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ESG Decoded is a podcast powered by ClimeCo to share updates related to business innovation and sustainability in a clear and actionable manner.
Join Emma Cox, Erika Schiller, and Anna Stablum for thoughtful, nuanced conversations with industry leaders and subject matter experts that explore the complexities of the risks and opportunities connected to (E)nvironmental, (S)ocial and (G)overnance.
We like to say that “ESG is everything that’s not on your balance sheet.” This leaves room for misunderstanding and oversimplification – two things that we’ll bust on this podcast.
Join Emma Cox, Erika Schiller, and Anna Stablum for thoughtful, nuanced conversations with industry leaders and subject matter experts that explore the complexities of the risks and opportunities connected to (E)nvironmental, (S)ocial and (G)overnance.
We like to say that “ESG is everything that’s not on your balance sheet.” This leaves room for misunderstanding and oversimplification – two things that we’ll bust on this podcast.
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Nov 15, 2022 • 37min
Susan Maslow & Patrick Miller Discuss Model Contract Clauses for Human Rights Protections in Supply Chains
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In this episode, Kaitlyn Allen is joined by Susan Maslow and Patrick Miller. Sue is a Co-Founder and Partner of Antheil. Maslow & MacMinn LLP. She also serves as Vice Chair of the Working Group to Draft Human Rights Protections in International Supply Contracts, American Bar Association (ABA) Business Law Section, and as Chair of the ABA Business Law Section’s Corporate Social Responsibility Law Committee. Sue concentrates her practice primarily on general corporate transactional work and finance documentation, including stock and asset acquisitions, mergers, distributorships, software services, development and licensing arrangements, and business separations. Patrick is the Founding Attorney of Impact Advocates, a law firm focusing on international commercial dispute resolution through arbitration, mediation, and litigation. He assists companies in implementing responsible supply chain frameworks – recently working with an ABA Business Law Section Working Group, which developed a comprehensive set of contractual provisions to address potential human rights violations in international supply chains.
Listen as Kaitlyn, Sue, and Patrick discuss the American Bar Association (ABA)’s Model Contract Clauses (MCCs) for the Human Rights Project, which provides practical tools to help buyers and suppliers protect the human rights of workers in supply chains. We hope everyone who listens to the episode is inspired to do their part (as a business owner or consumer) to eradicate this form of modern-day slavery.
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Episode Resource Links
American Bar Association (ABA) Contractual Clauses Project - ensuring human rights due diligence in business contracting:https://www.americanbar.org/groups/human_rights/business-human-rights-initiative/contractual-clauses-project/
Susan Maslow LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/suemaslow/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/antheil-maslow-&-macminn-llp/
Twitter: @AMMLawLLP: https://twitter.com/AMMLawLLP Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ammlaw
Patrick Miller LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-miller-ab933520/
Impact Advocates APC LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/impact-advocates-law/
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Nov 8, 2022 • 20min
Kristin Tremain Davis Explains Employing Nature-Based Solutions to Strengthen Community Climate Resilience
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In this episode, Amanda Hsieh talks with Kristin Tremain Davis, who leads AECOM’s Nature-based Solutions Americas Practice. As an ESG leader, she works to integrate nature into climate change resiliency, sustainability, hazard mitigation, natural capital accounting, and ecosystem projects and programs. Kristin is a Climate Adaptation Ecologist and Project Manager with over 15 years of experience in these projects. Her primary work focuses on physical resiliency infrastructure projects and integrating Nature-based Solutions into project design. Kristin also serves as Technical Director of the AECOM Forests Program, working to develop natural climate solutions projects that offset emissions while restoring ecosystems.
Listen as Amanda and Kristin discuss how Nature-based Solutions help communities become more resilient to climate change. In short, Nature-based Solutions are actions that protect, sustainably manage, and restore ecosystems (natural or modified). Kristin covers a wealth of information, including the four pillars of Nature-based Solutions: climate vulnerability, physical resilience, natural capital accounting, and natural climate solutions.
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Episode Resource Links
AECOM-2022-ESG-Report: https://aecom.com/wp-content/uploads/documents/reports/AECOM-2022-ESG-Report.pdf
AECOM_Nature-Based Solutions Brochure: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1O2I19MhjbFWK2cpuI4a_73fXCX5NbQ8g/view?usp=sharing
Sustainable Legacies: https://publications.aecom.com/sustainable-legacies/services/Nature-based-solutions
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Nov 1, 2022 • 42min
Greg Watson Discusses the "No Single Right Way" Approach to ESG
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Welcome back to our ESG Paradigm Shift Series, where we examine different angles of the ESG phenomenon and its broader implications for finance and prosperity.
In this episode, Kaitlyn Allen talks with Greg Watson, Founder of Partnership Capital. Greg worked in investment management and corporate finance for various leading City of London firms before joining Monitor Company, where he was a partner and helped establish a strategic transaction advisory affiliate. Greg then started a consulting firm and, in parallel, helped manage the start-up of an interdisciplinary social science academic funding foundation. Over the last few years, he has been conducting an innovation investment experiment to test the importance of partnering and active stewardship for deep-tech innovation. He recently published an article on the social convention foundations of finance, “No Single Right Way,” which has sparked interest and debate.
Listen as Kaitlyn and Greg discuss refreshing new ways to think about ESG. A new mindset is emerging, challenging how we currently approach ESG topics. Greg explains that this evolution is right on time, as it has been 20+ years since the initial correlation between investment returns and sustainability. We are reminded that ESG means different things to the various stakeholders, which continues to fuel debates in the sustainability community, especially at the intersection of ESG-Finance-Investing.
We hope this episode will inspire some healthy conversations with your ESG networks. Enjoy!
Episode Resource Links
The No Single Right Way article
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/greg-watson-pcl_no-single-right-way-constructive-real-world-activity-6965615118298578944-yThW?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop
“3 Open Goals”, which follows on from it and describes three ways in which the parties taking different positions in the ESG debate might be reconciled
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/greg-watson-pcl_no-single-right-way-constructive-real-world-activity-6975091860662861824-fIY8?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop
The 2006 paper “Heroics, Sustainability and Commonsense – Valuation practices for the future” suggested the finance industry would adopt new ways to harness real-world information relevant to long term

Oct 25, 2022 • 33min
Bill Page Shares New Perspectives on ESG
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Thanks again to Greenbuild, our October Sponsor. Greenbuild hosts the largest annual event for green building professionals worldwide where attendees learn and source solutions to improve resilience, sustainability, and quality of life in our buildings, cities, and communities. Celebrating its 20th anniversary in 2022, Greenbuild will take place in San Francisco, CA. Register with promo code DECODED to activate $50 savings on a Learning Package or redeem free expo hall access w/ the Sourcing Package - also works on virtual packages! Visit them at www.GreenbuildExpo.com.
In this episode, Kaitlyn Allen talks with Bill Page, Senior Portfolio Manager at Essex Investment Management based in Boston, MA. Bill has focused on ESG investing for 30 years. After posts at Fidelity, Wellington, and State Street Global Advisors, where he was global head of ESG, h
e moved his thematic investment strategy to Essex in 2009, relaunching the Global Environmental Opportunities Strategy (GEOS). GEOS is the first thematic listed-equity impact strategy in the U.S.
Bill's undergrad is from Boston University in Economics, and he received his MBA from Babson College, concentrating in Finance. He is actively involved in the ESG circuit in higher education, speaking on cleantech investing, thematic investing, and moving the needle on climate solutions. Bill enjoys cycling, alpine skiing, and paddle boarding. He, his wife, and their Corgi frequently hit the trails of Western Maine and Concord, MA.
Listen as Kaitlyn and Bill discuss his career journey, which is a solid testament to the positive impact of internships! Bill also shares his views on ESG, which may shift your perspective. In true ESG Decoded fashion, we'll define related acronyms: GEOS, SRI, and PRI, and learn the difference between thematic and ESG investing.
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Episode Resource Links
Global Environmental Opportunities (GEOS) Fact Sheets- Essex Investment

Oct 18, 2022 • 25min
Colley Hodges Discusses How the Houston Zoo’s Mission-Driven Culture Propels Their Success
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Thanks again to Greenbuild, our October Sponsor. Greenbuild hosts the largest annual event for green building professionals worldwide where attendees learn and source solutions to improve resilience, sustainability, and quality of life in our buildings, cities, and communities. Celebrating its 20th anniversary in 2022, Greenbuild will take place in San Francisco, CA. Register with promo code DECODED to activate $50 savings on a Learning Package or redeem free expo hall access w/ the Sourcing Package - also works on virtual packages! Visit them at www.GreenbuildExpo.com.
In this episode, Amanda Hsieh talks with Colley Hodges, Sustainability Manager at the Houston Zoo. Colley leads one of the greenest zoo-based conservation organizations in the country. He is an architect and accredited professional under the Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) rating system, WELL Building Standard, and Sustainable SITES initiative. Some of his efforts include carbon tracking and reduction, sustainable material selection, resource conservation, waste diversion, indoor air quality improvements, and sustainability education. In 2021, Colley was recognized as a 40 Under 40 honoree by the Houston Business Journal and Building Design + Construction magazine.
Listen as Amanda and Colley discuss the Houston Zoo's conservation efforts and their connection to its steadfast mission to save wildlife. Its architectural design ties to animal care and welfare, while its sourcing efforts aim toward shrinking its footprint. Houston Zoo's laser focus on responsible sourcing is fueled by a project comprised of sustainably harvested wood, leading to the elimination of single-use plastics in its restaurants and retail stores.
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Episode Resource Links
Houston Zoo Website: https://www.houstonzoo.org/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/houstonzoo
Twitter: https://twitter.com/houstonzoo

Oct 11, 2022 • 19min
Rick Wenger Explains Decarbonization With a Focus on Process Heat
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In this episode, Amanda Hsieh is joined by Rick Wenger, Director of Sales at Skyven Technologies. Rick has 15+ years of experience reducing energy use in the industrial sector. He has led the R&D department at Honeywell, one of the nation’s largest burner and heat exchanger companies, and has put in significant incentive dollars to work at Cascade Energy. Rick brings a wealth of process-specific knowledge to help industrials decarbonize profitably.
Listen as Amanda and Rick discuss process heat, thermal energy applied during the industrial process, consumption, and packaging. They also share thoughts about recapturing this energy for further production use. Rick talks about energy as a service, a business model that allows customers to pay for services without making an upfront capital investment.
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Episode Resource Links
Skyven Technologies Website
Skyven Technologies LinkedIn
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Oct 4, 2022 • 41min
Rick Alexander Explains the Relationship Between ESG & Modern Portfolio Theory
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Welcome to our ESG Paradigm Shift Series, where we examine different angles of the ESG phenomenon and its broader implications for finance and prosperity.
In this episode, Kaitlyn Allen talks with Rick Alexander, the founder of The Shareholder Commons (TSC). TSC is an organization dedicated to creating responsible ownership throughout the investing chain. Before founding TSC, Rick served as Head of Legal Policy at B Lab and spent 31 years at Morris, Nichols, Arsht & Tunnell LLP, practicing corporate law and four years as a managing partner. Rick also served as a member of the Delaware Corporation Law Council. In his work there, he was a leader in drafting and shepherding important corporate legislation, including provisions protecting shareholders from mandatory arbitration, enabling proxy access, implementing majority voting, and authorizing public benefit corporations – Delaware’s version of the benefit corporation.
Listen as Rick takes us on a journey through the history of Modern Portfolio Theory. Learn how individual corporations are being incentivized to externalize costs and why this cost externalization is born by diversified portfolio investors. How is ESG part of the solution?
Enjoy tuning in to this episode!
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Episode Resource Links
From Meta to Twitter, What Everyone Gets Wrong About ESG — And Why It Matters | Institutional Investor
The Shareholder Commons
Moving Beyond Modern Portfolio Theory by Jon Lukomnik
Benefit Corporation Law and Governance: Pursuing Profit with Purpose Rick Alexander
SustainEx Schroeder’s Report on Costs/Value
The Rise of Fiduciary Capitalism: How Institutional Investors Can Make Corporate America More Democratic by James P. Hawley
Two New Case Studies on Closing the Climate Change and AMR Engagement Gap
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Sep 27, 2022 • 28min
Lefteris Arapakis Discusses How the Fishing Industry Contributes to Circular Economy
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Thank you to EarthUP, our sponsor for the month of September. EarthUP enables employers to crowdsource corporate emissions reductions from their employees. This bottom-up approach reduces costs for sustainability teams while de-risking a company's emissions reduction strategy. EarthUP’s mission is to make sustainability part of everyone's job so companies can meet their emission goals. Visit them at earthup.eco.
In this episode, Kaitlyn Allen talks with Lefteris Arapakis, Co-Founder and Director of Enaleia, an organization with a vision to make the marine ecosystem sustainable. Lefteris won the United Nations European Young Champion of the Earth 2020 award and was named the Ambassador for the Mediterranean Coast by UNEP-MAP for 2021-2022. He is an Athens University of Economics and Business graduate, TEDx speaker, and an AshokaChangemaker - listed in 2020's Greek Forbes 30under30 List.
Lefteris comes from a long line of Greek professional fishermen. During the Greek economic crisis, he co-founded Enaleia, an organization with a vision to make the marine ecosystem sustainable. Enaleia created the first school for professional fishing in Greece and two wide-scale plastic clean-ups, the Mediterranean Cleanup & Bahari Safi. Working with 1.600 fishers, they collected waste and integrated it into the circular economy. The Mediterranean Cleanup is one of Europe's Top 5 marine plastic clean-ups.
Listen as Kaitlyn and Lefteris discuss this innovative business model positively impacting fishers and sowing into the circular economy. While fishing, many nets capture large amounts of plastic waste that is simply returned to the ocean. Enaleia shares ways to recycle plastic with little to no expended energy or CO2 emissions to counter the effects of plastic pollution. This plastic then becomes a myriad of products that are useful to consumers. Before the solutions presented by Enaleia, it was predicted that by 2050 there would be more plastic in the oceans than fish. Thanks to this thought leadership, that trajectory may be course correcting.
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Episode Resource Links
UNEP’s Fishing for Plastic
Washington Post Article:
Press Release w/ ClimeCo
Verra
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Sep 20, 2022 • 33min
Luma Saqqaf Discusses Sustainability from a Middle Eastern Perspective
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Thank you to EarthUP, our sponsor for the month of September. EarthUP enables employers to crowdsource corporate emissions reductions from their employees. This bottom-up approach reduces costs for sustainability teams while de-risking a company's emissions reduction strategy. EarthUP's mission is to make sustainability part of everyone's job so companies can meet their emission goals. Visit them at earthup.eco.
In this episode, Kaitlyn Allen talks with Luma Saqqaf, a Sustainable Finance Practitioner working with companies and financial institutions to achieve their desired ESG goals. Luma regularly advises the Dubai Financial Market on sustainable finance issues and regulations. Her experience is built from three decades in finance, Islamic finance, sustainability, and entrepreneurship.
Listen as Kaitlyn and Luma discuss various ESG topics through a Middle Eastern lens. Every region of the world has unique perspectives on how to prioritize and address sustainability challenges. The Middle East is no different. Each country in the region operates with various commitments from its respective government. The spectrum of maturation in this space is broad. Some companies in this region are just beginning their focus on sustainability, while others are well into their journey with clear strategies to implement sustainable solutions.
In typical ESG Decoded fashion, Kaitlyn does a great job deciphering the 'acronym alphabet soup' that often accompanies ESG-related discussions. Speaking of fashion, Luma is also the Funder and Creative Director for a sustainable womenswear brand, BYLUMA, founded in 2017. The team at BYLUMA is comprised of 100% women, many of whom are on flexible work schedules.
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Resource Links:
Luma's LinkedIn
BYLUMA Site
Ajyal Site
LinkedIn
Instagram
Facebook

Sep 13, 2022 • 25min
Jayce Hafner Shares How FarmRaise is Diversifying American Farming & Promoting Climate-Smart Agriculture
ESG Decoded is a podcast powered by ClimeCo to share updates related to business innovation and sustainability in a clear and actionable manner.
Thanks again to EarthUP, our September Sponsor. EarthUP enables employers to crowdsource corporate emissions reductions from their employees. They use a bottom-up approach to reduce costs for sustainability teams while de-risking a company's emissions reduction strategy. EarthUP’s mission is to make sustainability part of everyone's job so companies can meet their emission goals. Visit them at earthup.eco.
In this episode, Amanda Hsieh joins forces with Jayce Hafner, Co-Founder & CEO of FarmRaise. Jayce completed a Fulbright Fellowship in Trinidad and Tobago before serving as an Environmental Policy Advisor for the Episcopal Church where she mobilized large-scale land conservation and climate change campaigns in the U.S. Congress and United Nations. After completing an MBA and Masters of Environmental Science at Stanford, she co-founded FarmRaise to restore environmental resilience and profitability to the American agriculture landscape by connecting farmers and ranchers to farm funding.
The agriculture industry presents unique opportunities to address climate change and water quality issues. However, Farmers need more efficient access to capital to implement sustainable solutions that promote regenerative agriculture. Listen as Amanda and Jayce introduce us to FarmRaise and discuss how the company is working to solve these problems within the industry while creating social equity. Jayce also touches on industry best practices and natural resource priority concerns.
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