
Thrivecast: A Podcast for Accountants
Welcome to the Thrivecast, a show about accounting leadership and growth that’s now two decades in the making! Our host, Jason Blumer, CPA, interviews the best accounting minds on the planet, bringing you engaging accounting entrepreneurial lessons and principles designed to help you grow just by listening. So, jump right into our ocean of info—the water’s warm!
Latest episodes

Jun 25, 2025 • 38min
Episode 168: Navigating Cross-Border Accounting Excellence with Katrina Nacci
In this episode, we chat with Katrina Nacci, a CPA based in Frankfurt, Germany who helps European companies navigate US accounting standards. Originally from Boston, Katrina describes her work as "bridging the gap with two A's" - taking companies from local European accounting to US GAAP or IFRS when they're seeking American investors or planning IPOs.
After 12 years abroad and experience at PwC and in private equity, Katrina found her niche with scale-up companies in the $30-50 million revenue range. Her approach leverages clients' internal teams through collaborative "GAAP summits" where she guides finance departments through accounting differences, making the process more cost-effective than larger firms.
Interestingly, Katrina often discovers companies struggle not just with accounting standard differences, but with correctly applying their current standards. She works across the UK, Germany, Netherlands and other European countries, each with their own requirements.
Despite initial language barriers, Katrina has adapted to life in Europe, traveling monthly throughout the continent. She reflects on her growth from a "dorky technical accountant" to a confident business owner with a unique specialization at the intersection of European and American financial requirements.

May 26, 2025 • 40min
Episode 167: Moving Beyond Being Just a Service Provider with Sarah Acton
Sarah Acton, Chief Customer Officer at BILL, shares her insights on transforming the accounting profession. She argues that accountants should evolve beyond traditional service roles to become technology advisors. Embracing AI and automation can free professionals to focus on building genuine client relationships. Acton emphasizes the importance of understanding client needs and encourages accountants to experiment and guide clients through tech adoption fears. Ultimately, authenticity and efficiency are key to establishing credibility and driving success.

Apr 25, 2025 • 47min
Episode 166: Accounting Leadership Evolution: Building an Abundance Mindset with Michael Horwitz
Michael Horwitz, Executive Director at BDO Alliance USA, brings a wealth of experience from international economics to the accounting scene. He delves into the significance of collaboration among accounting firms, highlighting the benefits of innovative alliances. The discussion touches on trends like employee stock ownership plans (ESOPs) and their positive impacts on company culture. Horwitz also advocates for a rethink of educational requirements, pushing for more experiential learning to attract diverse talent and address workforce challenges in the industry.

Mar 25, 2025 • 47min
Episode #165: Leadership Development in Accounting Firms: Beyond Technical Skills with Scott J. Allen, Ph.D
In this engaging discussion, Dr. Scott J. Allen, an award-winning educator and leadership consultant, shares insights on the importance of leadership in accounting firms. He explains why top technical experts aren't always the best leaders and how to nurture suitable career paths for them. Dr. Allen emphasizes the necessity of emotional intelligence and communication in leadership, especially post-pandemic. He also highlights practical strategies for measuring leadership effectiveness and fostering a positive organizational culture. A must-listen for anyone in or aspiring to leadership roles!

Feb 25, 2025 • 51min
Episode #164: Enhancing Workflow and Efficiency with Rob Nixon
Welcome to Thrivecast! In today’s episode, Jason Blumer sits down with Rob Nixon, a global expert in driving profitability for accounting firms.
They unpack the nitty-gritty of critical utilization, productivity, and efficiency concepts. They’ll explore how the pandemic has reshaped virtual work, the historical changes in accounting efficiency, succession planning, and transforming firms into vehicles for wealth creation.
Tune in as they uncover strategies for firm owners to balance profitability, efficiency, and personal fulfillment. Whether you’re aiming for practice improvement or transitioning to an investor level, this episode is packed with actionable insights!

Jan 27, 2025 • 20min
Episode #163: Embracing Change in 2025 with Jason Blumer
Jason reflects on the lessons from recent challenges and embraces new beginnings within the accounting profession. He announces the end of The Businessology Show to focus on growth and innovation. The discussion emphasizes the importance of flexibility and bold choices in evolving businesses. Listeners are encouraged to recommit to their paths, find new value for clients, and approach the new year with energy and a commitment to change. This journey promises renewed opportunities and a brighter future for all in the industry.

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Dec 23, 2024 • 52min
Episode #162: Modern Leadership in Accounting with Brett Kelly
Brett Kelly, the founder and CEO of Kelly Partners Group, discusses modern leadership and innovative strategies in accounting. He highlights the shift towards bottom-up leadership, emphasizing the alignment of business practices with core values. The conversation explores the growing importance of long-term vision over short-term gains, and how transformative leadership can unlock potential in teams. Brett also addresses the need for a people-oriented approach, advocating for dignity in the accounting profession and the power of storytelling to enhance its impact.

Nov 25, 2024 • 48min
Episode #161 Entrepreneurial Growth and Smart Restructuring with Ian Vacin
Welcome back to The Thrivecast! Today, Jason sits down for part 2 of his episode with Ian Vacin where they finish their teaching from the highly successful Deeper Weekend conference. This episode is a follow up from Ian’s sessions at Deeper Weekend and they dive into the Qualitative Research they are doing for their upcoming book on Human Capacity.
Come learn about the 7 qualitative research findings that help firms reach profitability and firm success.

Oct 22, 2024 • 44min
Episode #160: Boosting Firm Efficiency with Ian Vacin
Welcome back to Thrivecast! In today’s episode, Jason chats with Ian Vacin, co-founder and chief customer officer of Karbon. Known for his extensive background in industrial engineering, high tech manufacturing, and an MBA, Ian brings a wealth of industry knowledge to the table.
Together, they dive deep into the intricacies of capacity planning and resource management for accounting firms, drawing from their own collaboration history and experiences on road shows.
They’ll give us a sneak peek into their latest endeavor: co-writing a book on "human capacity," blending extensive research with anecdotal wisdom to tackle the complexities of scaling service-based businesses. From labor cost challenges to the nuanced art of outsourcing staff, Ian and Jason share invaluable insights that can help any entrepreneur navigate the choppy waters of growth and organizational design!

Sep 25, 2024 • 44min
Episode #159: Strategic Tax Planning and Leadership with Jackie Meyer
Welcome back to Thrivecast! In today's episode, Jason and Jackie Meyer, dive into the dynamic world of tax planning and strategic leadership. Holding a doctorate in strategic leadership, Jackie discusses the significance of setting personal boundaries, the value of in-person meetings, and her journey in hiring a CEO to focus on her book and career advancements.
We'll explore the high ROI potential of tax planning, the importance of strategic pricing, and how Jackie's SaaS product, Tax Plan IQ, is transforming the accounting industry. Join them as they navigate through the distinctions of tax advisory services, manage a busy schedule, and discover the limitless potential within the profession!