

Thought Behind Things
Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
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We upload every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
We upload every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
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Nov 21, 2022 • 1h 29min
285 | Who Will Win Pakistan’s Game Of Thrones? Ft. Moonis Elahi
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Moonis Elahi. What was his early life & education like? How was living abroad different from living in Pakistan? When & how did he join his family business? When did he join politics? His win from Gujrat? What are his views on today’s voting system? His political revolution from 2007-2022? Why did he support Imran Khan? Why not the Shareefs? What will be the political evolvement based on current events? Why is the nation supporting Khan now? Youth & today’s politics? The future & the evolvement of politics? The problems with Pakistan’s agricultural industry & its economical value? Does Pakistan need a new constitution? Political point scoring & how will Moonis maneuver through that? Digitization & de-monetization of cash in Pakistan? Why does Bureaucracy need to be efficient? Why isn’t there any ERP of the government? The potential pros & cons of South Punjab as a province? Will there be any more provinces beyond South Punjab? Will the structure of his party evolve over time? What’s the post-Imran era like? Are NAB, FIA & other systems suffocating or efficient in Pakistan? Will there be any change in the abusive use of power? How does he contextualize the assassination attempt on Imran Khan? How does Moonis envision Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and so much more in tonight's episode.
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Nov 18, 2022 • 2h 6min
284 | Raising Pakistan’s Tourism Industry Ft. Muhammad Komail Abbas
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Muhammad Komail Abbas. What was his early life & education like? How was his experience at LUMS? What was Khoj about? His experience working at Standard Chartered Bank? The launch of FindMyAdventure? Building a team? Problems with digital platforms? How was his interview with Careem’s MD? How did it change his career? What are the three things to build a startup? How did his family react when he left the job? Starting a business with friends? Funding from the investors? How did he sort out equity when his business partners were moving on? His experience with the Alibaba Group in China? What are Jack Ma’s views about Pakistan? When was Komail running the startup alone? How did he manage the company with limited money? What happened before introducing GoZayaan? His learnings from FindMyAdventure? What are the reasons for merging with GoZayaan? How does Komail envision Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Komail’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/nkomail
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Nov 16, 2022 • 1h 55min
283 | Building Digital Businesses In Emerging Markets Ft. Atyab Tahir
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Atyab Tahir. What was his early life & education like? What was it like being an immigrant in the US? What was his experience as a management information system student in Boston? How did 9/11 affect his life? Why did he move to Pakistan? His experience in Pakistan? What was working with the emerging market in Kuwait like? Why did he go back to the US? When did he start his digital career? What was his work experience at HBL and Tameer bank like? What were his contributions while working at Mastercard? What is its utility in the ecosystem? What’s the future of Central Bank Digital Currency? Will bank cycles change in the near future? Why does Fintech need to be a niche player? How to solve problems for a fluent bank-to-bank transfer? Is the data being generated or wasted in Pakistan? Why is it important to understand the customers? What are the financial incentives for the masses of any company? What is the scope of financial services in Pakistan? How does he see the future of Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Nov 14, 2022 • 1h 28min
282 | Building Textile Business In South Punjab Ft. Anees Khawaja
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Anees Khawaja. What was his early life & education like? How did he get involved in his family business? How do short courses help his education career? What is it like to live & grow a business in Multan? What are the other businesses he is dealing with? Why all his businesses are situated in South Punjab? What is its political & economic value? What are the differences South Punjab would make if it will become a province? What is the future of textiles in Pakistan? How will it expand? The importance of defining strategies for the industries? How does Anees view the production & export of the agri market? What is the potential opportunity behind a climate-friendly business? How can we be sustainable human beings? How can we deal with the unfortunate events in Pakistan? Opportunities in South Punjab Vs. other parts of Pakistan? Thriving stock market & creating corporate structures? Will there be any mentality shift in the legacy businesses? How does Anees envision Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Nov 11, 2022 • 1h 54min
281 | Pakistan’s First Female Founded Venture Capital Fund Ft. Kalsoom Lakhani & Misbah Naqvi
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guests, Kalsoom Lakhani & Misbah Naqvi. What was Kalsoom’s early life & education like? What was growing up in Dhaka like? How did she manage university during 9/11? What was her life like after that? Why did she study politics? What leads her to become an investor? How did she start CHUP? How did she foundInvest2Innovate? Misbah’s early life & education? What was working in public affairs & Citigroup like? How did she end up working at Acumen? What’s its philosophy? When did she join i2i? What is the importance of working as a team? What are i2i ventures? Why do they invest in startup founders? What is the current situation of digital payments in Pakistan? What is credit scoring & why is Pakistan lacking it? How do they see RAAST? How can NADRA be a game changer? What’s the future of agriculture funding? What are the untouched impactful sectors & opportunities in Pakistan? What are the issues in Pakistan’s educational sector? Will Pakistani startups reach a regional level over a decade? How can we make Pakistan’s economy sustainable? Pakistan politics, its economy, startups & education? How do they see the future of Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Kalsoom’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kalsoomlakhani/
Misbah’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/misbahnaqvi/?originalSubdomain=pk
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Nov 9, 2022 • 1h 20min
280 | Making Easy Overseas Payments In Pakistan Ft. Payoneer
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Mohsin Muzaffar. His early life & education? What was growing up in Gujranwala like? His experience at Punjab University? When did he learn to use the internet? How was his first job experience? Why did he leave UAE? What was finding a job here in Pakistan like? What was his first project as a freelancer? Why upscaling is important in Pakistan? His work experience in oDesk? How did he start working at Payoneer? The scope of freelancing in Pakistan? How much it has grown over the years? What are the services that Payoneer offers? Its vision & future? Payoneer Vs. Wise? How long he has been in the field of freelancing? How does Mohsin envision Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Nov 7, 2022 • 1h 19min
279 | How To Build A Successful Digital Marketing Platform? Ft. Ali Khan Swati
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Ali Khan Swati. What are his current businesses? Ali’s early life & education? How did his friends influence him? How did he get into the digital field? How was his experience at Outreach? How did he deal with his father’s loss? What was starting Awaami & Red Tale like? Getting married & starting a business with his wife? Knowing the e-commerce industry? What is Layesha cosmetics? What is the concept of brand marketing, influencer marketing & freelancing in Pakistan? Why getting a degree is important? What is the success rate of online courses? Is it better than getting a degree? Why are polishing skills important? Why is it important to share failures with the audience? Industry growth and scamming? What is the market demand? Earning easy money and the gap between demand, supply & talent? Where is talent? How does Ali see Pakistan in the year 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Ali Khan Swati’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aliswatiofficial/
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Nov 4, 2022 • 1h 18min
278 | Making ‘Made in Pakistan’ Cardiac Stents Ft. Dr. Murtaza Najabat Ali
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Dr. Murtaza Najabat Ali. What is biomedical engineering? What is its scope in Pakistan? What was Murtaza’s early life and education like? When did he write the letter to the president? His work experience in NESCOM? Why did he go back to UK ? When did he join NUST & what are his contributions towards it? What was the stent scandal? How did he inaugurated MDDC at NUST? What is N - ovative health technology? Private sectors & medical tech industry? What is the DRAP & triple helix model? What is the science & technology park at NUST? The importance of equality based partnerships? Exporting & Importing in the medical tech industry? What is the raw material market? What are the price differences in it? How important is it to experiment with different ideas? Murtaza’s health scare & how did he overcome it? His spiritual side? What is his aim & purpose of life? Why is there a lack in religious academia? How does Murtaza envision Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Nov 2, 2022 • 1h 23min
277 | Fixing The Broken Agriculture Supply Chain Ft. CEO EasyFresh
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Muhammad Mustafa. What was Mustafa's early life & education like? What was his work experience in P&G, Jazz & PTCL like? How did he get into Stanford? The launch & experiences of Mauqa online? The challenges he faced from it? How important are training and upscaling of the workers? His startup launch of EasyFresh & the roles involved in it? Who are his co-founders & teammates? What is the importance of farming & retailing? Is it tech-friendly? What is the future of EasyFresh? Its partnerships with Farmdar & Truck It In? Is trucking the only way to transfer goods? What is it selling currently? Who are its customers? Are retailers active customers? Is EasyFresh profitable? Who are the potential partners of EasyFresh? Mustafa’s thoughts on the agricultural industry of Pakistan? The quality of agricultural goods in Pakistan? What’s the future of farming? How does Mustafa see Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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EasyFresh Official Website: https://easyfreshtech.com/
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Oct 31, 2022 • 1h 52min
276 | AI Engineer Revolutionising Goat Farming In Pakistan Ft. Atique Ur Rehman
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Atique Ur Rehman. What was Atique’s early life & education like? What was his experience in FAST like? What are the pros of being a NICT student? The importance of changing teaching methodologies? The importance of good communication & how did he improve it? What is the importance of getting exposure & how did it help Atique build his personality? What is AI? How did Atique build his interest in it? What was project ‘snap that’? Why did he choose not to move abroad & build a career in Pakistan? When & how AI was introduced in FAST? What was his master's in CS like? AI as a marketing gimmick and more? Where does AI stand today? What are its contributions to career building? Atique’s diagnosis of fibromatosis & how did he overcome the trauma of it? What is the idea & vision behind Maveshi farms? Health issues in Pakistan & organic farming? How does Atique envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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