
Design Better
Design Better co-hosts Eli Woolery and Aarron Walter explore the intersection of design, technology, and the creative process through conversations with guests across many creative fields, helping you hone your craft, unlock your creativity, and learn the art of collaboration.Whether you’re design curious or a design pro, Design Better is guaranteed to inspire and inform. Vanity Fair calls Design Better, “sharp, to the point, and full of incredibly valuable information for anyone looking to better understand how to build a more innovative world.”
Latest episodes

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Oct 19, 2023 • 1h 3min
Bonus Episode: Matt D Smith from Shift Nudge on the elements of a great user interface
Matt D Smith, founder of Shift Nudge, talks about the elements of a great UI, typography and color theory, and common mistakes in UI design. He also discusses the challenges faced by liberal arts design students and the potential of AI and machine learning in interface design.

Oct 10, 2023 • 54min
Llisa Demetrios: Ray and Charles Eames's granddaughter on their legacy and influence on mid century modern design
Llisa Demetrios, Chief Curator of the Eames Office, shares personal stories about her grandparents, Charles and Ray Eames. They were influential mid-century modern designers who saw design as problem-solving, creating wood-like splints for soldiers during the war. The podcast also explores the Eames' early lives, collaboration, 'Powers of 10' film, and the history of Heath Ceramics.

Oct 4, 2023 • 56min
Bonus Episode: Bayard Winthrop, CEO of American Giant
Bayard Winthrop, CEO of American Giant, shares insights on the intersection of design and entrepreneurship. Highlights include their mission of making durable clothing, the importance of attention to detail, and the origin story of American Giant. They also discuss collaboration during the pandemic and the impact of American manufacturing on smaller towns.

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Sep 27, 2023 • 1h 10min
Ed Catmull: Creative lessons from Lucasfilm to Pixar and beyond
Ed Catmull, co-founder of Pixar and pioneer of computer graphics and digital animation techniques, discusses his transition from creating things himself to leading creative teams. He shares insights on fostering a creative culture, giving and receiving feedback, the impact of new technologies on the creative process, and the intersection of technology, film, and visual arts. He also reveals stories about his collaboration with Steve Jobs.

Sep 12, 2023 • 49min
David Sedaris: How observation and prototyping shapes his work
David Sedaris, known for his acute observation skills, discusses his unique process of prototyping essays in front of live audiences. They also explore the role of fear in his creative process. The podcast covers topics such as the importance of observing people in the design process and the challenges of writing about sensitive subjects with honesty and respect.

Aug 24, 2023 • 1min
Design Better Trailer
Design Better is a podcast that explores the creative process and design's intersection with technology. It features conversations with inspiring guests across various creative fields. The show aims to inspire and inform, providing valuable insights for building a more innovative world.

Aug 22, 2023 • 17min
Design Better's New Adventure: Exciting changes to the show
The hosts celebrate their 100th episode of the podcast and announce exciting changes. They reflect on their journey, express gratitude, and discuss their newfound independence. They tease upcoming guests and highlight upcoming series on the creative process and design history. The importance of curiosity in design is explored, and exciting future episodes and AMAs are teased.

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Aug 19, 2023 • 1h 4min
Bonus Episode with Don Norman: Panel discussion on designing a better world
Renowned scholar and author Don Norman leads a panel discussion on how design can solve humanity's biggest challenges. Topics include the role of design in socio-economic challenges, humanity-centered vs human-centered design, and creating a better future for all.

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Aug 8, 2023 • 52min
Ole Lütjens: The story behind the Disney+ launch
Subscribe for free to our show on Substack to receive episodes a week early, bonus content like post-show discussions, and more: https://designbetterpodcast.com/Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/ole-lutjens-evidence-based-designWhat was it like to lead product design at Disney through the creation of Disney+, one of its biggest launches in the digital age? And how did a designer from Germany become a design leader for Major League Baseball, when he knew almost nothing about the sport? We talk to Ole Lütjens, former VP of Product Design at Disney, about the arc of his career, from his early days in the electronic music scene through his roles at MLB Advanced Media, Hulu and Disney. We also talk about evidence-based design, the Nemawashi method, and why designer storytelling can be too fast.BioOle Lütjens is a design executive with over 25 years of experience building and leading product design teams. He was formerly the Vice President of Product Design at Disney Streaming where he oversaw UX for Disney+, Hulu and Star+.Throughout his career, he’s been generating and implementing new ideas about the design and technology of content interaction. He’s interested in new models of experience and storytelling and has been fortunate to work with thought leaders in diverse industries on the cutting edge of technology since the 90s. This episode is brought to you by:Methodical Coffee: Roasted, blended, brewed, served and perfected by verified coffee nerds 🤓 : https://methodicalcoffee.com/(use code "designbetter" for 10% off of your order).Freehand by InVision: The intelligent whiteboard that's half the price of Miro and Mural: https://freehandapp.com/Help us make the show even better by taking a short survey: www.dbtr.co/surveyIf you're interested in sponsoring the show, please contact us at: sponsors@thecuriositydepartment.comIf you'd like to submit a guest idea, please contact us at: contact@thecuriositydepartment.com

Jul 25, 2023 • 54min
Georg Petschnigg: Product design and storytelling at The New York Times
Subscribe to the Design Better Podcast on Substack to get episodes a week early and other bonus content: https://designbetterpodcast.com/Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/georg-petschnigg-product-design-and#details***The New York Times has gone through many challenges and evolutions during its storied history. Founded in 1851—when it was called the New-York Daily Times—it faced draft riots during the Civil War, received the first telegraph transmission from a naval battle in 1904, and was involved in libel suits in the 1960’s that helped establish freedom of the press through the US Supreme CourtBut it’s within the past 25 years or so that the “Newspaper of Record” has undergone some of its most radical transformations: shifting much of its focus away from the printed page to the web and app ecosystem, and expanding into food with NYT Cooking, consumer product reviews with The Wirecutter, and podcasts with The Daily.Today we chat with Georg Petschnigg, SVP of Product Design at the New York Times, about what it takes to balance the tension between the rich legacy of the Times with the rapidly evolving digital landscape. We also talk about designing across products and platforms for a more unified experience, creating a tight coupling between design and engineering, and what the future holds for news products in a world where AI and ML can facilitate content creation but also manufacture deception.Before we get to the show, we wanted to let you know about a cool project that our friend Felix Lee started called ADPList.If you’re early in your career, or if you’re in the midst of a transition, you might want to connect with top-notch professionals in design.Well, now you can now tap into the knowledge and wisdom of some of the most prominent figures in the design industry. And best of all, it's completely free! ADPList is a community platform on a mission to democratize mentorship for all, with over 16,000 verified mentors contributing worldwide; opening up an entire world of possibilities for mentorship and networking.Join ADPList today—for free—and accelerate your career growth.Visit https://dbtr.co/adplistBioGeorg Petschnigg is an executive, entrepreneur, and product leader. He feels most comfortable at the intersection of design, technology, and business. He currently serves as Head of Product Design at The New York Times.Throughout his career, he’s created products that changed how people work, create, and see the world. He believes technology needs to serve the human need to create. Georg co-founded FiftyThree in 2011 and served as CEO until WeTransfer’s acquisition in 2018. FiftyThree are the makers of Paper®, the fast and beautiful productivity app for getting ideas down, Paste® the fastest way for teams to share and gather around their ideas, and Pencil, the award-winning stylus. Internationally recognized for design excellence and innovation, they’ve received awards from Apple, IDSA, Communication Arts, and IxDA. FiftyThree’s products reach more than 30 Million creative thinkers worldwide and defined mobile creativity. This episode is brought to you by:Methodical Coffee: Roasted, blended, brewed, served and perfected by verified coffee nerds 🤓 : https://methodicalcoffee.com/(use code "designbetter" for 10% off of your order).Help us make the show even better by taking a short survey: www.dbtr.co/surveyIf you're interested in sponsoring the show, please contact us at: sponsors@thecuriositydepartment.comIf you'd like to submit a guest idea, please contact us at: contact@thecuriositydepartment.comLinksGeorg Petschnigg on Design Matters by Debbie Millman