

Thought Behind Things
Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
TBT is Pakistan's fastest-growing podcast show covering conversations around Art, Culture & Technology. Tune in thrice a week to be a part of our community!
We upload every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
We upload every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
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May 31, 2021 • 1h 2min
099 | How Schools Destroy Self-Esteem Ft. Emad Bukhari
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In conversation with Emad Bukhari, this episode explores his journey. Has he done all his schooling at LGS? How was his experience? How school destroys self-esteem? When has he started YouTube? What inspired him? What type of content he is interested in making now? How does he see the content industry right now? How has the industry evolved over time? How many big creators have reached out to him? How does the job market work? How does our perception need to be changed? What his business is all about? Tune in know more about his business, his view of Pakistan growing up, and how he sees Pakistan of 2050!

May 28, 2021 • 1h 18min
098 | Why Pakistan Started Its Nuclear Program? Ft. Shahid Raza
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In conversation with Shahid Raza, this episode explores Pakistan’s nuclear program. How nuclear technology started? What's the background? What was the reason for a country like Pakistan to start a nuclear program? How has it evolved? How Babur III operates? What was India’s cold start strategy against Pakistan? Is there any work going on in Pakistan for civil nuclear technology? How capable Pakistan is of that? What is the current global situation for civil nuclear technology? How many megawatts of energy Pakistan’s producing? What is Pakistan’s effort for a clean nuclear energy program? Tune in to know about the estimated cost for a nuclear reactor unit, nuclear capacity building, and Pakistan’s nuclear capability for attaining SDGs!
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Shahid Raza’s Twitter:
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May 26, 2021 • 1h
097 | How Storytelling Can Bring Social Change? Ft. Raheel Waqar
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In conversation with Raheel Waqar, CEO of White rice, this episode explores social change with design. What White Rice is? What inspired them to name it ‘white rice’? What a behavior design agency does? How has he gotten into this space? What are the objectives behind their projects? Why context is important in social/behavioral change? How storytelling can be used as a tool for change? What are the formative years of mind building? Where is our youth coming from? How can we tackle youth bulge? How they were able to bring 11,000 mothers on board for the world’s largest storytelling exercise? How technology can be used in what they are doing? Tune in to know more on behavioral design in the private sector and Pakistan of 2050!
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Raheel Waqar’s socials:
· https://www.linkedin.com/in/raheelwaqar/
· https://www.whiterice10x.com/

May 24, 2021 • 1h 43min
096| How Women Are Objectified Everyday? Ft. Fizza Jamal
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In conversation with Fizza Jamal, this episode her journey in new media as a woman. How it all began for her? How has she applied to NUST? How was her experience? Where has she done her F.sc from? How she did her masters from China? How empowering her experience of China was? Why she loves it so much? What happened when she came back to Pakistan? How did she end up ‘on-screen’? What is the place of women in our media? How women are being objectified? What she did when she was being objectified? When and how she left news media? Tune in to know more about how she became a meme, her struggles with presenting Urdu news, what is the typical Pakistani news style and why she is a leader!
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Fizza Jamal socials:
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· https://twitter.com/fizza_lamaj

May 21, 2021 • 1h 24min
095 | Does TV Spread Fake News? Ft. Asadullah Khan
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In conversation with Asadullah Khan, a Broadcast journalist/Anchorperson, this episode explores his journey into broadcasting. How has he gotten into journalism? What was he doing before that? News media is often contextualized in a very cynical manner, what he has to say about that? Does TV spread fake news? What is the role of television media? Is it just performative? Where do our media stand in ethics? Have we completely lost it? Why is reporting just confine to politics for a large part? Why do we not report beyond politics? Is it changing? Tune in to know more about where he sees Pakistan in the coming years!
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Asadullah’s Socials:
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· https://www.instagram.com/asadullahkhan64/

May 19, 2021 • 1h 5min
094| The Genius Behind Pawri Hori Hai Ft. Dananeer
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In conversation with Dananeer Mobeen, the ‘pawri hori Hai’ girl, this episode explores her journey before and after her viral video. How she feels about all this new attention? What has been journey before the pawri video? When she made her account public on Instagram? How long she has been making content before the video went viral? Where she got her creativity from? How did the pawri hori hai video blew up? What was the genius behind it? How her family reacted to all this? What was it like for her to receive love from all over the world? How her sister helped her out maneuver through all this? Is something international in works for her? Tune in to know about her future content plans, her upcoming skincare brand, how she dealt with toxicity and how her success is helpful for the whole industry!
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May 17, 2021 • 1h 6min
093 | Why HEC Chairman Dr. Tariq Banuri Was Ousted?
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In conversation with HEC Chairman Dr. Tariq Banuri, this episode explores HEC and what factors led to his ousting. What was his journey? How has he ended up in academia? Which think tank was established by him? What role did he play in sustainable goals? What role did he play in the formation of HEC? How had he found HEC in 2018? What changes did he want to make when he took the charge? What was the research merit before? What changes did he make to research criteria? How much change he has been able to bring in his 2 years? Will he be able to bring the rest of the changes in his remaining time? What were the points that led to his ousting/removal? Why does the government not have the power to remove him? Tune in to know more about his coming case against his ousting, how he feels about it, his relationship with the government & how he sees Pakistan in the last 20 years, and Pakistan of 2050!
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Dr. Tariq Banuri’s LinkedIn:
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May 12, 2021 • 58min
092 | Is Covid Vaccine Safe? Ft. Dr. Ahsan Aurangzeb
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In conversation with Dr. Ahsan Aurangzeb, Medical Director Ayub Teaching Hospital, this episode explores covid vaccines and the healthcare system of Pakistan. How has he gotten into medicines? What does he think of the medical system of Pakistan? What sehat Insaaf card is? Is it successful? Where does our public health system stand? How regulation in medicines work? Why students prefer going abroad to pursue medicines? What does he think of that? Is there any potential solution to it? What does he think of the young doctor’s protests? What he is responsible for as a medical director? What does he think of e-technology in medicine? Has our health system revolutionized over the years? Why our doctors lack medical ethics? How his experience of treating covid has been like in the past 15 months? Why people are so against covid vaccines? How long will its immunity last? Are covid vaccines effective? Tune in to know more about DRAP’s ruling, medical advancements, medicine manufacturing, what we need to change in our lifestyle, and what he thinks of Pakistan of 2050!
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May 10, 2021 • 57min
091 | Candid With AC Islamabad Awaid Irshad Bhatti
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In conversation with AC Islamabad, Awaid Irshad Bhatti, this episode explores his journey to civil services. Where he went to college? What is the story behind Aitchison college? Why he went to Holland? How many countries he has traveled? How traveling is different from tourism? Why had he transferred to UC Berkley? How was his experience of California? How had he managed professional cricket with his studies? When had he applied to Cambridge? What has he studied there? What was he doing in Ernst & Young? How and why he thought of doing CSS? How his family reacted to it? How everybody reacted the to news of him topping his CSS exams? Where were his early postings? What were his experiences of them? Tune in to know more on his opinions on CSS exams, system, change and Pakistan of 2050!
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· https://twitter.com/AwaidBhatti

May 7, 2021 • 59min
090 | Will Pakistan Have Peace Ft. Dr. Adnan Rafique
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In conversation with Dr. Adnan Rafique, country director for USIP for Pakistan, this episode explores peace building, security, state, and democracy. How has he got into the direction of peace building? Where he got his education from? What was his master’s thesis on? What he did between his masters and PhD? Did he started working for USIP right after coming back to Pakistan? Which national security document he worked on with ministry of interior affairs? How did he find the judicial system of Pakistan? Where Pakistan stands in terms of peace building and security? What factors cause disruption in it? Is social media responsible for it? Is social media fueling polarization? What is the reason behind this divide? Pakistan from 20 years back was progressive, how did we end up here? Do we really know our society? Tune in to know more on our democratic systems, post-colonial times, why our systems aren’t defined and where this all is headed as a society!
Books mentioned in the podcast:
‘The Politics of Common Sense’, book by Aasim Sajjad Akhtar
‘Pakistan’s Democratic Transition’, book by Adnan Rafiq, Ishtiaq Ahmad
‘Post-Colonial Society’, thesis by Hamza Alvi
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Dr. Adnan Rafique’s socials:
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/adnan-rafiq-354483a2


