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On today’s program, the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission—the public policy arm of the Southern Baptist Convention—fired its president Brent Leatherwood this week…then less than 12 hours later reversed course and said he was NOT fired. We’ll have details. Also, Life Surge wealth conferences draw big audiences with its celebrity speaker lineup and wealth-building tools…we’re taking a closer look to see if it’s delivering on its promises. And, New York Theological Seminary closed its doors earlier this month—famous alumni include religious broadcaster Pat Robertson and author of the Message, Eugene Peterson. But first, the historic sanctuary of First Baptist Dallas, was engulfed in flames last week. The producer for today’s program is Jeff McIntosh.  We get database and other technical support from Stephen DuBarry, Rod Pitzer, and Casey Sudduth. Writers who contributed to today’s program include Bob Smietana, John Stonestreet, Timothy Padgett, Kim Roberts, Aaron Earls, Brittany Smith, and Christina Darnell. A special thanks to Breakpoint and Lifeway Research for contributing material for this week’s podcast. Until next time, may God bless you. COMPLETE MANUSCRIPT BELOW: FIRST SEGMENT   Warren Hello everybody. I’m Warren Smith, coming to you from Charlotte, North Carolina. Natasha  And I’m Natasha Cowden, coming to you from Denver, Colorado. And we’d like to welcome you to the MinistryWatch podcast. Warren On today’s program, the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission—the public policy arm of the Southern Baptist Convention—fired its president Brent Leatherwood this week…then less than 12 hours later reversed course and said he was NOT fired. We’ll have details. Also, Life Surge wealth conferences draw big audiences with its celebrity speaker lineup and wealth-building tools…we’re taking a closer look to see if it’s delivering on its promises. And, New York Theological Seminary closed its doors earlier this month—famous alumni include religious broadcaster Pat Robertson and author of the Message, Eugene Peterson. Natasha But first, the historic sanctuary of First Baptist Dallas, was engulfed in flames last week. Warren: A fire all but destroyed the historic church sanctuary at First Baptist Dallas, thankfully there were no deaths or injuries. The fire in the Texas Historic Landmark, church built in 1890, was reported about 6:30 p.m. Friday, and contained about three hours later. Natasha: Do we know what started the fire? Warren: Interim Fire Chief Justin Ball said the fire started in the basement, but until they do an investigation we won’t know. Senior Pastor Robert Jeffress said, “We are grateful that no one was injured…We just had 2,000 children and volunteers on campus for Vacation Bible School earlier in the day.” “We thank the Dallas Fire Department and Dallas Police Department for their quick action, courage, and ongoing aid,” Jeffress added. Natasha: Next, the SBC reverses course. Warren: In a head-scratching turn of events, the executive board of the Southern Baptist Convention’s public policy arm now says its leader has not been fired. On Monday evening (July 22), the SBC Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission announced Brent Leatherwood, the group’s president, had been fired — a day after he praised President Joe Biden for ending his reelection bid. Less than 12 hours later, the ERLC’s executive committee issued a new statement on Tuesday, saying Leatherwood would remain in leadership. Natasha: What happened? Warren: The committee said ERLC board chair Kevin Smith had acted on his own in announcing that Leatherwood was fired. Smith, a former seminary professor and denominational administrator who currently pastors a church in Florida, has resigned as ERLC chair, according to the statement. “There was not an authorized meeting, vote, or action taken by the Executive Committee,

Carlos Campo has one of the most interesting biographies I know about. His parents were entertainers who had hit records and a national profile in the 1940s and 50s. Carlos Campo’s mother was Betty Clooney, who with her sister Rosemary rose to the top of the music industry. That also makes Carlos Campo a part of a family that some consider entertainment royalty, a family that includes actor George Clooney, journalist and TV host Nick Clooney, and actor and voice over artist Miguel Ferrar. Campo was born in Las Vegas, where his parents performed. Though he received an undergraduate degree in theatre, his master’s and Ph.D. were in English, and he pursued a career in academia. He has served as president of two significant Christian institutions: Regent University and – most recently – Ashland University. However, after a nine-year tenure at Ashland, he recently resigned to become the new president of the Museum of the Bible. I’ve known Carlos Campo for a decade or more, and every time I get to visit with him is a treat. I know you’ll enjoy this conversation that ranges from his career in higher education to his decision to make a career pivot to lead the Museum of the Bible – along with some life and leadership lessons he has learned along the way. The producer for today’s program is Jeff McIntosh. We get database, editorial, and other support from Christina Darnell, Kim Roberts, Casey Suddeth, and Stephen Dubarry. Please join me on Friday for our round up of the week’s news, with my co-host Natasha Cowden. Until then, may God bless you.

On today’s program, Village Church Pastor Matt Chandler is under fire after his church hired a man who, in the past, was convicted of child sexual abuse. That man was his father. We’ll take a look. Also, Robert Morris—the Gateway Church pastor accused of abusing a young girl starting when she was 12 years old—is having his radio and tv programs canceled…and is receiving no severance after resigning from his posts. We’ll have details. And, the closure of another Christian college—the Florida campus of Johnson University is shutting down after low enrollment made it no longer sustainable. But first, former Christian billionaire Bill Hwang—once one of the wealthiest evangelicals in the U.S., celebrated as part of a “new evangelical donor-class”—he now faces the possibility of life behind bars. The producer for today’s program is Jeff McIntosh.  We get database and other technical support from Stephen DuBarry, Rod Pitzer, and Casey Sudduth. Writers who contributed to today’s program include Tony Mator, Kathryn Post, Kim Roberts, Bob Smietana, Jessica Eturralde, Daniel Ritchie, and Christina Darnell. A special thanks to Baptist Press for contributing material for this week’s podcast. Until next time, may God bless you.

For the past 100 years, radio has proven to be a persistent medium. Television, podcasts, and other digital media have taken their slices of the market, but radio has not gone away. In some ways it is as strong today as ever.  About eight in 10 Americans over the age of 12 listen to terrestrial radio in a given week. And as long as there has been radio, there has been Christian radio. In fact, Reginald Fessenden, a radio pioneer who held hundreds of patents, claims to have made the first radio broadcast, in 1906. And it was arguably a Christian radio program. He broadcast on Christmas Eve. Fessenden the carol O Holy Night on the violin. He closed the broadcast with a biblical passage: "Glory to God in the highest and on earth peace to men of good will" (Luke 2:14). Today, radio ministries are among the largest ministries on the MinistryWatch 1000 list. Even those ministries that are not radio ministries often have a radio component. Relief and development ministries such as World Vision, Compassion International, and Samaritan’s Purse use radio as part of their marketing, communications, and fundraising efforts. A new book looks at two pioneers of Christian radio: Fulton Sheen and Walter Maier. Sheen, a Catholic, and Maier, a Missouri Synod Lutheran, were unlikely prospects to become the biggest radio personalities in America, but that’s what happened, and the techniques they pioneered in the 1940s and 50s are still being used today. A new book examines these men, and provides a fascinating history of the rise of Christian radio. The book is Ministers of a New Medium, and it’s written by Kirk Farney. Farney is the vice president for advancement, vocation and alumni engagement – as well as a member of the faculty – at Wheaton College. We had this conversation via zoom. The producer for today’s program is Jeff McIntosh. We get technical, database, and other support from Christina Darnell, Casey Sudduth, Heidi Allums, and Stephen Dubarry. I’m your host, Warren Smith. Until Friday, may God bless you.

On today’s program, a South Carolina church is facing fallout after it became known that its pastor is a registered sex offender for abusing a minor. Leaders knew when they hired him, but didn’t alert members. We’ll have details. And, years ago a handful of Dallas-area churches that started as multi-site campuses of The Village Church transitioned to becoming independent churches as part of a church-planting initiative. We checked in to see how they are doing. Plus, another Christian university is shuttering its doors due to financial hardship. We’ll take a look. But first, a technology company has acquired two sister websites from Christianity Today. Gloo, a technology company that is behind the famous “He Gets Us” campaign has acquired two sister news sites from Christianity Today: Church Law & Tax and ChurchSalary. The producer for today’s program is Jeff McIntosh.  We get database and other technical support from Stephen DuBarry, Rod Pitzer, and Casey Sudduth. Writers who contributed to today’s program include Kim Roberts, Daniel Ritchie, Bob Smietana, Samuel Heard, Jessica Eturralde, Brittany Smith, and Christina Darnell. A special thanks to the Biblical Recorder for contributing material for this week’s podcast. Until next time, may God bless you.

We live in a polarized time. People with whom we disagree are not just wrong, but evil – or so we (and they) often think. John Inazu thinks that posture towards those with whom we disagree is neither helpful nor biblical. He thinks empathy, curiosity, and love – both loving our neighbors but also loving our enemies – is both a biblical approach, and an approach that is more likely to change hearts and minds. John Inazu is the Sally D. Danforth Distinguished Professor of Law and Religion at Washington University in St. Louis. His latest book, the one we’re discussing today, is Learning to Disagree: The Surprising Path to Navigating Differences with Empathy and Respect (Zondervan, 2024). Inazu is also the author of Liberty's Refuge: The Forgotten Freedom of Assembly (Yale University Press, 2012) and Confident Pluralism: Surviving and Thriving Through Deep Difference (University of Chicago Press, 2016). He is co-editor (with Tim Keller) of Uncommon Ground: Living Faithfully in a World of Difference (Thomas Nelson, 2020). Inazu is the founder of The Carver Project and the Legal Vocation Fellowship, a Senior Fellow with the Trinity Forum, and a Senior Fellow with Interfaith America, where he co-directs (with Eboo Patel) the Newbigin Fellows. The producer for today’s program is Jeff McIntosh. Until next time, may God bless you.

The book, "Jesus Calling," has sold more than 45 million copies, but it has been the object of criticism from its first publication date in 2004 until now. The Presbyterian Church in America’s decision to do an in-depth study of the book is a gift to the broader Christian church, presenting the opportunity to settle controversies about the book once and for all.

On today’s program, the Christian Reformed Church synod have voted to suspend leaders within the denomination who approve of LGBTQ lifestyles…their message: repent or disaffiliate. We’ll have details. Also, ministries continue to distance themselves from megachurch pastor Robert Morris after a woman claimed he abused her starting when she was 12 years old. We’ll look at the latest. And, a new report shows that donors gave more in 2023…but the real dollar impact was rocked by inflation. But first, the Church of the Nazarene’s only seminary is getting pushback for platforming Pro-LGBTQ faculty and speakers. The producer for today’s program is Jeff McIntosh.  We get database and other technical support from Stephen DuBarry, Rod Pitzer, and Casey Sudduth. Writers who contributed to today’s program include Ethan Meyers, Tony Mator, Kim Roberts, Marci Seither, Jessica Eturralde, Chloë-Arizona Fodor, Paul Clolery, Brittany Smith, and Christina Darnell. A special thanks to The NonProfit Times for contributing material for this week’s podcast. Until next time, may God bless you.

Christian colleges and universities are in a tough spot. Spiraling costs and shrinking demographics, plus technological and other cultural concerns, are putting unprecedented pressure on them. We’ve reported on the closures of many Christian colleges here at MinistryWatch, and our reporting has barely touched the magnitude of the problem. According to Higher Ed Dive, at least 116 colleges have closed since 2016. Between 2010 and 2020, 29 Christian colleges closed or merged with other schools. On today’s extra episode, Warren Smith discusses what is happening at Cornerstone University, Montreat College, and LeTourneau University – and what we can learn from these institutions. The producer for today’s program is Jeff McIntosh. Until next time, may God bless you.

On today’s program, Megachurch Pastor Robert Morris resigns as senior pastor of Gateway Church after a woman claims he abused her decades ago starting when she was 12 years old. We’ll have details. And, Lincoln Christian University closes its doors debt free…with plans to continue its ministry through a new institute. We’ll take a look. And, Southern Baptist Convention legend Paul Pressler died earlier this month, his legend mired with accusations of sexual abuse. But first, Appalachian Bible College fired two professors after they filed a complaint with the Association for Biblical Higher Education. The producer for today’s program is Jeff McIntosh.  We get database and other technical support from Stephen DuBarry, Rod Pitzer, and Casey Sudduth. Writers who contributed to today’s program include Jessica Eturralde, Brittany Smith, Kim Roberts, Bob Smietana, Christina Darnell, and Warren Smith Until next time, may God bless you.