

Thought Behind Things
Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
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We upload every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
We upload every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
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Oct 17, 2022 • 1h 59min
270 | Do We Even Need 5G In Pakistan? Ft. Ericsson
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Aamir Ahsan. What was Amir’s early life & education like? High school dreams & the route to GIK? Why did he choose computer science at that time? How did the ‘high barrier of trying’ help him grow? how was the bond & connection of lifelong friends? How was Moving to Islamabad? What was it like growing up with inspiration in mind? The Department of Communication Security Vs. Ericsson? His role at Ericsson? What does Erricson do? Career progression & growth? Ericsson - A Global Delivery Center. Telecom, Enterprises,1H, & much more? The new concepts of Ericsson? Disrupting the concept of server boxes with high-speed internet? Getting into the IUT world? Providing security & upholding human rights? Consumer security Vs. Product offering? Is Ericsson trustworthy and secure? The future of telecom hardware & the global 5G race? Should location-specific licensing & connectivity be a thing? Why is the telecommunication industry suffering? Why does connectivity always come first? What is telecom like worldwide? Experience in Warid & going to Iran? Who is Iqbal in Amir’s perception? Spirituality, self-discovery & inspiration. What is Amir’s purpose in life? How does he see Pakistan 20 years from now? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Oct 14, 2022 • 2h 31min
269 | foodpanda: Delivering Convenience To Millions of Pakistanis Ft. Muntaqa and Waqas
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guests, Muntaqa Peracha and Syed Waqas Azhar. What was Muntaqa’s journey like? How was his time at Georgia Tech? What was the next step after graduation & how did it go from there? Does he regret coming back to Pakistan? What was his experience with IBM like? How did his career progress? Where would he advise a graduate to go? What was working with Dun & Bradstreet & TPL Corp Ltd like? Why don’t we opt for insurance in Pakistan? How did he end up at foodpanda? What was Waqas’s journey like? How did his career progress? What was working on Dettol, Tarang, and Olper’s like? Marketing Vs. Operations in Engro Foods? Why did they go for the stock offerings? Joining The Coca-Cola Company and how did it go? Why did he choose to come to foodpanda? How has foodpanda transformed over the years? Why didn’t “shops” catch on? How was marketing for foodpanda different than other brands? Do we have more access to data now & is it needed? Would they ever consider creating multiple apps? What are they doing with data? Are there other opportunities that they can take advantage of? Can we expect to see Panda Mall? What’s the cost they incur? What are they doing about the electrification of logistics? Pickup, Dine-in? How do they want to expand? What’s their financial health like? How do they envision Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and so much more in tonight’s episode.
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Muntaqa’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muntaqaperacha/?originalSubdomain=pk
Waqas’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/syed-waqas-azhar-b350bb20/
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Oct 12, 2022 • 2h 11min
268 | Serving 1 Million+ Patients Through MARHAM Ft. Ehsan and Asma
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guests, Ehsan Imam and Asma Salman Omer. What was Ehsan’s journey like? How did he manage to secure a remote position with a Canadian company back then? What opportunities did he get and how did his career progress? What was Asma’s journey like? Why didn’t she relocate to a bigger city for her education? Was it hard back then? How did the university shape her? How did her career progress? How did Marham happen? What is it about? Why and when did Asma join MARHAM? What have they accomplished in the past six years? How does it work? What has the evolution been like? Are they profitable? What’s the model? How do they bring a doctor on board and make sure he/she is good? Building a profile & opportunities? Is there room for improvement? How are they ensuring growth? Digital Vs. Physical consultations? How do they envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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Ehsan’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehsanimam/?originalSubdomain=au
Asma’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/asma-salman-omer-985129b7/?originalSubdomain=pk
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Oct 10, 2022 • 49min
267 | Are Sports A Good Investment? Ft. Shoaib and Abdullah
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guests, Muhammad Shoaib and Abdullah Adnan. What has Shoaib’s journey been like? How and why did he get into tennis? How did it progress? What was Abdullah’s journey like? What’s it like to be a 19-year-old in tennis? What are Indian sports like? Local Vs. International tournaments? How do they earn money? Can this model be commercialized? How many good players do we have in Pakistan? Do we have enough courts in Pakistan? Why isn’t there no live streaming? What was their preparation for the tournament like? How do they financially support themselves? Why should you invest in Sports? Catch this and so much more in tonight’s episode.
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One8nine Media: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6akyz6EpkwyzBmKh0L2rSQ
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Oct 7, 2022 • 1h 51min
266 | Raising 13 Million Dollars For Trucks Ft. Muhammad Sarmad Farooq
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Muhammad Sarmad Farooq. What has Sarmad’s journey been like? What was it like growing up & then moving out of Talagang? What is manufacturing engineering and how did he end up doing it? What was his time at GIK like? What did he do post-graduation? What was it like working in Careem and how did his career progress? Careem’s food delivery in Saudi and why wasn’t the same model brought to Pakistan? Why did he quit? How did he end up thinking about starting Truck It In? What was Sarmad’s family transport business and What was the marketplace like back then? Is there any value in this? How did they go about it? What has changed for the factory owner? Is it beneficial in terms of pricing? How do they earn money & Is it profitable? Were there any conversions? Is there any competition? Is the market heading towards it? The goal of their fundraising? What to expect & will they work on it? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and so much more in tonight’s episode.
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Oct 5, 2022 • 2h 15min
265 | Funding Farmdar, Roomy, Metric & Many More Ft. Shehryar Hydri
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Shehryar Hydri. What was his journey like? How did his work progress? Islamabadi’s Vs. Karachites: Career choices & goals? Joining the Tech industry and what happened next? Maula Jatt & why wasn’t the game released? Building leaders: What role does workplace culture play? Why did they wrap up Trango & what happened next? What was his experience at Convo like? Funding back in the time and joining P@SHA? Did the dollar freefall impact the IT sector? What was the talent availability like back then? What should be done & is enough effort being done for this? STZA’s and what happened? Is there still an opportunity for IT growth in Pakistan? The thought behind the VC Funding & how did it go? What money are they investing? Why are the investors coming to Pakistan? Where have they invested & why? What is Roomy’s model like? How is it going for KeepTruckin & what is their model? What is the benchmark required to contact Shehryar? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and so much more in tonight’s episode.
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Oct 3, 2022 • 1h 41min
264 | Who’s To Blame For Pakistan’s Crisis Situation? Ft. Javed Hassan
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Javed Hassan. What’s happening in Pakistan right now? Is something being done? What can having a strong mandate change? How close are we to a catastrophe, and why? What can a strong government bring? Is there any silver lining? Why is sovereignty important? What about our underemployment issues & unproductive SOE’s? What structural changes need to be done and how? How do we save money? Why haven’t we been able to upscale our talent? Does agriculture merit expansion? Floods and how is this affecting Pakistan? Where is the money from the funds going? Technocracy and what can we see happening? Climate economy - is there a potential opportunity? Catch this and so much more in tonight’s episode.
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Javed’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/javedhassan?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
One8nine Media: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6akyz6EpkwyzBmKh0L2rSQ
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Sep 30, 2022 • 1h 27min
263 | Pakistan's Youngest Startup CEO Ft. Muhammad Ahmad
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Muhammad Ahmad. What is his business about? Early life and Education? Why did he choose to go to Nust and not LUMS? Why did he choose to do mechanical engineering and how did it go? How did he ensure his university will be different? Did “thinking out of the box” work? The thought behind starting InLights & how did he make it happen? What is their next move going to be? Does this exist in the market & why they still wanted to do it? What does Ahmad have to say about the scope for engineers? What are Pakistani engineers waiting for & why do we do anything? “Perspective Theory” & does the law of attraction really work? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and so much more in tonight’s episode.
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Sep 28, 2022 • 1h 21min
262 | Real Estate Business In Pakistan: Is It A Good Investment? Ft. Wahaaj Nauman Qureshi
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Wahaaj Nauman Qureshi. What was his early life and education like? Moving towards banking and how did it progress? What is relationship management & investment banking? Why did he leave banking and what happened after? How did he get into real estate and how is it going? Acquisition of Land - How to avoid scams? What market gimmicks are used? Is the market too saturated? What to do about financing & how can we go towards self-regulation? Affordable housing and how can it be done? Eighteen’s model and do we need more of this? Is there any chance for everything to get fixed? How does he envision Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and so much more in tonight’s episode.
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Sep 26, 2022 • 1h 24min
261 | Exploring India: What Went Wrong? Ft. Osamah Nasir
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Osamah Nasir. What was his journey like? Do Karachites go to universities outside of Karachi? Why did he choose Szabist and not LUMS? How did he start food blogging? How did it go? How did he end up in Indonesia? Did he get value for the money he paid? What was the experience like? Did this trip change Osama in any way? What was it like visiting India? What went wrong? How did his parents find out? What did he do post-graduation? What was it like in Hungary? How was it like backpacking solo across Europe? Suffering from COVID, moving back & food blogging? How does he see the current food review industry? How does he envision Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and so much more in tonight’s episode.
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