

ESG Decoded Podcast
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ESG Decoded is a podcast powered by ClimeCo to share updates related to business innovation and sustainability in a clear and actionable manner.
Join Emma Cox, Erika Schiller, and Anna Stablum for thoughtful, nuanced conversations with industry leaders and subject matter experts that explore the complexities of the risks and opportunities connected to (E)nvironmental, (S)ocial and (G)overnance.
We like to say that “ESG is everything that’s not on your balance sheet.” This leaves room for misunderstanding and oversimplification – two things that we’ll bust on this podcast.
Join Emma Cox, Erika Schiller, and Anna Stablum for thoughtful, nuanced conversations with industry leaders and subject matter experts that explore the complexities of the risks and opportunities connected to (E)nvironmental, (S)ocial and (G)overnance.
We like to say that “ESG is everything that’s not on your balance sheet.” This leaves room for misunderstanding and oversimplification – two things that we’ll bust on this podcast.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Feb 24, 2022 • 31min
Chris Parker Explains Plastic Credits
ESG Decoded is the podcast powered by Global Affairs Associates, a ClimeCo company to share relevant updates related to business innovation and sustainability in a manner that is clear and actionable.
In this episode, Kaitlyn Allen talks with Chris Parker, Director of the Plastics Program at ClimeCo. Chris joined ClimeCo in 2021 with 20+ years of experience in energy and commodity markets, sustainability, conservation, and ESG. He leads ClimeCo’s plastic market program, which partners with projects worldwide to recover and recycle plastic waste. This program expands financing mechanisms to scale the transition to a closed-loop economy while providing companies with ESG & CSR solutions that support ecosystem restoration. Before joining ClimeCo, Chris consulted and led projects in both the corporate and environmental non-profit sectors to create business solutions for a sustainable economy.
Chris holds a Bachelor of Science in Corporate Finance & Investment Management from the University of Alabama.
Plastic credits are an exciting new environmental commodity meant to clean up oceans! Plastic credits allow companies to offset their plastic footprint as they represent the recovery and recycling of one ton of plastic material, which can be transferred between companies and organizations. Through ClimeCo Green, individuals can even purchase their own plastic credits to offset their household’s plastic use. Listen as Kaitlyn and Chris talk about the projects and certifications supporting plastic currency, the positive social co-benefits for communities, and why this should matter to companies and investors.
This may be a new topic for even the most season ESG professional, so there are several resource boosts for this episode:
--Verra - https://verra.org/
--Ocean bound plastics certification by Zero Plastic Oceans - Certifications for Oceans' Protection - Ocean Bound Plastic Certification (obpcert.org)
--TonToTon – Vietnam plastic credits project TONTOTON - Neutralize Plastic Footprint, ONE TON AT A TIME !
--ClimeCo Green – offset your own plastic footprint ClimeCo Green - Carbon offsets | Carbon footprint | Carbon calculator
When Chris takes a break from being a true thought leader and innovator in the ESG space, he enjoys his time at home in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, with his wife, two daughters, and two rescue dogs. He also practices Kendo and looks forward to free time spent surfing, climbing, fishing, and playing chess.
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Feb 16, 2022 • 26min
Ben Metz Discusses The Chancery Lane Project
ESG Decoded is the podcast powered by Global Affairs Associates, a ClimeCo company to share relevant updates related to business innovation and sustainability in a manner that is clear and actionable.
In this episode, Amanda Hsieh talks with Ben Metz, Executive Director of The Chancery Lane Project (TCLP) which is working to rewire contractual law to fight climate change. Prior to TCLP, Ben was a founding member of Big Lottery Funds Community Recycling and Economic Development, Director for Ashoka in the UK, and a multi-faceted consultant in the ESG space. Ben is energized by assisting people to create systems and networks that enable them to shape the world around them for the better.
Listen as Amanda and Ben discuss the origins of TCLP, its mission and its work. TCLP is a collaborative effort of legal professionals from across the globe whose vision is a world where every contract enables solutions to climate change. They create new, practical contractual clauses ready to incorporate into law firm precedents and commercial agreements to deliver climate solutions. TCLP then works with lawyers to ensure effective and impactful implementation of the clauses, across industries, practice areas and jurisdictions. Once you hear more about the work, you will want to get involved!
Resource boosts for this episode:
Toolkit | The Chancery Lane Project
Net Zero Toolkit
Clauses (which enable lawyers to align their work with a decarbonized economy)
Salesforce & Practical Law US (case studies of TCLP’s work with international companies)
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Feb 8, 2022 • 28min
Ian Van Der Vlugt, VP of Product & Research at Datamaran, on AI in ESG and Dissolving the Roadblocks in Disclosure and Reporting
In this episode, Amanda Hsieh talks with Ian Van Der Vlugt, VP of Product & Research for Datamaran, a software analytics platform that monitors external ESG risks in real-time and brings a data-driven business process for materiality analysis. Ian manages product development, working with internal and external stakeholders to deliver the greatest product value for clients. He also oversees the creation of product-related data, content, and research. Before joining Datamaran, Ian was the head of the data team at CDP (formerly the Carbon Disclosure Project), managing the organization's data cleaning and modeling work and associated projects, primarily through a climate change lens. He also previously worked at the Global Reporting Initiative (GRI), growing its Sustainability Disclosure Database, and bridging technical and content work.
In the space of ESG reporting, policy and technology, things are evolving quickly. From remote sensing, to blockchain, to AI, there is a lot to know…but ESG Decoded has you covered! Listen as Amanda and Ian review the concept of materiality from an ESG perspective and discuss how AI is improving the materiality assessment process and increasing efficiencies related to disclosures and reporting. As with other ESG/Sustainability topics, the views on these issues may vary based on the region of the world.
As a resource boost for this episode, it was recently announced that Deloitte & Touche SpA is also using Datamaran to expand their research and analytics capabilities in conducting assurance of sustainability disclosure by providing evidence-based insights.
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Jan 25, 2022 • 22min
Fariyal Khanbabi, Dialight Group CEO & Chairman of Dialight Foundation, on Sustainability and the Importance of Gender-Balanced Boards
ESG Decoded is the podcast powered by Global Affairs Associates, a ClimeCo
company to share relevant updates related to business innovation and
sustainability in a manner that is clear and actionable.
In this episode, Amanda Hsieh talks with Fariyal Khanbabi, Dialight Group CEO &
Chairman of Dialight Foundation. Dialight is the world leader in LED industrial
lighting technology (listed on the London Stock Exchange) with millions of LED
fixtures installed worldwide. It launched its first LED product 51 years ago and
continues to innovate in LED lighting technology. Fariyal is the 2020 winner of Silver
Stevie® Award in the Woman of the Year – Manufacturing category. Prior to
Dialight, she held the positions of Chief Financial Officer for Blue Ocean Group Ltd.
and Chief Financial Officer at Britannia Bulk Holdings, Inc., and Chief Financial
Officer at Britannia Bulk Plc (a subsidiary of Britannia Bulk Holdings, Inc.). Fariyal
received an undergraduate degree from the University of Leeds.
Listen as Amanda and Fariyal discuss how Dialight is helping its customers meet
their environmental and safety goals by focusing on fully recyclable products and
lighting designs that reduce pollution. We are reminded of ‘other’ benefits of
sustainability: 1) how it can increase employee engagement and strengthen
company culture and 2) it can be a driver in meeting company financial goals.
They also discuss a topic that has received increasing airplay in the past few years,
gender-balanced boards. Unlike many other companies, Dialight did not just talk
about gender-balanced boards, they took action! This topic is important for men
and women. While women are navigating the path to leadership opportunities, men
need to know how to show up as allies on the journey. We want to engage with you
about this episode. Share your best practices related to gender-balanced boards.
We still have a lot of ground to cover.
As a resource boost, learn more about Dialight Foundation which is dedicated to
transforming the lives of people in need in the communities around Dialight
facilities, with a focus on children and youth, providing them with the resources to
become beacons of light. http://www.dialight.com/dialight-foundation/
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Jan 13, 2022 • 38min
Erica Lasdon, Capital Markets Director, on Cutting Through the Noise to Set Your ESG Strategy
In this episode, Kaitlyn Allen talks with Erica Lasdon, Senior Director, Capital
Markets for ClimeCo. Erica joined ClimeCo in 2021 after serving as a Senior
Consultant with Global Affairs Associates, LLC. A seasoned ESG professional
bringing over 20 years of experience from the investment and non-profit sectors,
she specializes in ESG integration, materiality analysis, investment trends, and
engagement strategy. Erica has deep expertise in multi-stakeholder engagement,
proxy voting, and ESG data analysis and management across a wide range of asset
classes. She served on the development team for the Sustainability Accounting
Standards Board’s Level II exam for the inaugural FSA credential, the Steering
Committee for the Intentional Endowments Network, and as an Advisory Committee
Member for the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation’s Culture of Health for Business
framework. Erica earned a B.S. in Biology and a B.A. in History from the University
of California, San Diego. She loves skiing, exploring new places, and any activity
involving excellent food.
The topic of ESG has come a long way in a short period of time. Establishing an
actionable ESG strategy has evolved from a nice-to-have to a business imperative.
While this process may appear to be a complicated undertaking, listen as Kaitlyn
and Erica provide guidance on how to approach this strategic development
exercise...which may be a great way to start the new year. Erica lends her
expertise on areas of focus for planning, frameworks and benchmarks to consider
for impact measurement, and the connective tissue between ESG strategy and
other corporate strategies. There is also discussion on ‘green finance’ which are
financial instruments created for a better environmental outcome.
We hope that this episode will decode the complexities related to ESG strategic
planning and serve as a helpful resource for key stakeholders for these short-term
and long-term plans. Subscribe to ESG Decoded where you consume your
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Dec 29, 2021 • 23min
Jason Roe Discusses the Business of Eliminating Flaring
In this episode, Kaitlyn Allen talks with Jason Roe. Jason is CEO & President of
EcoVapor Recovery Systems, a company dedicated to helping industries improve
their environmental and financial sustainability with innovative technology. Prior to
joining EcoVapor, Jason was CEO of Avitas, a Baker Hughes venture focused on
emissions monitoring and detection strategies enabled through robotics, AI, and
digital techniques. Before that, he served as President and Chief Executive Officer
of XACT Downhole Telemetry. Jason received his B.S. in Finance from the Leeds
School of Business at the University of Colorado at Boulder.
Flaring and venting of natural gas during oil and gas production operations results
in the release of methane, one of the most potent greenhouse gases. Sometimes,
flaring is necessary for safety, such as to prevent blowouts. But routine flaring is
problematic for a few reasons: harmful releases of methane to the environment,
waste of a non-renewable resource, and loss of revenue. Companies are looking for
ways to reduce or eliminate routine flaring, as is prescribed by the World Economic
Forum, to reduce the impact of methane releases to the environment, reduce scope
1 emissions, and sell instead of waste a product that currently heats homes and
powers stoves. Listen as Kaitlyn and Jason discuss Ecovapor’s technology which
helps oil and gas companies to reduce their Scope 1 emissions (direct emissions
from company-controlled resources). Their conversation also touches on:
That natural gas is still a fuel source in the International Energy Agency
(IEA) Sustainable Development Scenario, so we need to make it
operationally carbon neutral.
Shared technology from the oil field across other forms of energy
Renewable natural gas
How carbon reduction goals can go hand in hand with poverty reduction
goals.
The information shared in this episode is solutions-focused with the intention to
educate on how we can all make the most impact, especially as we enter in the new
year.
Resource Boost:
--Ecovapor Recovery Systems - ecovaporrs.com
--International Energy Agency Sustainable Development Scenario –
https://www.iea.org/reports/world-energy-model/sustainable-development-scenario-
sds
--Goldman Sachs Carbonomics Report:
https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/pages/gs-research/carbonomics-f/
report.pdf
Thanks to everyone who connected to ESG Decoded this year! It’s been a great year
and we look forward to all that is to come in 2022. Subscribe to ESG Decoded
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Dec 1, 2021 • 42min
ClimeCo’s Bill Flederbach & Emily Damon Discuss the Acquisition of GAA, Carbon Markets, and COP26
Get ready for some great news! This is a monumental episode for ESG Decoded as
GAA announces its acquisition by ClimeCo, a leader in the management and
development of environmental commodities and deployment of sustainability
solutions. To mark this exciting development, Kaitlyn Allen is joined by Bill
Flederbach and Emily Damon.
Bill is ClimeCo’s President and CEO. He co-founded ClimeCo in 2009 and three
years later acquired all company shares to assume full ownership. Under his charge,
ClimeCo has grown rapidly from a pioneer in N2O abatement projects to a respected
leader in the environmental commodities market.
Emily is VP of Sustainability, Policy and Advisory, leading the consulting business
unit at ClimeCo. Emily specializes in ESG performance and disclosure. She also has
deep expertise in corporate climate strategy, including greenhouse gas accounting,
target-setting, abatement strategy, energy efficiency, and renewable energy.
Before joining ClimeCo in early 2021, Emily spent over a dozen years in
sustainability consulting, most recently leading Guidehouse’s ESG practice in North
America.
This newly formed powerhouse team provides an overview of ClimeCo’s three
business units – Project Development, Environmental Credits, and ESG Advisory--
leading to a robust discussion about the thesis of the acquisition. To put it briefly,
GAA’s clients need ClimeCo, and ClimeCo’s clients need GAA.
Finally, hear directly from Bill about his experience at COP26 in Glasgow and why—
despite anti-offset sentiment—voluntary environmental markets are crucial for
rebalancing ecosystems and getting to net zero with more fairness. Of course,
Kaitlyn also has some fun questions for Bill and Emily.
Congratulations to Kaitlyn, Amanda, and the entire GAA family on this new
adventure and the start of an amazing next chapter! 2022 will be their best year
yet!
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Nov 18, 2021 • 55min
Kaitlyn Allen, Carol Liffman, and Ivonne Cruz, Ph.D., Share Their ESG Insights with Students at Rice University
This is an exciting episode featuring Kaitlyn Allen, Carol Liffman, and Dr. Ivonne Cruz. Carol is a Senior Consultant with Global Affairs Associates who started her career in oil and gas as a geoscientist. She was also the featured expert on episode #6 of this podcast. Dr. Cruz holds a Doctorate and Masters degree in Sustainability. She serves as the Puentes Consortium Administrator, a Resident Scholar for the Center for the U.S. and Mexico at the Baker Institute and conducts research on climate change and social issues. Most recently, Dr. Cruz was a faculty member of the Master in Global Affairs program where she teaches sustainability and global Issues. She has been in academia as associate researcher in countries such as Spain, U.K and the U.S. She has experience as a consultant working on projects with international agencies, nonprofits and public and private entities. Dr. Cruz has published several papers and book chapters on the social dimensions of environmental change, and she has collaborated in the elaboration of sustainability reports for private companies and local governments.
The information shared was recorded by Dr. Cruz for her students, and we wanted to share it on the podcast also. As Dr. Cruz points out, today’s students are very engaged in the topic of sustainability. They understand the importance of clean energy and conservation, and many are familiar with the UN SDGs.
Their conversation covers a variety of topics from how much waste we generate today, to today’s unconventional energy sources that may be more mainstream in the future, to carbon capture and enhanced oil recovery. Remember, everyone organization or company needs to define what ESG means to them, and the innovative solutions will be, in large part, local strategies.
The discussion these three experts have is like a mix ‘ESG 101’ and a high-level review of previous episodes. So, whether you are new to the topic of ESG or a faithful follower of this podcast, this information is for you. As a resource boost for this episode, check out Project Drawdown.
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Nov 10, 2021 • 21min
Mark Williams Discusses the Role of ESG Reporting in M&A Transactions
In this episode, Amanda Hsieh talks with Mark Williams. Mark is responsible for the sales strategy across the United States, Canada, and Latin America for Datasite, a leading SaaS provider for the M&A industry. Prior to joining Datasite, Mark held several sales leadership roles in a variety of SaaS companies including Chief Revenue Officer at SmartFocus and Vice President of Sales for Kno Mark graduated with a BSc in Mechanical Engineering from Humberside University, England.
ESG data is no longer a differentiator or ‘nice to have.’ ESG disclosure is moving into the mainstream expectations for this process. Depending on the industry, more emphasis may be given to efforts associated with the ‘E,’ ‘S,’ or ‘G.’ (Carbon neutral is a current hot topic.) Listen as Amanda and Mark discuss ESG-related reporting trends for mergers and acquisitions, and how ESG impacts the overall valuation process.
To ground us in this conversation, Amanda reminds us about the concept of ESG materiality. She is such a great teacher! It should come as no surprise that she is currently a guest lecturer at Rice University and the University of St. Thomas. Super congrats, Amanda! Those students are so lucky to learn from your expertise.
Resource Boost:
Climate Change’s Impact on M&A by Datasite https://www.datasite.com/us/en/insights/visualization/infographics/climate-change-s-impact-on-m-a.html
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Oct 19, 2021 • 45min
Jennifer Guidry On Motivating Teams Through the Energy Transition
In this episode, Kaitlyn Allen talks with Jennifer Guidry, Vice President, Global
Health, Safety and Environment (HSE) and Environmental Social Governance (ESG)
for Precision Drilling, a company known to deliver high performance, high value
products and services to its customers in the oil and gas industry. With 25 years of
global experience leading change in the upstream oil and gas, heavy construction,
and environmental remediation, Jennifer is known for creating industry leading
strategies that drive culture change in organizations.
Listen as Kaitlyn and Jennifer discuss the evolution of HSE and its connection to
ESG. HSE tends to be more compliance-driven; while ESG is more strategic. They
share their insights as to how perspectives related to energy transition have shifted
in the oil and gas sector. Jennifer also provides updates related to opportunities in
oil field services (OFS) to reduce emissions and source alternate forms of energy to
power rigs, sharing concrete examples from Precision Drilling’s journey.
Much of Jennifer’s niche expertise centers in her authentic ability to bring to life the
‘S’ in ESG. She speaks to the value of ESG programs in a way that motivates
leaders and employees to focus on long-term solutions. She is a champion for
Diversity & Inclusion (D&I), which she cites as a game changer for businesses
seeking to drive innovation, with diversity of thought serving as the fuel. Moreover,
she reflects on her own leadership journey, sharing that the key to success as a
business leader--and in life--is to treat others with “humanity and grace.”
As you listen to Kaitlyn and Jennifer, they sound like long-time friends chatting over
coffee. (Listen for Jennifer’s story about the sticky note left on her car!) Their
shared passion for ESG and travel has been a point of common interest for both
through the years. There is a lot that will inform and inspire you in this episode.
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