
A New and Ancient Story: The Podcast
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Nov 5, 2019 • 45min
Gigi Coyle: What is Mine to Do? - Part 2 (E42)
Part Two of my conversation with Gigi Coyle explores the process of transforming pain and turmoil that is intensely reflecting back to us from the world (natural disasters, forest fires, potlics, etc..). How do we find the gifts hidden in these situations? How do we not go crazy trying not to go crazy?
This is Part Two of a two-part conversation. You can find Part One at:
https://charleseisenstein.org/podcasts/new-and-ancient-story-podcast/gigi-coyle-what-is-mine-to-do-e42/
More about Gigi's work:
http://schooloflostborders.org/content/virginia-gigi-coyle

Nov 5, 2019 • 1h 21min
Gigi Coyle: What is Mine to Do? - Part 1 (E42)
What is mine to do? This is the mantra of Gigi Coyle, a revered veteran of social, political, and spiritual movements going back to the 1970s. Gigi was instrumental in the founding of the Ojai Foundation, Youth Passageways, Beyond Boundaries, and other groups. She is a true elder, someone whose experiences, successes, and especially failures give birth to wisdom in the soil of her humility. I hope listeners benefit as much from this conversation as I did.
This is Part One of a two-part conversation. You can find Part Two at:
https://charleseisenstein.org/podcasts/new-and-ancient-story-podcast/gigi-coyle-what-is-mine-to-do-e42/
More about Gigi's work:
http://schooloflostborders.org/content/virginia-gigi-coyle

Oct 16, 2019 • 58min
Zack Geist: Dispelling the Mystery of Debt (E41)
This conversation with Zack Geist addresses the phenomenon of debt, both from a theoretical standpoint and in very practical terms (at least for US listeners). Zack operates a business that liberates people from student loans and other debt. We discuss the morality of debt, debt peonage, and the crushing realities of debt in America. This is a conversation between a philosopher (me) and someone who works with real people deep inside the system.
To learn more about Zack Geist's work, please visit https://learn.studentloantutor.com/magic/

Oct 7, 2019 • 55min
Robin McKenna: GIFT(E40)
In this conversation, filmmaker Robin McKenna and I discuss her new film, GIFT, which is inspired by Lewis Hyde's classic book, The Gift. I consider Hyde to be an elder of an intellectual/spiritual lineage that has also informed a lot of my work, in particular the book Sacred Economics and the course, Living in the Gift. Here we travel through many dimensions of the gift universe as well as the process, content, and impact of this film, which opens in theaters on Oct. 11.
From the film description, "GIFT is a tribute to something that can’t be measured or counted, bought or sold. Exploring the parallels between artists’ work and a gift economy, it’s a reflection on the creative process, the reasons we labour in service of our gifts."
GIFT Trailer: https://vimeo.com/283716447
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GIFTdocumentary/
Information on upcoming screenings:
http://www.giftitforwardproject.com/the-film/screenings/
Also, check out my book Sacred Economics http://charleseisenstein.org/books/sacred-economics/ and the course, Living in the Gift https://charleseisenstein.org/courses/living-in-the-gift/ to explore this subject in depth.

Sep 17, 2019 • 1h 1min
Kelly Brogan: Get Real, Get Well, Get Free (E39)
I describe Kelly Brogan as a “renegade psychiatrist” – someone who abandoned a prestigious career “in the system” to become a critic of pharmaceutical psychiatry and an advocate for holistic therapy. She is also a dear friend and ally whom I appreciate for her courage, creativity, and intellect. We covered a lot of ground in this conversation, medical, philosophical, and spiritual. Some of the main themes were: ending the war on pain, reclaiming personal sovereignty in physical and mental health, the power of “I don’t know,” and the passage to authentic personal and cultural adulthood. We also discuss her powerful new book, Own Your Self (https://amzn.to/32XjBpF).

Aug 16, 2019 • 1h 5min
Cynthia Jurs: On Synchronicity and Sacrifice (E38)
This conversation with my good friend Cynthia Jurs was originally recorded for my online course, Living in the Gift. It was a meditative, engaging experience with synchronicities that showed up to support the flow of our stories and connection with one another. Truly, it was a lived experience of gift just to be in her presence and allow meaning to unfold, as I hope you will also sense in listening to this slow, deep, and joyful conversation on ideas that are central to synchronicity and sacrifice.
Our conversation weaves together various themes explored in Living in the Gift. To learn more, go here: charleseisenstein.org/gift

Jul 18, 2019 • 1h
Lynne Twist: A Conversation About Living in the Gift (E37)
Lynne Twist is the author of The Soul of Money and co-founder of the Pachamama Alliance. This conversation weaves together various themes explored in my online course, Living in the Gift: https://charleseisenstein.org/gift

Jun 14, 2019 • 1h 14min
Helena Norberg-Hodge: Local is the Future (E36)
Helena Norberg-Hodge is a revered elder in the movement seeking alternatives to the present course of economic globalism and cultural homogenization. Her film on Ladakh, Ancient Futures, was a major influence on my work. Here we talk about what is drawing so many people back to the local, back to the land, back to place, and back to a culture of belonging.

Apr 3, 2019 • 1h 5min
Brian Swimme: The Cosmos Watching Itself (E35)
Brian Swimme is a mathematical cosmologist and philosopher. We went really deep in this conversation: the limits of human knowledge, cosmic evolution, science as a road to the sacred, and other speculations. I loved this fun, humorous, and mind-stretching conversation, and had the feeling that together we reached a place that neither could have reached alone.

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Mar 21, 2019 • 1h 39min
Daniel Schmachtenberger: Self-terminating Civilization (E34)
Daniel Schmactenberger is a brilliant and innovative social philosopher and founding member of the Consilience Project. Here he outlines some of the foundations of his worldview as we discuss exponential tech, self-terminating social and technological processes, the future of humanity, the nature of the present crisis, and the necessity of a transition to non-rivalrous systems.