

Thought Behind Things
Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
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Dec 26, 2022 • 1h 11min
300 | Season Finale With Founder NetSol Salim Ghauri
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Salim Ghauri. What was his early life and education like? Why did he move to Romania? What was working at Citi Bank Riyadh like? How important is self-learning? His first software sale? Starting a business & leaving the bank job? The loss of his business & coming back to Pakistan? What was working in Sydney for 8 years like? Why did he leave his job there? How did his brother help him? His first project & the start of NetSol? What struggles did he face? What was getting the Taiwan project like? The evolution of NetSol over the years? What is its scale of operation of it right now? How does it work? What is the impact of the global rate of the dollar value on the IT industry? When did NetSol got listed? How can we solve the problem of fewer resources in Pakistan? How does he envision NetSol fifty years from now? How does Salim see Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Dec 23, 2022 • 1h 34min
299 | Providing Quality Education Globally For Free Ft. Bilal Musharraf
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Bilal Musharraf. What was his early life and education like? What was studying at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign like? What is Actuarial science? What was growing up in Pakistan in the 70s and 80s like? Parvez Musharraf & his growth? Why he did not accept the luxuries offered to him because of his father? How can a country's ecosystem evolve economically & socially? The difference in economic cultures between the US & Pakistan? Non-profit organizations in Pakistan & their efficiency? How the Netherlands can be a role model for other countries? Why did he switch from the financial sector to educational technology? What was his work experience with Khan Academy & Edmodo like? The idea behind Noon Academy? What is Bilal’s long-term projection for Pakistan? His thoughts on the future leadership of Pakistan? How does he see the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Dec 21, 2022 • 1h 9min
298 | Pakistan’s No.1 Ride-Hailing App Ft. Team inDrive
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guests, Afanasiy Petrov, Hasan Ali Quershi & Sidra Kiran. What is the history of inDrive? How many countries is inDrive covering? How inDrive is different than other ride-hailing companies? Why did they choose to launch inDrive in Pakistan? The inDrive business model & the consumer behavior? Key features of inDrive app? The rebranding from inDriver to inDrive? What other services are introduced by inDrive? How were they able to fuel the growth of inDrive in Pakistan? Dealing with customer growth and security? The inDrive pit stop in Islamabad? Are they planning to integrate digital payments? How do they deal with customer complaints? What is the future of inDrive in Pakistan? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Sidra Kiran’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sidra-kiran-93b828133/
Hasan Qureshi’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hasanaliqureshi138831/
Afanasiy Petrov’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/petrovafanasiy/
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Dec 19, 2022 • 1h 49min
297 | What Is The Future Of Digital Payments In Pakistan? Ft. Fawad Abdul Kader
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Fawad Abdul Kader. What was his early life and education like? What was his first job like? His work experience at Bank Alfalah? What was working in Dubai like? How did working at MCB bank change his career? Introducing digital wallet space via MCB lite? What did digital payments & banking space look like up until 2021? Joining Alfalah & the launch of mobile paesa? What was shifting from Bank Alfalah to NiFT like? Why a large amount of the Pakistani population is still unbanked? The thought behind starting paymob? What does paymob offer? Integrating paymob online and physically? Fraud deduction mechanism of paymob and its strategy? The physical aspect of paymob’s payment method? How can a mobile phone be converted into a pos machine? The growth rate of paymob & the pos machines? Details of the pos machine? What is the future of the fintech market & paymob in Pakistan in the next 10 years? How does Fawad envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Paymob’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/paymobcompany/
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Dec 16, 2022 • 1h 11min
296 | Spreading Science To The Masses Ft. Muhammad Sabieh Anwar
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Muhammad Sabieh Anwar. What was his early life and education like? How did he get the Rhodes scholarship? What was his experience at Oxford University like? What is Quantum Computing? What was his research on Liquid Quantum Computers? His experience at the University of California, Berkeley? His work experience at LUMS? The evolution of LUMS School Of Engineering over the past 15 years? Did he regret coming back to Pakistan? What new initiatives will the school of engineering offer in the future? How can engineering industries affect Pakistan’s economy? What’s the thought behind the Khwarizmi Science Society? What’s the importance of providing content in the local language? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Khwarizmi Science Society: https://khwarizmi.org/profile/muhammad-sabieh-anwar/
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Dec 14, 2022 • 1h 57min
295 | Understanding The Political Economy Of Pakistan Ft. Dr. Taimur Rahman
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Dr. Taimur Rahman. What was his early life & education like? What are the areas that made him think differently about Pakistan? What is his experience at LUMS like? What is political economy? Why did he focus on the Pakistani class structure? What was Pakistan like before the British invasion? What was trade & commerce like in the middle age? Political economy at the time of evolution? How has Pakistan's economy evolved since 1947? What is a green revolution? How did it affect the social structure? What happened to the economic growth in the 70s? Why are most of the skilled labor & capital of Pakistan immigrating? What public sector can do to solve the problems? What did India do to build their infrastructure through the public sector? IMF, the economic policy, taxation & profit maximization? How can the government fix the power issues in Pakistan? The bureaucracy of Pakistan? Making PIA efficient Vs. International airlines? Capitalist Vs. Socialist solution? How does he envision Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Dec 12, 2022 • 1h 20min
294 | Lahore's Greatest Showman Ft. Jahanzaib Shafique
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Jahanzaib Shafique. What was his early life & education like? What was managing his first event like? How did he manage the public? What was the start of his event management career like? How did becoming popular affect his personality? What was his experience at LUMS like? What was his first paid work like? How did he find JbnJaws? What events did they use to cover? How did they deal with the crisis? Why they did not manage wedding events? Why they did not manage wedding events? Screw-ups & Learnings? What was the need to diversify? Introducing Cartel Media & PR? What are the challenges for event management companies in Pakistan? How to solve them? Is there any innovation in this industry over the last 5 years? How does he see Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Dec 9, 2022 • 1h 42min
293 | The Thought Behind Pakistani Media & Politics Ft. Syed Muzammil Shah
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Syed Muzammil Shah. What was his early life & education like? What was the start of his professional career like? What is the superficiality in Pakistani media? What is the psychology of television? Why did he join the media? Will the media industry ever change? Brand names, cross critique & Pakistani media? The difference between international and Pakistani audiences? Why is there a rise in populism? Rationalization, religion & science? Why is it essential for a state to only be concerned about its citizens? Bringing change with nonparliamentary struggle? Views on Imran Khan & his government? Why should leaders be consistent in their actions? PTI Vs. PMLN? The idea of the schooling system & religious philosophy? How are Pashtuns affected by the distribution of religion by the state? How does Syed Muzammil Shah envision Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Dec 7, 2022 • 1h 20min
292 | The Power Of Manifestation Ft. Shahveer Jafry
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Shahveer Jafry. How was his experience in representing Pakistan at YouTube Creator Summit? How TikTok is different from YouTube shorts & reels? What is the hype of YouTube shorts like? His early life and education? How growing up in the US is different from Canada? Why is Canada a country worth living? What cultural shock did he face after moving to a new country? How did cross cultural exchange affected his way of thinking? How did he became friends with Zaid and Sham Idrees? When did he start creating content? When did he get the idea of manifestation? What was working with Atif Aslam like? When did he get the idea of manifestation? Why he believes in it? How did reading books, dreaming & working hard help him grow? Are dreams really based on how many privileges one have? How does he see Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Dec 5, 2022 • 1h 29min
291 | The Pakistani Mark Cuban Ft. Nabeel Qadeer
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Nabeel Qadeer. What was his early life & education like? How was his experience at FAST? What did he do post-graduation? How does working help him grow? How did he cope with his family problems? Why did he choose to study abroad? How did it affect him? Joining Punjab Information Technology Board? Which of his work is he proud of? What did he learn from working in the government? Government Vs. Private sector? The struggle behind starting “Idea Caroron Ka”? How can skill-based universities brighten up the future of Pakistan? Generating value & earning money? The thought behind Nabeel’s book? How does he envision Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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