

MinistryWatch Podcast
Warren Smith and Natasha Smith
Transparency and accountability are vital to the renewal of the evangelical church in America. Hosts Warren Smith and Natasha Smith highlight the top stories of the week from the unique MinistryWatch perspective and give you a peek behind the curtain to show why and how we do the investigations we do.
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Oct 3, 2025 • 25min
Ep. 516: IHOP, Ethnos 360, Camp Mystic Parents Unhappy
On today’s program, an investigation dug into abuse allegations at IHOP-KC—and now a pastoral team charged with making recommendations based on that investigation has determined Mike Bickle is ‘permanently disqualified’ from church office. We’ll take a look.
And, a sexual abuse lawsuit against the missionary agency Ethnos360 has been dismissed.
Plus, remembering Voddie Baucham, who passed away last week.
But first, Camp Mystic has announced plans to partially reopen next summer—and not everyone is happy about it. Camp Mystic, a Christian girls camp where 27 campers and counselors died in the July 4 flooding along the Guadalupe River in Texas, has said it plans to host camps next summer.
The producer for today’s program is Jeff McIntosh. We get database and other technical support from Stephen DuBarry, Rod Pitzer, and Casey Sudduth. Writers who contributed to today’s program include Kim Roberts, Greg Teffertiller, Daniel Ritchie, Isaac Wood, Bob Smietana, Makella Knowles, and Christina Darnell.
A special thanks to Christian Index for contributing material for this week’s podcast.
Until next time, may God bless you.

Oct 2, 2025 • 51min
Ep. 515: The Triumphs, Troubles, and Tragedies Faced by Retiring Grove City College President Paul McNulty
Paul McNulty has had at least three careers. After graduating from law school, he spent 20 years in public service, rising to the top levels of the U.S. Department of Justice. Then he moved to one of the nation’s – some might say the world’s – top law firms. But service was in his blood, and in 2014 he became president of his alma mater, Grove City College. He has just retired from that position, after an 11 year stint.
At a time when lots of colleges are shutting down, Grove City – under McNulty’s leadership – has thrived. I asked Paul to be on the program today to do a retrospective of his career, and our conversation ranges widely, from his time in government, to the death of his son due to cancer in 2012, and his involvement with Keith and Kristyn Getty and their efforts to bring theologically rich and musically excellent hymns to the modern church.
But the center of our conversation today is a discussion about the challenges facing higher education, and how Christian colleges can meet those challenges.
Paul McNulty spoke to me from his home in Charleston, South Carolina.

Oct 1, 2025 • 12min
Ep. 514: Voddie Baucham’s Advice to Parents
In 2015 I sat down with Voddie Baucham and had a wide-ranging conversation. We talked about homeschooling, what it means to be a man, the duties of fatherhood, and Brazilian jui-jitsu!
On today’s podcast, I share with you excerpts of that conversation.
To read an edited transcript of our 2015 conversation, click here.
The producer for today’s program is Jeff McIntosh.
Until next time, may God bless you.

Sep 26, 2025 • 28min
Ep. 513: Burk Parsons, Christopher Yuan, David Sills and Jennifer Lyell, ACNA Military Chaplains
On today’s program, St. Andrew’s Chapel in Sanford, Florida, has refused to reveal the salaries of its pastors—even to its own board of elders. But a new whistleblower report shows that at least three of its pastors receive compensation that’s raising eyebrows. We’ll take a look.
Plus, the use of celebrities to promote causes is not new—but ministries are increasingly turning to social media influencers to tout their missions. We look at their uses—and misuses—plus cautions to consider.
And, former SBC professor David Sills drops his defamation suit against the late Jennifer Lyell, who accused him of sexual abuse before her death this summer. Meanwhile, other SBC-related defendants in the case are seeking summary judgment.
Finally, we’ll have an update on the health of popular speaker Christopher Yuan, who was injured in an accident this week.
But first, military chaplains are attempting to leave the Anglican Church in North America en masse.
The producer for today’s program is Jeff McIntosh. We get database and other technical support from Stephen DuBarry, Rod Pitzer, and Casey Sudduth. Writers who contributed to today’s program include Kim Roberts, Daniel Ritchie, Tony Mator, Diana Chandler, Bob Smietana, Adelle Banks—and you, Warren.
A special thanks to Baptist Press for contributing material for this week’s podcast.
Until next time, may God bless you.

Sep 25, 2025 • 39min
Ep. 512: Justin Murff and Digital Church’s Role in Reaching Closed Countries
Justin Murff is one of those guys I turn to when I want to sort out what is going on in the world. He has been, or is currently, an Anglican priest, a media executive, and advocate for religious freedom, a former Southern Baptist pastor, and a whole lot more. His innovative work has reshaped how faith communities engage unreached or poorly reached people groups in the digital age.
Currently, He is the Canon for Global Affairs to the General Secretary of GAFCON, the global fellowship of confessing Anglicans, which is a network of conservative Anglican provinces from around the world. He is also Canon for the Middle East and North Africa for ACNA, the Anglican Church in North America. On point for our conversation today, Justin also leads the Digital Church Network, helping to create opportunities for people in restricted nations to connect with the body of Christ.
In past lives he has been the Chief Development Officer for the Parental Rights Foundation, and official envoy to the Vatican for the Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN). His passion for bridging cultural divides led him to serve as Executive Director of the MENA Collective, a digital initiative that empowered over 150 ministries across the Middle East, North Africa, and Pakistan.
I had this conversation with Justin via zoom. He was at his home in Greenville, South Carolina.
The producer for today’s program is Jeff McIntosh. Until next time, may God bless you.

Sep 24, 2025 • 12min
Ep. 511: Why Christian Ministries Should Pay Attention to The Jimmy Kimmel Debacle
Christian ministries, especially Christian broadcasters, should pay attention to the Jimmy Kimmel situation. What’s happening to Kimmel now could be happening to Greg Laurie, David Jeremiah, Alistair Begg, Erwin Lutzer, or dozens of other broadcasters in a future administration.
The Wall Street Journal I reference in this episode can be found here.
The producer for today’s program is Jeff McIntosh.
Until next time, may God bless you.

Sep 19, 2025 • 29min
Ep. 510: World Vision, Largest Christian Schools, Why Pastors Quit Ministry
On today’s program, an anti-trafficking group based in North Carolina is being accused of exploiting the very women it is supposed to be helping. We’ll take a look.
And, World Vision’s CEO discusses humanitarian work in a post USAID world. We’ll have details.
Plus, factors that are forcing pastors to quit the ministry.
But first, eight leaders at the House of Prayer Christian Church in Georgia have been indicted for fraud and tax charges for defrauding banks through real estate schemes and funneling veterans’ benefits to its seminary. The indictment, unsealed on September 10, revealed that eight men associated with the church were charged with various crimes, including conspiracy to commit bank and wire fraud and assisting in filing a false tax return.
The producer for today’s program is Jeff McIntosh. We get database and other technical support from Stephen DuBarry, Rod Pitzer, and Casey Sudduth. Writers who contributed to today’s program include Kim Roberts, Daniel Ritchie, Makella Knowles, Tony Mator, Stacey Horton, Fiona André, Kenzie James, Aaron Earls—and you, Warren.
A special thanks to The Christian Chronicle and Lifeway Research for contributing material for this week’s podcast.
Until next time, may God bless you.

Sep 17, 2025 • 14min
Ep. 509: A Few Thoughts on the Life and Legacy of Charlie Kirk
The death of Charlie Kirk has caused a lot of soul searching by those on the left and the right, as it should. Al Mohler, writing for WORLD, said, “Every generation has its own formative moments. Yesterday is now one of those days.”
Charlie Kirk changed over the years. His near-permanent scowl, perhaps a young man’s attempt to be taken seriously, was replaced with a nearly perpetual smile, and regular outbursts of laughter. You could see in him joy, and compassion. He had the mind and the quick wit to bludgeon opponents, but a close look at his videos from more recent years shows someone who asks more questions than answers. Many of the videos you can find of Charlie on the Internet end with him smiling at an opponent who had just talked himself into a circle.
In a fascinating interview he gave with the Deseret News just weeks before his death, he said, “I could talk about religion all day long.”
The producer for today’s program is Jeff McIntosh. Until next time, may God bless you.

Sep 12, 2025 • 32min
Ep. 508: Charlie Kirk, Assemblies of God, Unlikely Heroes, and Arkansas Gambling
On today’s program, a Texas court is considering sanctions against the South Texas Assemblies of God for refusing to provide documents in a case related to its Chi Alpha college ministry. The denomination has been accused of allowing a convicted sexual predator to continue serving with college students. We’ll have details.
Plus, anti-trafficking group Unlikely Heroes has been accused of misusing a $100-thousand grant—the private foundation who issued the grant has just acquired the ministry’s assets after Unlikely Heroes filed for bankruptcy. We’ll take a look.
And, anti-gambling groups led by church leaders succeeds in blocking a casino from opening in its Arkansas community. It accomplished that by partnering with another nearby casino who was motivated by a desire to limit competition.
But first, Charlie Kirk died after being shot at a Utah college event.
The producer for today’s program is Jeff McIntosh. We get database and other technical support from Stephen DuBarry, Rod Pitzer, and Casey Sudduth. Writers who contributed to today’s program include Kim Roberts, Makella Knowles, Tony Mator, Stacey Horton, and Christina Darnell.
Until next time, may God bless you.

Sep 11, 2025 • 42min
Ep. 507: Michael Reneau of The Dispatch on Doug Wilson, Jen Hatmaker, and More
On today’s program, Warren Smith has one of his periodic “lightning round” talks with Michael Reneau of The Dispatch. This time, they dig into celebrity Christians, including Jen Hatmaker, Doug Wilson, Chip and Joanna Gaines, and others. They also discuss how Tim Keller is sort of an antidote to that, the “anti-celebrity celebrity.
They also discuss recent articles at The Dispatch regarding artificial intelligence, and a whole lot more.
We mention a couple of articles in the program. Here are links:
Patrick McNamara on AI
Bonnie Kristian’s article on Private Religion
Joseph Polidoro’s article on Creative Destruction
Before joining The Dispatch, Michael Reneau was the editor of WORLD Magazine. He also served as editor of the award-winning paper The Greenville Sun, based in Greenville, Tennessee. He is married and he and his wife have four children.
The producer for today’s program is Jeff McIntosh. Until next time, may God bless you.


