 2023 • 41min

249: Sheila Gregoire Asked 7,000 Women How Toxic Church Teaching Affected Them

Purchase a copy of She Deserves Better: https://amzn.to/40NMYZzArmed with data from an all-new survey of over 7,000 women, the authors of The Great Sex Rescue reveal how experiences in church as teens affect women's self-esteem and relationships today. They expose common evangelical teachings that can backfire--the purity emphasis that can cause shame rather than good choices, the dating rules that can prime your daughter for abuse, and the one overarching belief that can keep her from setting healthy boundaries.Instead, the authors advocate biblically grounded, freeing messages that are more about the dos and less about the don'ts. By reframing (and sometimes replacing) common evangelical messages to teen girls, this book will equip you to raise a daughter who can navigate the tumultuous teenage years while still clinging tightly to Jesus.You can raise your daughter with the discernment to resist toxic teachings. Because she deserves better than a faith that keeps her small.Sheila Wray Gregoire is the face behind BareMarriage.com, an award-winning author, and a sought-after speaker. Rebecca Gregoire Lindenbach is a psychology graduate, Sheila's daughter, and the author of Why I Didn't Rebel. Joanna Sawatsky has a master's degree in public health and is a trained microbiologist, epidemiologist, and biostatistician.Together they are the coauthors of The Great Sex Rescue and She Deserves Better.Purchase a copy of The Great Sex Rescue: https://amzn.to/414EmgW________________Support the Preacher Boys Podcast:https://www.patreon.com/preacherboysPurchase a Preacher Boys shirt, mask, sticker, or other merch to rep the show! https://www.teepublic.com/user/preacher-boys-podcast________________Find more stories regarding the IFB movement by visiting:– preacherboysdoc.com– https://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/– https://twitter.com/preacherboysdoc-– https://www.instagram.com/preacherboysdoc/To connect with a community that shares the Preacher Boys Podcast's mission to expose abuse in the IFB, join the OFFICIAL Preacher Boys Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403898676438188This episode is sponsored by/brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/PreacherBoys and get on your way to being your best self.Our Sponsors:* Use promo code preacherboys at the link below to get an exclusive 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/preacherboysSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/preacher-boys-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Apr 7, 2023 • 3min

248: Bob Jones University Chairman of the Board Resigns

In episode #246, we discussed the resignation of Dr. Steve Pettit, president of Bob Jones University in South Carolina.Pettit took office in 2014, a year after a GRACE report that revealed how the college's leadership had mishandled numerous cases of abuse that occurred both on and off campus.Survivors claimed that in cases that took place at the school, proper authorities were not notified, and in many cases, victims in counseling at BJU were blamed for bringing the abuse on themselves.Many people hoped that Pettit's appointment would bring about much-needed change. However, on March 31, 2023, almost nine years after taking office, Pettit resigned from BJU.Just a few days before his resignation, he wrote a five-page letter that revealed several concerning issues about Dr. John Lewis, Chairman BJU's board of trustees.Pettit accused Lewis of holding off-site secret meetings without informing key university leadership, adopting a posture of secrecy and hostility toward the board and the administration. He also claimed that Lewis interfered with the reporting of a sexual harassment case to the school's designated Title IX coordinator, among other things. Pettit threatened to resign if Lewis remained in office.In a surprising turn of events, on April 6, Dr. John Lewis tendered his resignation as well.Dr. Steve Pettit (whose official final day at BJU is May 5th) issued a statement regarding Lewis’ resignation, saying,“Late this afternoon, I was notified that Bob Jones University Board of Trustees Chairman Dr. John Lewis has resigned from the Board of Trustees effective immediately. He has served BJU for 32 years as a board member and seven years as chairman. His desire was to honor the mission and vision of BJU and he worked tirelessly to that end. During his tenure, the University secured regional accreditation through SACSCOC and regained our tax exemption. I wish Dr. Lewis God’s best.”The reason for Lewis’ resignation has not immediately been given – it’s also unclear whether Lewis’ resignation will affect Pettit’s decision to resign.Regardless, it's clear that change is coming to Bob Jones University.________________Support the Preacher Boys Podcast:https://www.patreon.com/preacherboysPurchase a Preacher Boys shirt, mask, sticker, or other merch to rep the show! https://www.teepublic.com/user/preacher-boys-podcast________________Find more stories regarding the IFB movement by visiting:– preacherboysdoc.com– https://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/– https://twitter.com/preacherboysdoc-– https://www.instagram.com/preacherboysdoc/To connect with a community that shares the Preacher Boys Podcast's mission to expose abuse in the IFB, join the OFFICIAL Preacher Boys Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403898676438188This episode is sponsored by/brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/PreacherBoys and get on your way to being your best self.Our Sponsors:* Use promo code preacherboys at the link below to get an exclusive 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/preacherboysSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/preacher-boys-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Apr 2, 2023 • 1h 17min

247: “It’s Not a Tell All” | What Jinger Duggar Did and Didn’t Say in Her Book

On this episode of the Preacher Boys podcast, Eric Skwarczynski chats with IBLP survivor Emily Elizabeth Anderson about Jinger Duggar Vuolo's new book, Becoming Free Indeed.In this episode, Emily shares her thoughts on the book and its portrayal of the dangerous theology of Bill Gothard and the Institute in Basic Life Principles (IBLP).Emily talks about how she appreciated Jinger's specific references to the implications of Gothard's teachings and stories, even if they weren't directly stated in IBLP materials. However, Emily also raises concerns about Jinger's continued reluctance to hold her parents accountable for their role in her upbringing.Another issue discussed in the episode is Jinger's problematic association with John MacArthur and her privileged position as a celebrity in evangelical culture. Emily brings up the experiences of other women who may have had different, less fortunate experiences.Finally, Emily and Eric delve into Jinger's word choice and whether or not she accurately labeled IBLP as a cult.Tune in to this thought-provoking conversation on the Preacher Boys podcast.________________Support the Preacher Boys Podcast:https://www.patreon.com/preacherboysPurchase a Preacher Boys shirt, mask, sticker, or other merch to rep the show! https://www.teepublic.com/user/preacher-boys-podcast________________Find more stories regarding the IFB movement by visiting:– preacherboysdoc.com– https://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/– https://twitter.com/preacherboysdoc-– https://www.instagram.com/preacherboysdoc/To connect with a community that shares the Preacher Boys Podcast's mission to expose abuse in the IFB, join the OFFICIAL Preacher Boys Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403898676438188This episode is sponsored by/brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/PreacherBoys and get on your way to being your best self.Our Sponsors:* Use promo code preacherboys at the link below to get an exclusive 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/preacherboysSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/preacher-boys-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Apr 1, 2023 • 8min

246: Bob Jones University President Resigns

In this episode of the Preacher Boys Podcast, Eric Skwarczynski talks about the resignation of Dr. Steve Pettit, the president of Bob Jones University.The resignation comes after Pettit wrote a five-page letter accusing Dr. John Lewis, Chairman of the Board of Trustees, of holding off-site secret meetings without informing key university leadership. Pettit also claims that Lewis has taken actions to obstruct and impede the university's Title XI investigation into a sexual harassment case.Pettit's resignation is a shocking development, given the hope many placed in him to bring positive change to the institution after the GRACE report revealed the mishandling of abuse cases at the university in the early 2010s.Eric reads much of Pettit's letter verbatim and discusses the implications of these allegations.________________Support the Preacher Boys Podcast:https://www.patreon.com/preacherboysPurchase a Preacher Boys shirt, mask, sticker, or other merch to rep the show! https://www.teepublic.com/user/preacher-boys-podcast________________Find more stories regarding the IFB movement by visiting:– preacherboysdoc.com– https://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/– https://twitter.com/preacherboysdoc-– https://www.instagram.com/preacherboysdoc/To connect with a community that shares the Preacher Boys Podcast's mission to expose abuse in the IFB, join the OFFICIAL Preacher Boys Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403898676438188This episode is sponsored by/brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/PreacherBoys and get on your way to being your best self.Our Sponsors:* Use promo code preacherboys at the link below to get an exclusive 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/preacherboysSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/preacher-boys-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Mar 26, 2023 • 41min

245: Evangelist refuses to name PREDATOR PASTORS in disturbing sermon

In this episode, host Eric Skwarczynski provides a scathing critique of a horrific sermon delivered by Evangelist Dean McNeese. McNeese refuses to call out predators by name, despite knowing their identities and instead promotes the idea of restoration for presumed predators.Furthermore, McNeese states that God will kill those who call out pastors "the wrong way," even if the pastor is morally wrong. These dangerous and harmful beliefs have no place in any religious institution and must be challenged and exposed.Join us as we delve deep into the disturbing world of toxic ministry and the individuals who perpetuate it. Don't miss this eye-opening episode of the Preacher Boys Podcast.________________Original sermon: https://youtu.be/0HnvCzNcOws________________Support the Preacher Boys Podcast:https://www.patreon.com/preacherboysPurchase a Preacher Boys shirt, mask, sticker, or other merch to rep the show! https://www.teepublic.com/user/preacher-boys-podcast________________Find more stories regarding the IFB movement by visiting:– preacherboysdoc.com– https://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/– https://twitter.com/preacherboysdoc-– https://www.instagram.com/preacherboysdoc/To connect with a community that shares the Preacher Boys Podcast's mission to expose abuse in the IFB, join the OFFICIAL Preacher Boys Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403898676438188This episode is sponsored by/brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/PreacherBoys and get on your way to being your best self.Our Sponsors:* Use promo code preacherboys at the link below to get an exclusive 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/preacherboysSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/preacher-boys-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Mar 24, 2023 • 6min

244: Unholy Heist | Kentucky Pastor Charged with Stealing Church Funds

In this episode of the Preacher Boys Podcast, I discuss a case of alleged financial abuse in the Independent Fundamental Baptist movement involving Pastor Ken Shaver.Shaver, the 62-year-old pastor of Greater Vision Baptist Church in Utica, was charged with theft by unlawfully taking over $10,000 but under $1 million, which is a class C felony. The charge is punishable by between five and 10 years in prison.I spoke speak to an anonymous insider who was formerly close to the ministry for more details on the case.________________Additional Sources:https://www.messenger-inquirer.com/news/owensboro-minister-charged-with-theft-of-thousands-of-dollars-from-church/article_8094f646-e1df-57cf-b41a-2f2c5ecbaedf.htmlhttps://www.tristatehomepage.com/news/local-news/daviess-county/owensboro-news/owensboro-pastor-arrested-at-church-after-theft-allegation/________________Support the Preacher Boys Podcast:https://www.patreon.com/preacherboysPurchase a Preacher Boys shirt, mask, sticker, or other merch to rep the show! https://www.teepublic.com/user/preacher-boys-podcast________________Find more stories regarding the IFB movement by visiting:– preacherboysdoc.com– https://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/– https://twitter.com/preacherboysdoc-– https://www.instagram.com/preacherboysdoc/To connect with a community that shares the Preacher Boys Podcast's mission to expose abuse in the IFB, join the OFFICIAL Preacher Boys Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403898676438188This episode is sponsored by/brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/PreacherBoys and get on your way to being your best self.Our Sponsors:* Use promo code preacherboys at the link below to get an exclusive 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/preacherboysSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/preacher-boys-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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