
Jimmy's Jobs of the Future
Former Downing Street adviser, Jimmy McLoughlin interviews top entrepreneurs, politicians, and just about anyone at the top of their game on where they think the future of our economy is going through the prism of jobs.
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Jul 8, 2025 • 1h 15min
Peter Kyle | The Future of AI
Peter Kyle, the UK’s Minister for Science, Innovation and Technology, shares his vision for the future of AI and its impact on the economy and workforce. He discusses Labour's ambitious AI plans and the urgent need for the UK to lead in tech. Kyle highlights the importance of training initiatives to prepare the workforce for AI developments and the challenges of integrating technology in education. He also emphasizes transparency in AI regulations and the role of government in navigating these changes while engaging with local communities.

Jul 1, 2025 • 52min
Alex Depledge | The Future of the Treasury
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Transition from Entrepreneurship to Government: Alex Depledge's New Role in the Treasury
In this episode of 'Jimmy's Jobs of the Future', host Jimmy McLoughlin welcomes Alex Depledge, a prominent UK entrepreneur, for her third appearance. Alex announces her transition to the UK Treasury to work with Rachel Weeves, marking the first time the Treasury has brought in an entrepreneur. Alex discusses her plans to ensure the UK remains competitive by supporting entrepreneurs and scaling businesses. The conversation dives into the challenges of scaling talent in the UK amidst recent global crises and discusses the roles of government and entrepreneurship in societal development. Other topics include the responsibilities of modern employers, the impacts of ChatGPT on entry-level jobs, and reflections on today's business environment. Alex also shares her thoughts on the importance of systemic-level thinking and her goals for her six-month tenure at the Treasury.
00:00 Intro
01:37 Reflections on Entrepreneurship and Government
02:55 The Role of Entrepreneurs in Government
07:26 Navigating Government Bureaucracy
11:10 The Importance of Small Businesses
15:41 Balancing Public Service and Personal Life
27:11 The Impact of Technology on Human Connection
28:39 The Expanding Role of Employers
30:38 Challenges of Running a Business Today
32:19 The Future of Entry-Level Jobs
35:47 The Role of Education and Skills in the Modern Workforce
37:44 Personal Reflections and Career Goals
43:53 Government and Public Policy
48:09 ChatGPT Predicts the Future
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Jun 24, 2025 • 51min
Simon Squibb | The Future of Education
Simon Squibb: Why Working for Yourself Isn’t Risky Anymore
In this episode of Jimmy’s Jobs of the Future, Simon Squibb – millionaire entrepreneur and education reformer – explains why the school system is outdated and failing future founders.
He shares how being kicked out of school at 15 shaped his mission to fix it. From homeschooling his son to building a global audience, Simon reveals the highs and lows of content creation, how to build personal brand influence, and why entrepreneurship isn’t as risky as you think.
You’ll also hear his thoughts on AI, politics, and the radical shift we need in how we teach young people about money, work, and life.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:45 Everything Wrong With School
04:01 The Truth About Entrepreneurship
12:36 Why Every Founder Needs a Personal Brand
14:00 AI Is Coming – Are You Ready?
15:00 Simon’s Wild Journey to Success
21:52 The Hidden Cost of Fame
26:22 Losing a Parent and Gaining Perspective
27:32 How to Actually Fix Education
29:15 Social Media Changed Everything
33:58 Content Is a Full-Time Job
35:08 Street Interviews & Real Reactions
44:35 Homeschooling Done Right
49:33 Final Thoughts on Risk, Dreams & Purpose
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Jun 17, 2025 • 47min
Sadiq Khan | The Future of London
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In Conversation with Sadiq Khan: London's Diversity, Politics, and Future
Join us for an engaging conversation with Sadiq Khan, Mayor of London, as he discusses his journey, the challenges of urban administration, and the importance of diversity in London's growth. Sadiq reflects on his early life, including his first jobs, and shares his thoughts on the evolving landscape of immigration, housing, and business in London. He also offers personal insights on balancing his demanding career with family life, and the influence of various Prime Ministers on his tenure. Don't miss this comprehensive look at one of the key figures shaping London's future!
00:00 Introduction to Diversity and Politics
00:25 Reflections on Immigration and Language
01:56 Personal Anecdotes and Early Jobs
02:45 Quickfire Questions and Personal Insights
03:25 Favorite Places and Views in London
06:56 Admired Mayors and Global Connections
09:13 Challenges and Changes in Mayoral Powers
18:24 Housing Crisis and Rent Control
20:36 Business Admiration and Future Plans
21:31 Introduction to Successful Businesses in London
21:52 Prominent Companies Expanding in London
22:23 Supporting Small and Medium Enterprises
24:31 Challenges in Scaling Up to Billion-Dollar Companies
26:11 London's Unique Business Environment
29:21 Revitalizing High Streets and Local Businesses
32:41 The Impact of Immigration on London
35:32 Racism and Social Progress in London
39:11 Parenting Challenges in the Modern World
40:52 Reflections on Public Service and Future Plans
44:19 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Jun 10, 2025 • 1h 16min
Parmy Olson | The $800 Million Deal That Changed AI Forever
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The AI race isn’t just about technology — it’s about power, ethics, and vision.
In this episode of Jimmy's Jobs of the Future, Jimmy sits down with Parmy Olson, a leading tech journalist and author of the Financial Times Business Book of the Year, to unpack the true rivalry between Sam Altman (OpenAI) and Demis Hassabis (DeepMind).
From billion-dollar acquisition offers to clashing philosophies about artificial intelligence, Parmy gives us an insider’s look at:
The founding myths of DeepMind
Why Demis rejected Facebook’s $800M offer
The real difference between Altman’s “move fast” approach and Hassabis’ careful caution
The future of AI jobs and what it means for the next generation
Why journalists (and humans!) are still essential in an AI-powered world
This is the episode if you want to understand who is shaping the future — and what they aren’t telling you.
⏱️ TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Facebook’s $800M Bid for DeepMind — And Why It Was Rejected
00:28 Gen Z vs Gen X: How AI Is Used at Work
01:14 Parmy Wins FT Business Book of the Year
02:31 What It Takes to Write the Definitive Book on AI
05:12 Demis Hassabis: AI Prodigy or Cautious Genius?
08:11 Google Buys DeepMind: Ethics, Control & Data
13:13 Altman vs Hassabis: The Showdown That’s Shaping AI
34:45 AI and the Future of Work: Hope or Hype?
39:03 What University Grads Need to Know About AI
40:33 AI in Finance and Decision-Making
42:50 The Danger of Relying Too Much on AI Tools
45:59 Jobs AI Might Kill — And Ones It Could Create
49:24 Why Experts Will Still Matter in the AI Age
55:42 Parmy’s Advice for Aspiring Journalists
01:03:30 Why the Business Model Behind AI Matters
01:12:04 Personal Reflections and What Comes Next
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Jun 3, 2025 • 1h 17min
John Caudwell | The Billionaire Who Wants to Rebuild Britain
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From Billion-Dollar Business to Philanthropy: John Caudwell's Journey | Jimmy's Jobs of the Future
In this episode of Jimmy's Jobs of the Future, Jimmy welcomes John Caudwell, the entrepreneur behind Phones 4U. John opens up about his remarkable journey from starting in the mobile phone industry to eventually selling his business for billions. He shares his insights on hiring practices, the importance of ambition and resilience, and the evolution of his entrepreneurial strategies. The discussion also covers John's philanthropic efforts through Caudwell Children and Caudwell Youth, as well as his thoughts on current economic policies, the future of AI, and personal health practices. John candidly discusses his views on government and commercialism, and his personal life, including the challenges and joys of raising young children again. This episode is packed with valuable lessons for entrepreneurs, insights on philanthropy, and John's vision for the future.
00:00 Intro
01:33 How John Hires (and Why He Looks for “Brilliance”)
05:09 Building Phones4U Into a Billion-Pound Brand
11:19 Hard-Earned Lessons from Early Struggles
18:26 Why the UK Economy Needs Urgent Reform
36:51 Family Life, Personal Challenges & Adventures
38:38 Finding Purpose After Retirement
40:25 Parenting, Legacy & Raising Kids Again
44:55 The Real Threat of AI (and What Comes Next)
56:29 How John Gives Back Through Philanthropy
01:12:36 His Daily Health Habits & Wellness Advice
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May 27, 2025 • 1h 8min
Chris Hulatt | Why the UK Must Defend the London Stock Exchange
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From Living Room Startup to Industry Leader: How Octopus Group Innovates Across Sectors
Join Jimmy as he welcomes Chris Ulla, co-founder of Octopus Group, to discuss the impressive growth and innovation behind Octopus Energy and its expansion into new areas like financial coaching. Chris shares insights on management, entrepreneurship, and the challenges of scaling businesses in the UK. Dive into the origins of Octopus Group, the importance of maintaining ambition, and the need for accessible financial advice. This deep conversation sheds light on how the UK can remain a prime location for business growth, touching on government policies, capital access, and the ever-evolving market landscape.
00:00 Introduction to Wealth Transfer and Octopus Group
00:25 The Rise of Octopus Energy
03:45 Expanding into Financial Coaching
08:54 The Importance of Office Culture
18:05 The AIM Market and Capital Challenges
29:39 Encouraging Entrepreneurial Growth
33:42 Expanding Businesses Overseas
34:05 Government Support for Entrepreneurs
34:59 Supercharging EIS and VCTs
36:26 Investment Strategies and Government Policies
37:13 The Role of ISAs in Supporting UK Companies
39:53 AI in Business Operations
44:04 Adapting to Business Growth
46:04 Entrepreneurial Motivation and Work-Life Balance
49:12 Building High-Performing Teams
57:25 Entrepreneurship Awards and Success Stories
59:30 Future Goals and Financial Coaching
01:00:42 Quickfire Questions and Personal Insights
01:02:10 Affordable Housing and Future Plans
01:04:35 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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May 20, 2025 • 1h 10min
Bruce Daisley | How We Fix Work Before It Breaks Us
The Future of Work: Insights from Bruce Daisley on Culture, Tech and Leadership | Jimmy's Jobs
In this episode of Jimmy's Jobs, host Jimmy McLoughlin interviews Bruce Daisley, former European Vice President for Twitter and ex-Country Director for YouTube UK. They discuss Bruce's insights on workplace culture, the impact of hybrid work, and the evolving landscape of technology companies. Bruce shares his journey from leading teams at tech giants to becoming a workplace culture consultant, emphasizing the importance of meaningful work environments. The conversation also touches on societal perceptions of work, the implications of Elon Musk's acquisition of Twitter, and strategies for fostering cohesive and productive teams. Tune in for a comprehensive exploration of the future of work and valuable lessons on improving organizational culture.
00:00 Introduction to Bruce Daisy and His Career
01:17 Bruce's Journey at YouTube
03:35 Building a Unique Team Culture at Google
04:53 Transition to Twitter and Cultural Insights
05:57 The Impact of Workplace Culture
07:52 Adapting to COVID and New Ventures
17:15 The Role of Humor and Gaps in Culture
19:25 Meeting-Free Days and Productivity
22:42 The Future of Work and Communication
26:42 Employer Branding and Career Aspirations
34:13 Navigating Political Meetings
34:45 The Complexity of Social Media Regulation
38:00 Twitter's Internal Chaos and Public Perception
39:12 Elon Musk's Influence on Twitter
42:32 The Role of Business Education
44:36 Challenges of Managing Social Media Content
48:51 Insights on Team Dynamics
50:22 Football and Leadership Lessons
57:42 Reflections on Career and Business Books
59:57 Quickfire Questions and Personal Anecdotes
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May 14, 2025 • 48min
Will Beckett | How Hawksmoor Became a £100m Steakhouse
The Secret Sauce Behind Hawksmoor: From Failed Restaurants to a £100 Million Steakhouse
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In this episode of 'Jimmy's Jobs of the Future,' we explore how Hawksmoor became one of the UK's most successful steakhouse brands, making £100 million in sales within 15 years. Hear from co-founder Will Beckett, and top chefs like Matt Brown and Seb as they share behind-the-scenes stories, cooking tips, and the journey from three borderline failed ventures to opening restaurants in London, New York, and beyond. Discover the secrets behind their famous steaks, Michelin stars, and what it takes to build a successful restaurant brand with a global reputation. Don't miss the interviews with the bar staff for insights on unique cocktails and customer experience. Subscribe now for more entrepreneurial journeys and industry insights!
00:00 The Rise of Hawksmoor
01:04 Secrets Behind the Perfect Steak
01:23 Inside the Private Kitchen: Techniques and Tips
01:49 Mastering the Grill: Expert Tips
02:29 The Art of Steak Preparation
04:12 Maintaining the Perfect Grill Temperature
09:11 How to get Michelin Stars
10:46 Building a Culinary Team
17:17 Exploring New Dishes
21:06 Seb's Journey to Head Chef
23:25 The Changing Landscape of Chef Work
24:18 Exploring the Bar's History and Signature Drinks
28:05 The Story Behind the Hawksmoor Brand
30:44 How to Build a £100m Steakhouse
41:32 The Famous Wine Mix-Up Incident
45:08 Final Thoughts and Reflections
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May 6, 2025 • 56min
Jimmy McLoughlin OBE | Jobs of the Future & 200 Episodes - Feat. Dr Eliza Filby
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Jimmy's Jobs: Celebrating 200 Episodes and the Future of Business Podcasting
In this special episode, Jimmy celebrates the milestone of 200 podcast episodes and takes a reflective look back on his journey from Downing Street advisor to stay-at-home dad and podcast host. He discusses the initial motivations for starting the podcast during the pandemic, his interest in careers education, and how podcasting became his preferred medium due to his dyslexia. Jimmy delves into the valuable lessons learned from interviewing entrepreneurs, the challenges and rewards of creating engaging business content, and the evolving landscape of business podcasting. He also shares insights on managing creative burnout and the economics behind producing high-quality episodes and running a related media business.
00:00 Introduction and Cheers
01:15 The Role of Mentorship
02:53 The Evolution of the Podcast
04:31 Business Journalism and Storytelling
06:57 Personal Reflections on Entrepreneurship
08:54 Challenges and Realities of Entrepreneurship
12:37 The Art of Interviewing
17:23 Insights from Guests
21:41 Quick Fire Round
27:19 The Future of Business Podcasting
29:35 The Future of Business Podcasting
30:55 Employee-Generated Content and Social Media
31:24 Authentic Media Content for Corporations
34:14 The Role of CEOs in Podcasts
38:08 Economics of Podcasting
44:18 Managing Creative Burnout
53:18 Dream Guests and Future Plans
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