
Jimmy's Jobs of the Future
Former Downing Street adviser, Jimmy McLoughlin interviews top entrepreneurs, politicians, and just about anyone at the top of their game on where they think the future of our economy is going through the prism of jobs.
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Jun 22, 2022 • 32min
Kitt Offices: What is the future of the office and How to design your work space
The biggest question facing a lot of businesses right now is- what is the future of my office?We are asked by lots of people what the future of the office will look like- it’s a problem largely unresolved with businesses of all scales struggling to motivate people to come into the office in the first place or make sure they have a nice time when they do.Overall, it’s hard to think of a sector more disrupted than office real estate in the past 2 years.Today’s guest could well be the answer to all that. Lucy Minton is the co-founder of Kitt Offices, a company that designs custom workspaces that match unique business needs.We talk to Lucy about how businesses are wanting to use the office space, what that looks like in reality and how to design a workspace for this new paradigm of work. This episode is a subject we have wanted to cover for a long time and we finally found the perfect guest to talk to us about it- after all, who’s better to talk about a disrupted sector than the startup doing the disrupting?In this episode we discuss:
Where did the name Kitt come from?
The founding of the business.
What it was like building an office business when COVID hit.
What’s the purpose of the office going to be?
And what does the future of the office actually look like?
How often do businesses move offices?
Why jobs of the future will be focused around the customer- and why real estate is one of the last to do so.
The long-term goals of Kitt and the tipping point of the industry.
How Lucy has found raising money as a female founder and during the pandemic.
The piece of content Lucy has found inspiring on her journey.
The importance of transparency in motivating a team.
If Lucy could go back in time and tell herself one thing, what would it be?
How did a Maths degree help in the business world?
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Jun 21, 2022 • 7min
🎉🎉 LIVE SHOW ANNOUNCEMENT, British Podcast Award Nomination 🎉🎉
It feels amazing to say we are planning our first ever live show - though like all good live acts we're starting off in small South-West London locations before selling out the O2 or the Nou Camp...We'll be revealing all the details on our notebook in the coming weeks so make sure you sign up there at https://www.jobsofthefuture.co/notebookWe've also been nominated for the British Podcast Awards in the Bullseye category - podcasts serving niche and underrepresented audiences. This feels like an amazing achievement and thank you to all our listeners for getting us there along the way. These events have really given me pause to think and reflect- recording in my bedroom whilst a newborn sleeps at my feet feels like a very long time ago...Subscribe so you don't miss any new episodes, releasing every Wednesday.You can sign up to Jimmy's Substack here for weekly content on the future of work, technology, and politicsFor more information on partnering with us please visit our partnerships page here.Also make sure you subscribe to The Shift, you can find it here on Spotify or on Apple Podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 15, 2022 • 42min
Jeff Kofman: War correspondent to entrepreneur and how technology is changing journalism
You might think running a startup is tough. But it pales in significance when compared to today’s guest who used to be a war correspondent. But what does it take to turn someone from a job like that into an entrepreneur?Jeffrey Kofman is an Emmy award-winning journalist and now the CEO and founder of Trint, a speech-to-text platform that aims to solve the colossal problem of transcribing for audio, video and text productions. Believe us when we say it’s a hassle. It's now grown into something much more, as you'll hear about in the episode. Given what is going on in Ukraine at present, this is a fascinating job to learn about- how do you get into it? What does it take? How has the job of war journalism changed with technology over the years?Jimmy even learns a thing or two about interview technique!In this episode we discuss:
Jumping from being an Emmy award war correspondent to being a startup founder.
Where did the name Trint come from?
How to raise capital and being a non-stereotypical founder.
Why Trint is more than just transcription.
What does the future of the job of a Journalist look like?
How can writers get in front of the right people?
Why podcasts are an antidote to superficial media.
His thoughts on Ukraine and how technology is transforming journalism.
Does he miss being a reporter?
What’s the one thing he wishes he could tell himself when he first founded Trint?
Jeff’s interview tips for Jimmy.
The best content Jeffrey has consumed that he found impactful.
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Jun 8, 2022 • 38min
Lyndsey Simpson: Challenging the stereotypes of tech and How to create purpose later in life
You may have a stereotypical image of a tech founder. Chances are it’s someone from East London, with a Hipster beard who lives in something like a houseboat…But as we’ve seen before, founders come in all shapes and sizes. We’ve previously had Anne Boden on, who founded the billion-dollar company Starling in her 50s.And that is what today’s guest is all about. Lyndsey Simpson is the founder of 55 Redefined and it’s all about finding purpose later in life.Lyndsey was suggested to us after we made a call out for more diverse guests after International Women’s Day earlier this year and I couldn’t think of a better guest suggestion to reflect this. Thank you to our partners The Octopus Group for making this show possible. The Octopus Group is a collection of 8 entrepreneurially minded businesses that look to back the people, ideas and industries that will change the world.Get in touch with us at hello@jobsofthefuture.coIn this episode we talk about:
Where did the name come from.
How her entrepreneurial experience has lead to constant consumer feedback loops .
The importance of the personal touch.
Her journey into the world of work- including work in her dad’s butchers and post office.
Why first hires reflected her weaknesses.
How to persuade someone to take the jump with you- and why transparency is key.
What jobs she is hiring for in this round of growth.
Why Instagram is key to reaching older generations.
The misconceptions about over 50s .
‘Returnships’ from retirement.
The culture of a company with older demographics in mind.
Where to find careers at 55 Redefined.
Why they went completely remote working.
How to maximise in-person time.
The sectors Lyndsey is going to disrupt next.
Lyndsey’s most inspiring content- a TV show, a book and a newsletter.
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May 30, 2022 • 1h 3min
Nadhim Zahawi: What is the job of Education Secretary and how politics can learn from business
Today’s guest has one of the most interesting stories in the UK. And it’s one that I think you might not know about.It’s the story of an 11-year-old boy who fled Saddam Hussein’s Iraq and arrived in the UK not being able to read a word of English.He went on to found a Billion dollar company, became an MP, was responsible for the vaccine rollout and has now recently been appointed by Boris Johnson as the Secretary of State for Education.Today’s guest is none other than Nadhim Zahawi, MP for Stratford-upon-Avon and Secretary of State for Education. You can also watch this episode on Youtube.Thank you to our partners The Octopus Group for making this show possible. The Octopus Group is a collection of 8 entrepreneurially minded businesses that look to back the people, ideas and industries that will change the world.Get in touch with us at hello@jobsofthefuture.coIn this episode we talk to Nadhim about:
What is the job of Education Secretary?
How to predict what skills will be needed in the future.
The challenge of communicating Education.
Are we pushing people into highly specific degrees too early?
If Nadhim was 22 in 2022 what sectors would he look to work in?
What exactly is an apprenticeship degree?
Nadhim's entrepreneurial journey, including founding the billion-dollar company YouGov.
Nadhim’s non-linear political career and running marathons, not sprints.
Why his obituary is already written.
Why running Government departments is like a start-up.
Growing a business from 5 to 50 people to IPO.
Does he still want to be Prime Minister?
What content has inspired Nadhim on his journey?
Subscribe so you don't miss any new episodes, releasing every Wednesday.You can sign up to Jimmy's Substack here for weekly content on the future of work, technology, and politicsFor more information on partnering with us please visit our partnerships page here.Also make sure you subscribe to The Shift, you can find it here on Spotify or on Apple Podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 23, 2022 • 51min
Andrew Bailey: How to govern the Bank of England and the future of cryptocurrency
For our third series, we launched with Ben Francis of Gymshark. For our 4th series, we launched with Rishi Sunak. In this special launch episode of our 5th series, we are speaking to none other than Andrew Bailey, Governor of the Bank of England. But what does the Bank actually do? How do the 4,500 people employed there combine to control an entire economy? And how does a 340-year-old institution adapt to new technologies like cryptocurrency? This is the first episode in our 5th series and we couldn’t be starting it off with a bigger guest. In his first podcast since 2020, this episode touches on everything from Russian sanctions to cryptocurrency and where the economy is growing fastest. In this episode we discuss:
What is the Bank of England actually in charge of?
What roles is the Bank recruiting for and how has that changed over the years?
How to make the Bank appeal to a new generation.
The work on diversity and inclusion by the bank- and why they are working to establish a larger presence outside of London to achieve this.
What does levelling up mean for the Bank of England?
Has COVID really accelerated the decline in use of cash?
How to create a culture in an organisation that has existed for 300 years
Will there be a female governor soon?
Jobs of the future- which jobs are going to be most in demand?
The future of work and the 4-day week- how the Bank is moving to flexible working itself.
The economic impact of flexible working.
Cryptocurrency and its impact on the UK economy.
What innovations excite him most?
Will we ever see a cashless society?
This episode is made possible by the support of our partners, The Octopus Group and FinTech Alliance.The Octopus Group is a collection of 8 entrepreneurially minded businesses that look to back the people, ideas and industries that will change the world.FinTech Alliance is the complete FinTech community. Where ambitious people, disruptive start-ups, investors and industry leaders learn, share, and work together to succeed in the world’s fastest emerging global ecosystem.Get in touch with us at hello@jobsofthefuture.coSubscribe so you don't miss any new episodes, releasing every Wednesday.You can sign up to Jimmy's Substack here for weekly content on the future of work, technology, and politicsFor more information on partnering with us please visit our partnerships page here.Also make sure you subscribe to The Shift, you can find it here on Spotify or on Apple Podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 18, 2022 • 4min
Trailer - Season 5 - Andrew Bailey, Governor of the Bank of England, Nadhim Zahawi, the Education Secretary and much much more...
The new series of Jimmy's Jobs of the Future launches this weekend.18 months ago this was recorded in my bedroom during naptimes. So it seems almost unreal to invite Andrew Bailey, Governor of the Bank of England, onto the podcast to launch our 5th season. Having just spoken in front of MPs to address the cost of living crisis, this long-form interview is a real rarity and the Governor's first podcast since 2020. We get to ask him exactly how the Bank works, what his role actually is and how a 300-year-old institution is adapting to the modern world.We talk about the unique challenges Andrew faces in taking an economy out of the world system and out of a pandemic, as well as the counter-cultural challenge of trying to instigate economic instability in Russia. Upcoming this series we have amazing guests like Nadhim Zahawi, the Education Secretary, talking about his aims for the department as well as his entrepreneurial journey in setting up the billion dollar company, YouGov.This show is all made possible by our partners including the Octopus Group and Fintech Alliance.If you're interested in partnering with us do check out our partnerships page on our website: https://www.jobsofthefuture.co/partnerships.Subscribe so you don't miss any new episodes, releasing every Wednesday.You can sign up to Jimmy's Substack here for weekly content on the future of work, technology, and politicsFor more information on partnering with us please visit our partnerships page here.Also make sure you subscribe to The Shift, you can find it here on Spotify or on Apple Podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mar 23, 2022 • 55min
Herman Narula - Building the plumbing of the metaverse
When I started this podcast I wrote down a list of dream guests to come on the show. Today's guest is one of them. When asked about starting careers, another dream guest on this show, Pete Flint, gave the advice to "pick a sector, not a company'. Herman Narula is at the forefront of the sector of the future- The Metaverse. This might be a term fairly new to you but Herman has been working on this space for 9 years with his company Improbable, who are building the 'plumbing of the metaverse'. But what is it exactly? How can people interact with it? Will it really be as transformative as people imagine?Herman is writing a book about the Metaverse called "Virtual Society" which is coming later this year. You can pre-order it here. This is the last episode in our 4th series - thank you all so much for listening. This has been a transformative series that has seen us reclaim our #1 spot in Apple Careers Podcasts and double our listenership. A huge thank you to this series' headline sponsors, The Octopus Group. The Octopus Group is a collection of 8 entrepreneurially minded businesses that look to back the people, ideas and industries that will change the world.We will see you all very soon...In this episode with Herman we talk about:
Where did the name improbable come from
what gave Herman this initial idea over 9 years ago
What is the definition of the metaverse- and it’s why important we have one that works.
How the creation of environments is natural human behaviour.
How the metaverse can be a catalyst to extraordinary experiences.
The changes seen in the Metaverse since he started- and simply how hard it is to build the metaverse.
Building the plumbing of the metaverse- the metaverse isn’t just about entertainment.
Where we can see real-life examples of the metaverse helping everyday people.
The big opportunities for the UK economy with the metaverse- and how the government can help.
How the government could get ahead of the metaverse and recommendations for how the UK government can regulate it.
How can we drive more UK companies into this space
Herman’s first job
How does the metaverse benefit older generations
Augmenting not replacing the real world
How this world is closer than we think
How do people engage with the metaverse
How we learn from the mistakes of web 1 and web 2
The jobs of the future in the metaverse
What roles Improbable are hiring for
Subscribe so you don't miss any new episodes, releasing every Wednesday.You can sign up to Jimmy's Substack here for weekly content on the future of work, technology, and politicsFor more information on partnering with us please visit our partnerships page here.Also make sure you subscribe to The Shift, you can find it here on Spotify or on Apple Podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mar 16, 2022 • 48min
Sophie Adelman- Co founder, The Garden and Multiverse
Today’s guest is Sophie Adelman, who is a member of that exclusive club: a serial entrepreneur.Her first business, Multiverse, created alternative routes into the world of work via apprenticeships and raised over $130 million, transforming the world of education-technology during the process.Her new venture, The Garden, brings the experts & academics out of the institutions, enabling you to learn from true experts who have dedicated their lives to studying a subject. Through interactive live talks, their aim is to create a community of inquisitive minds in a world of misinformation and alternative facts. In this episode we discuss with Sophie:
Where the name of The Garden comes from and what it does
How to build a team from scratch and how to hire great people
Fundraising with the benefit of doing it a second time
Why she’s doing it all again in creating another startup
What makes a good co-founder and the crucial aspect of shared values.
Highlights of The Garden so far
What are her key takeaways for first-time founders
Creating peer networks instead of mentors
Her time at multiverse and what it does
Her reflections on early hires and learnings for other entrepreneurs
Taking the MBA route at Stanford and what we can learn from Valley culture
Taking creative arts more seriously
The importance of asking ‘Why’
The talks you can access on The Garden
If she was 22 in 2022, where Sophie would start her career
Pass the mic- who would be an entrepreneur Sophie wants to shine a light on?
Subscribe so you don't miss any new episodes, releasing every Wednesday.You can sign up to Jimmy's Substack here for weekly content on the future of work, technology, and politicsFor more information on partnering with us please visit our partnerships page here.Also make sure you subscribe to The Shift, you can find it here on Spotify or on Apple Podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mar 11, 2022 • 13min
IWD Special - Izzy Obeng - Inclusive Innovation: Educating women and young people in enterprise
This is one in a short series of episodes, taking a look back at some of the amazing female entrepreneurs we’ve had on the podcast in celebration of International Women’s Day.Izzy Obeng wanted to see the community around her reach its full potential, as the CEO of Foundervine she is able to get more women and young people into enterprise through its educational programs. She hopes for more inclusive innovation with more awareness for marginalised groups being pushed to the forefront of the global consciousness.Subscribe so you don't miss any new episodes, releasing every Wednesday.You can sign up to Jimmy's Substack here for weekly content on the future of work, technology, and politicsFor more information on partnering with us please visit our partnerships page here.Also make sure you subscribe to The Shift, you can find it here on Spotify or on Apple Podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices