Thought Behind Things

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 DISCLAIMER: The conversation in the latter part of the podcast is an open discussion. We may be right or wrong. If you agree or disagree on something, please engage with us in the comments or on our FB group. We would love to know your thoughts. Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring the journey of art, painting, and digital shift in the first half with tonight’s guest, Abdal Mufti. How has been his high school journey like? How did he get introduced to art? How has been his university life? What’s the story of starry night by Van Gogh? How has been his childhood like? What were the careers he looked for after university? In the second half, the conversation becomes more candid and open for discussion, why his art got canceled, what he has to say about cancel culture. Tune in to know on digital art, exploding painting, society being intolerant, and more! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Abdal Mufti’s Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/abdalmufti The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5TBRRZm78Q

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring the journey of working at multiple global enterprises with the co-founder of ezbuy, Kamran Shaukat. What has been his journey like, personal and professional? What did he do after his MBA? How did he start working at McDonald’s? What are the things learned working at Mcdonald's? What is his philosophy of life? Why had he moved to Malaysia? How did ‘Shell’ happen for him? How did he end up working at Walmart? After working at corporates majorly, why did he switch to E-commerce? What is ezbuy? How it’s going? What has he learned from Chinese? What’s his furniture business about? Tune in to know more on how he sees the growth of China, what Pakistan needs to learn for its optimal growth, and how he envisions Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Kamran Shaukat’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kamran-shaukat-5416a05 The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5TBRRZm78Q

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring reviving economy with imports and exports with the senior economist of World Bank, Gonzalo Varela. How did he end up being a senior economist for the world bank? What is the difference between the real exchange rate and the one we see? What is the world bank’s latest report on Pakistan’s imports? In the last decade, what’s going on with the exchange rate in Pakistan? Why it is important to have import and export parody? Tune in to know more on how to increase Pakistan’s exports and what are some of the export opportunities for Pakistan! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Gonzalo’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gonzalo-varela-6393b425

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring property investments in Islamabad with the founders of X-state, Atif, and Altamash. What is X-state? How did they think of it? Why do people invest in real estate? What are different investments in Pakistan? What’s the legal aspect of x-state from SECP? What are the different types of funding in startups? Where does their legality stand? What is their grand vision with x-state? How do they make money?  Tune in to know more on blockchain tokens, parking money on investments, their first successful IPO, and Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan X-state website: https://www.xstate.com/

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 DISCLAIMER: You may agree to disagree with some viewpoints expressed later in the video, you are free to share your opinions on our TBT community page. Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring the journey of an oversee Pakistani to his land and creating content along the way with tonight’s guest, Syed Owais Ali. How has been his early life like? Why has he decided to pursue films? How did he spend his gap year? How did he end up working for Al Jazeera? Why had he moved back to Pakistan? What kind of content he is creating? What are his plans for co-creating content with his wife? How frequently does he create content for YouTube? What’s the plan for his content? What’s the long-term goal? Will he pursue journalism in the future? Are we lacking in investigative journalism and how? Tune in to know more on free media, his take on YouTube and the digital industry, and how he envisions Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Syed Owais Ali’s YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/user/syedowaisali

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring meme culture with the biggest memer in Pakistan, Dr. Naseer Ahsan. He is the founder of Pendu Production. How his evolution has been like? Why has he decided to do medical from Kyrgyzstan? What does he think about the National licensing exam? Are there any problems on the demand side from patients? How did he get into meme-making? How does he see the meme industry? Why memers and TikToker’s have a rift? What Dr. Naseer has to say about free media? What he has to say about dark meme culture? Should meme pages be regulated? How meme is the new form of communication? How does one learn the art of being a memer? Tune in to know more on the nationalist movement in India, mental health issues in society, and Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Dr. Naseer Ahsan’s socials: Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/penduproductions Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/naseerahsan1/

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring economic policies, global trends, and rising inflation with tonight’s guest, Hamza Farrukh. He is the Vice President at Goldman Sachs and the founder of Bondh E Shams, the solar water charity. What has been his journey like since high school to date? Did he start working at Goldman Sachs right after graduation? How has he started Bondh E Shams? How he was able to get into Wall Street? Where does he see the global economy headed towards? Is the American financial system in recovery? What economic policies are being tested all this time? How does he see The US, China, and the new economic trends? Tune in to know more new geo-economic order, what countries like Pakistan can expect, the value of a dollar, and Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Hamza Farrukh’s socials: Twitter: https://twitter.com/hamzafarrukh LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hamzafarrukh

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring E-commerce and E-retail startup system in Pakistan with tonight’s guests, Monis Rehman. What are the startups he is currently working on? How did he end up working in tech? Where he was when the dot-com bubble happened? What does he think of Pakistan as a potential customer base? What is ‘Dukan’? What are they currently doing with ‘Dukan’? How are they changing Pakistan’s e-retail system? How are they making advertising effective for SMEs? How partnerships and collaborations are important in startups? Tune in to know more on Dukan, Finja, his ecosystem, and how he sees Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Monis Rehman’s socials: Twitter: https://twitter.com/monispk LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/monis

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International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Tonight, we have with us ‘Anaa’ and ‘Hum Kahan Ke Sachay Thay’ famed actor, Usman Mukhtar. This episode explores his journey from Kuch Khaas to the Pakistani drama and film industry. Does he come from a traditional family? How were his early years? Did he always want to pursue acting? What had he thought about the content industry in his early days? How Kuch Khaas made a huge difference in his life? What Kuch Khaas is? What does he feel about the Pakistani drama industry? Why are we not producing serials like Turkish dramas? What does he think about OTT and Netflix's original content in Pakistan? How ‘Anaa’ made a huge difference in his career? Tune in to know more on Hum Kahan Ke Sachay Thay, the future of cinema, social media commentary, online hate speech, and Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Usman Mukhtar’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mukhtarhoonmein/