

Thought Behind Things
Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
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Feb 24, 2023 • 1h 15min
303 | Javed Hassan: Indo-Pak Relationships, IMF, Structural Reforms & Resolving Economical Crisis
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Javed Hassan is an economist and the former chairman of the Economic Advisory Group.
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Javed Hassan’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/javedhassan
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Feb 22, 2023 • 1h 44min
302 | Suleman Sharif: PMLN, Elections, Dynastic Politics & Money Laundering Case
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Suleman Shehbaz Sharif is a Pakistani businessman, and the son of the Prime Minister of Pakistan, Mian Muhammad Shehbaz Sharif.
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Suleman’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/sulemansharif82?lang=en
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Feb 20, 2023 • 1h 52min
301 | Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi: Economy, Podcast, Inflation and Leaving Pakistan
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Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi is the host of Asia’s fastest-growing tech podcast ‘thought behind things’ and the founder of one8nine Media.
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Humna’s Official Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/humnaraza/
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Feb 16, 2023 • 50min
Special Episode | Imran Khan: IMF, Elections, Conspiracies, Economy and Hope
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In today’s special episode, we have with us Imran Khan the former prime minister of Pakistan, a politician, and a sportsman. We have discussed his health, the conspiracies he’s been facing, the statements given by Gen.Bajwa, his reaction towards the recordings presented to the media, the importance of having rule of law, PTI and its pacified protests, corruption, and what changes will occur to the system if Khan returns after the elections?
Catch this and so much more in this special episode.
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Jan 11, 2023 • 1h 17min
Special Episode | Growing Economy At Super Speed Ft. CCO Jazz Asif Aziz
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Asif Aziz. What was his early life and education like? What was growing up in the UK like? What was his first job? How have businesses evolved over time? His work experience at Orange? What was working in South Africa like? When did he move to Dubai and how did it affect his family? Why did he move back to Pakistan? His journey at Jazz? What is the role of a CCO? How Jazz has evolved over time? Why access to the internet and financial freedom is important to grow the economy of Pakistan? What is the thought behind promoting freelancing and women empowerment? What does Jazz offer? The innovation of Jazz as a digital enabler? What is the future of telecoms? The availability of 5G? How does he envision Pakistan 27 years from now? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Asif’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/asif-aziz-38a0821/?originalSubdomain=pk
Jazz Official Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jazzdigital/
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Dec 26, 2022 • 1h 11min
300 | Season Finale With Founder NetSol Salim Ghauri
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Salim Ghauri. What was his early life and education like? Why did he move to Romania? What was working at Citi Bank Riyadh like? How important is self-learning? His first software sale? Starting a business & leaving the bank job? The loss of his business & coming back to Pakistan? What was working in Sydney for 8 years like? Why did he leave his job there? How did his brother help him? His first project & the start of NetSol? What struggles did he face? What was getting the Taiwan project like? The evolution of NetSol over the years? What is its scale of operation of it right now? How does it work? What is the impact of the global rate of the dollar value on the IT industry? When did NetSol got listed? How can we solve the problem of fewer resources in Pakistan? How does he envision NetSol fifty years from now? How does Salim see Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Salim Ghauri’s Twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/salimghauri
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Dec 23, 2022 • 1h 34min
299 | Providing Quality Education Globally For Free Ft. Bilal Musharraf
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Bilal Musharraf. What was his early life and education like? What was studying at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign like? What is Actuarial science? What was growing up in Pakistan in the 70s and 80s like? Parvez Musharraf & his growth? Why he did not accept the luxuries offered to him because of his father? How can a country's ecosystem evolve economically & socially? The difference in economic cultures between the US & Pakistan? Non-profit organizations in Pakistan & their efficiency? How the Netherlands can be a role model for other countries? Why did he switch from the financial sector to educational technology? What was his work experience with Khan Academy & Edmodo like? The idea behind Noon Academy? What is Bilal’s long-term projection for Pakistan? His thoughts on the future leadership of Pakistan? How does he see the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Dec 21, 2022 • 1h 9min
298 | Pakistan’s No.1 Ride-Hailing App Ft. Team inDrive
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guests, Afanasiy Petrov, Hasan Ali Quershi & Sidra Kiran. What is the history of inDrive? How many countries is inDrive covering? How inDrive is different than other ride-hailing companies? Why did they choose to launch inDrive in Pakistan? The inDrive business model & the consumer behavior? Key features of inDrive app? The rebranding from inDriver to inDrive? What other services are introduced by inDrive? How were they able to fuel the growth of inDrive in Pakistan? Dealing with customer growth and security? The inDrive pit stop in Islamabad? Are they planning to integrate digital payments? How do they deal with customer complaints? What is the future of inDrive in Pakistan? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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inDrive’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/indrive.pk?igshid=YWJhMjlhZTc=
Sidra Kiran’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sidra-kiran-93b828133/
Hasan Qureshi’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hasanaliqureshi138831/
Afanasiy Petrov’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/petrovafanasiy/
One8nine Media: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6akyz6EpkwyzBmKh0L2rSQ
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Dec 19, 2022 • 1h 49min
297 | What Is The Future Of Digital Payments In Pakistan? Ft. Fawad Abdul Kader
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Fawad Abdul Kader. What was his early life and education like? What was his first job like? His work experience at Bank Alfalah? What was working in Dubai like? How did working at MCB bank change his career? Introducing digital wallet space via MCB lite? What did digital payments & banking space look like up until 2021? Joining Alfalah & the launch of mobile paesa? What was shifting from Bank Alfalah to NiFT like? Why a large amount of the Pakistani population is still unbanked? The thought behind starting paymob? What does paymob offer? Integrating paymob online and physically? Fraud deduction mechanism of paymob and its strategy? The physical aspect of paymob’s payment method? How can a mobile phone be converted into a pos machine? The growth rate of paymob & the pos machines? Details of the pos machine? What is the future of the fintech market & paymob in Pakistan in the next 10 years? How does Fawad envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Paymob’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/paymobcompany/
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Dec 16, 2022 • 1h 11min
296 | Spreading Science To The Masses Ft. Muhammad Sabieh Anwar
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Muhammad Sabieh Anwar. What was his early life and education like? How did he get the Rhodes scholarship? What was his experience at Oxford University like? What is Quantum Computing? What was his research on Liquid Quantum Computers? His experience at the University of California, Berkeley? His work experience at LUMS? The evolution of LUMS School Of Engineering over the past 15 years? Did he regret coming back to Pakistan? What new initiatives will the school of engineering offer in the future? How can engineering industries affect Pakistan’s economy? What’s the thought behind the Khwarizmi Science Society? What’s the importance of providing content in the local language? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Sabieh’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muhammad-sabieh-anwar-a266684/?originalSubdomain=pk
Sabieh’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/anwarsabieh
Khwarizmi Science Society: https://khwarizmi.org/profile/muhammad-sabieh-anwar/
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