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Welcome to the cozy corner of the tech world where ones and zeros mingle with casual chit-chat. Datatopics Unplugged is your go-to spot for relaxed discussions around tech, news, data, and society.Dive into conversations that should flow as smoothly as your morning coffee (but don't), where industry insights meet laid-back banter. Whether you're a data aficionado or just someone curious about the digital age, pull up a chair, relax, and let's get into the heart of data, unplugged style!
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Aug 14, 2025 • 1h 7min
#87 How to Successfully Integrate AI into Your Business, with Tim Leers (Global Generative & Agentic AI Lead)
Send us a textWhat happens when AI hype collides with enterprise reality? Tim Leers, Global Generative & Agentic AI Lead at Dataroots, pulls back the curtain on what's actually working—and what's not—in enterprise AI deployment today.We begin by examining why companies like Klarna publicly announced replacing customer service teams with AI, only to quietly backtrack months later when quality suffered. This pattern of inflated expectations followed by reality checks has become common, creating what Tim calls "AI theater" – impressive demos with minimal business impact.The conversation tackles the often misunderstood concept of "agentic AI." Rather than viewing it as a specific technology, Tim frames agency as fundamentally about delegated authority – the ability to trust AI systems with meaningful responsibilities. However, this delegation requires contextual intelligence—providing the right data at the right time—which most organizations struggle to implement effectively."Models are commodities, data is your moat," Tim explains, arguing that proprietary business context will remain the key differentiator even as AI models continue advancing. This perspective challenges the conventional wisdom that focuses primarily on model capabilities rather than data infrastructure.Perhaps most valuably, Tim outlines three pillars for successful enterprise AI: contextual intelligence, continuous improvement (designing systems that evolve with changing business contexts), and human-AI collaboration. This framework shifts focus from technology deployment to sustainable business value creation.The discussion concludes with eight practical lessons for organizations implementing generative AI, from avoiding the temptation to build proprietary models to recognizing that teaching employees to prompt effectively isn't sufficient for enterprise-wide adoption. Each lesson reinforces a central theme: successful AI implementation requires designing for change rather than building rigid systems that quickly become obsolete.Whether you're a technical leader evaluating vendor claims or a business executive trying to separate AI reality from fantasy, this episode provides the practical guidance needed to move beyond the hype cycle toward meaningful implementation.

Jul 17, 2025 • 1h 3min
#86 What’s Next for Kubernetes? KubeCon 2025 Recap with Nick Schouten
Send us a textWelcome to the cozy corner of the tech world! Datatopics is your go-to spot for relaxed discussions around tech, news, data, and society.In this episode of Data Topics, we sit down with Nick Schouten — data engineer at dataroots — for a full recap of KubeCon Europe 2025 and a deep dive into the current and future state of Kubernetes.We talk through what’s actually happening in the Kubernetes ecosystem — from platform engineering trends to AI infra challenges — and why some teams are doubling down while others are stepping away.Here’s what we cover:What Kubernetes actually is, and how to explain it beyond the buzzwordWhen Kubernetes is the right choice (e.g., hybrid environments, GPU-heavy workloads) — and when it’s overkillHow teams are trying to host LLMs and AI models on Kubernetes, and the blockers they’re hitting (GPUs, complexity, cost)GitOps innovations spotted at KubeCon — like tools that convert UI clicks into Git commits for infrastructure-as-codeWhy observability is still one of Kubernetes’ biggest weaknesses, and how a wave of new startups are trying to solve itThe push to improve developer experience for ML and data teams (no more YAML overload)The debate around abstraction vs control — and how some teams are turning away from Kubernetes entirely in favor of simpler toolsWhat “vibe coding” means in an LLM-driven world, and how voice-to-code workflows are changing how we write infrastructureWhether the future of Kubernetes is more “visible and accessible,” or further under the hoodIf you're a data engineer, MLOps practitioner, platform lead, or simply trying to stay ahead of the curve in infrastructure and AI — this episode is packed with relevant insights from someone who's hands-on with both the tools and the teaching.

Jul 3, 2025 • 37min
#85 From CDO to author: Jackie Janssen on the evolution of AI and implications for business and society
Send us a textWelcome to the cozy corner of the tech world! Datatopics is your go-to spot for relaxed discussions around tech, news, data, and society.This week, co-host Ben is joined by Jackie Janssen, former Chief Data Officer at CM, author of AI: De Hype Voorbij, and an evangelist for pragmatic, human-centered AI. Together, they trace the winding path from early tech roles to enterprise transformation, exploring how AI can actually serve humans (and not just the hype machine).In this episode:Leadership in AI transformation: From KBC to CM, lessons on creating cultural buy-in.Building effective data teams: Why the first hire isn’t always a data engineer.AI governance: What makes a strong AI Council and why CEOs should care.Product and process thinking: How MLOps, data factories, and product mindsets intersect.Agents and autonomy: The future of work with AI teammates, not just tools.The human edge in a machine world: A preview of Jackie’s next book on rediscovering humanity in the age of AI.Curious about Jackie’s take on AI agents, cultural inertia, or what really makes a great data strategy tick? Tune in, you might just find a new way to think about your tech stack and your team.

Jun 12, 2025 • 1h 1min
#84 Let’s Get Meta: Why the Metadata You Ignore Might Be Costing You - with Special Guest Corentin
Send us a textWelcome to the cozy corner of the tech world where ones and zeros mingle with casual chit-chat. Datatopics Unpluggedis your go-to spot for relaxed discussions around tech, news, data, and society.Dive into conversations that should flow as smoothly as your morning coffee (but don’t), where industry insights meet laid-back banter. Whether you're a data aficionado or just someone curious about the digital age, pull up a chair, relax, and let's get into the heart of data—unplugged style!In this episode, we dig deep into a concept everyone pretends to understand: metadata. Joined by our guest Corentin, we unpack what it really means, why it’s more than just “data about data,” and how to make metadata management less of a formality and more of a value driver.Expect hot takes, real-world metaphors, and zero tolerance for shelfware strategies as we cover:Defining metadata: Beyond the buzzphrase, into systems thinkingMetadata vs. data governance: Why this split often misses the pointShop-floor pragmatism: What lean thinking brings to metadata workflowsCommon traps: Like starting with tools instead of actual pain pointsDriving value: From tribal knowledge to structured, sustainable processesWhether you're managing a data platform or just wondering why your data catalog feels like a graveyard, this one’s for you.

Apr 11, 2025 • 51min
#83 Who’s Minding the Metadata? Why Data Quality Matters in GenAI (Quality Time With Paolo)
Send us a textWelcome to the cozy corner of the tech world where ones and zeros mingle with casual chit-chat. Datatopics Unplugged is your go-to spot for relaxed discussions around tech, news, data, and society.Dive into conversations that should flow as smoothly as your morning coffee (but don't), where industry insights meet laid-back banter. Whether you're a data aficionado or just someone curious about the digital age, pull up a chair, relax, and let's get into the heart of data, unplugged style!In this episode, host Murilo is joined by returning guest Paolo, Data Management Team Lead at dataroots, for a deep dive into the often-overlooked but rapidly evolving domain of unstructured data quality. Tune in for a field guide to navigating documents, images, and embeddings without losing your sanity.What we unpack:Data management basics: Metadata, ownership, and why Excel isn’t everything.Structured vs unstructured data: How the wild west of PDFs, images, and audio is redefining quality.Data quality challenges for LLMs: From apples and pears to rogue chatbots with “legally binding” hallucinations.Practical checks for document hygiene: Versioning, ownership, embedding similarity, and tagging strategies.Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG): When ChatGPT meets your HR policies and things get weird.Monitoring and governance: Building systems that flag rot before your chatbot gives out 2017 vacation rules.Tooling and gaps: Where open source is doing well—and where we’re still duct-taping workflows.Real-world inspirations: A look at how QuantumBlack (McKinsey) is tackling similar issues with their AI for DQ framework.

Mar 20, 2025 • 1h 21min
#82 AI Cracked a Decades-Old Science Problem & Europe’s Push for Digital Sovereignty, The Secret Behind MCP, and The Cloud Hack That Slashes Costs By 62%.
Send us a textWelcome to the cozy corner of the tech world where ones and zeros mingle with casual chit-chat. DataTopics Unpluggedis your go-to spot for relaxed discussions around tech, news, data, and society.Dive into conversations that should flow as smoothly as your morning coffee (but don’t), where industry insights meet laid-back banter. Whether you're a data aficionado or just someone curious about the digital age, pull up a chair, relax, and let's get into the heart of data—unplugged style!In this episode:OpenAI asks White House for AI regulation relief: OpenAI seeks federal-level AI policy exceptions in exchange for transparency. But is this a sign they’re losing momentum?Hot take: GPT-4.5 is a ‘nothing burger’: Is GPT-4.5 actually an upgrade, or just a well-marketed rerun?Claude 3.7 & Blowing €100 in Two Days: One of the hosts tests Claude extensively—and racks up a pricey bill. Was it worth it?OpenAI’s Deep Research: How does OpenAI’s new research tool compare to Perplexity?AI cracks superbug problem in two days: AI speeds up decades of scientific research—should we be impressed or concerned?European tech coalition demands ‘radical action’ on digital sovereignty: Big names like Airbus and Proton push for homegrown European tech.Migrating from AWS to a European cloud: A real-world case study on cutting costs by 62%—is it worth the trade-offs?Docs by the French government: A Notion alternative for open-source government collaboration.Why people hate note-taking apps: A deep dive into the frustrations with Notion, Obsidian, and alternatives.Model Context Protocol (MCP): How MCP is changing AI tool integrations—and why OpenAI isn’t on board (yet).OpenRouter.ai: The one-stop API for switching between AI models. Does it live up to the hype?OTDiamond.ai: A multi-LLM approach that picks the best model for your queries to balance cost and performance.Are you polite to AI?: Study finds most people say "please" to ChatGPT—good manners or fear of the AI uprising?AI refusing to do your work?: A hilarious case of an AI refusing to generate code because it "wants you to learn."And finally, a big announcement—DataTopics Unplugged is evolving! Stay tuned for an updated format and a fresh take on tech discussions.

Feb 27, 2025 • 1h 13min
#81 AI Code Assistants: The Good, The Bad & The Overhyped, plus Python’s UV Glow-Up & Postman’s Existential Crisis
Discover the latest in AI-assisted coding, exploring how LLMs can enhance or complicate the programming world. Dive into tools like Cline and Cursor, debating their impact on developer productivity. Reflect on the evolution of Python's UV package manager and its emerging role in the community. Consider the balance between software quality and user experience, along with the importance of human intuition in a tech-driven landscape. Plus, enjoy some light-hearted generational humor about how slang evolves over time!

Feb 20, 2025 • 1h 7min
#80 AI Agents Run Wild, DeepSeek Breaks Records, Polars Cloud Expands, and Perplexity Reinvents Search
Send us a textWelcome to the cozy corner of the tech world where ones and zeros mingle with casual chit-chat. DataTopics Unpluggedis your go-to spot for relaxed discussions on tech, news, data, and society.This week, we’re unpacking everything from AI-powered vacations (or the lack thereof) to corporate drama, and even a deep dive into the quirks of COBOL. Join Morillo, Bart, and Alex as they navigate the latest happenings in data and tech, including:Airbnb AI: The CEO of Airbnb thinks AI trip planning is still a pipe dream. Is he right?Anthropic’s next AI model: A new Claude model could be just weeks away, promising a hybrid of deep reasoning and speed.OpenAI’s roadmap: Sam Altman lays out vague but ambitious plans, blurring the lines between AI models.Elon vs. OpenAI: Musk offers $97B for OpenAI, Altman claps back. Just another day in AI power struggles.RIP Viktor Antonov: The legendary art lead behind Half-Life 2 and Dishonored passes away at 52.Project Sid AI agents: 1,000 AI agents left to their own devices in Minecraft… What could go wrong?DeepSeek R1 breaks speed records: The latest AI model boasts a staggering 198 tokens per second.Perplexity’s Deep Research is now free: A game-changer for AI-powered search? We discuss.COBOL and the mystery of 1875-05-20: Why do old systems default to weird dates?Polars Cloud: A new distributed architecture to run Polars anywhere.Pickle AI avatars: Deepfake yourself into meetings. Ethical? Useful? Just plain weird?Vim after Bram: How the legendary text editor is surviving after its creator’s passing.Working Fast and Slow: A take on productivity, deep focus, and why some days just don’t work.We were wrong about GPUs: Fly.io admits they misjudged the demand for GPU-powered workloads.

Feb 13, 2025 • 1h 8min
#79 The $6 AI Model? France’s $85B Bet, DeepSeek's Censorship & The Python Upgrades You Need
Send us a textWelcome to the cozy corner of the tech world where ones and zeros mingle with casual chit-chat. DataTopics Unpluggedis your go-to spot for relaxed discussions around tech, news, data, and society.Dive into conversations that should flow as smoothly as your morning coffee (but don’t), where industry insights meet laid-back banter. Whether you're a data aficionado or just someone curious about the digital age, pull up a chair, relax, and let's get into the heart of data, unplugged style!This week, we break down some of the biggest developments in AI, investments, and automation:France’s AI Boom: $85 billion in investments – A look at how a mix of international and domestic funds is fueling France’s AI ecosystem, and why Mistral AI might be Europe's best shot at competing with OpenAI.Anthropic’s AI Job Index: Who’s using AI at work? – A deep dive into the latest report on how AI is being used in different industries, from software development to education, and the surprising ways automation is creeping into unexpected jobs.The $6 AI Model: How low can costs go? – Researchers have managed to create a reasoning model for just $6. We unpack how they pulled it off and what this means for the AI landscape.AI Censorship & Model Distillation: What’s really going on? – A discussion on recent claims that certain AI models come with baked-in censorship, and whether fine-tuning is playing a bigger role than we think.PromptLayer’s No-Code AI Tools – Are no-code AI development platforms the next big thing?Predicted Outputs: OpenAI’s approach to efficient code editing – A look at how OpenAI’s "Predicted Outputs" feature could make AI-assisted coding more efficient.MacOS System Monitoring & Dev Tooling: The geeky stuff – A breakdown of system monitoring tools for Mac users who love to keep an eye on every process running in the background.Snapshot Testing with Birdie – Exploring the concept of snapshot testing beyond UI testing and into function outputs.BeeWare & the Python Ecosystem – A look at how BeeWare is helping Python developers build cross-platform applications.Astral, Ruff, and UV: Python’s performance evolution – The latest from Charlie Marsh on the tools shaping Python development.

Feb 6, 2025 • 45min
#78 The AI Act Lands, Meta Pauses, OpenAI Complains & DeepSeek Rises
Send us a textWelcome to the cozy corner of the tech world where ones and zeros mingle with casual chit-chat. Data Topics Unpluggedis your go-to spot for relaxed discussions on tech, news, data, and society.This week, we’re joined by returning guest Tim Leers, who helps us navigate the ever-evolving landscape of AI regulation, open-source controversies, and the battle for the future of large language models.Expect deep dives, hot takes, and a sprinkle of existential dread as we discuss:The EU AI Act and its ripple effects – What does it actually change? And is Meta pulling back on AI development because of it?Meta’s “Frontier AI” framework – A strategic move or just regulatory camouflage?OpenAI vs. the world – From copyright drama to OpenAI accusing competitors of using its models, is this just karma in action?DeepSeek and global AI competition – Why are government agencies banning it, and is it really a game-changer?The EU’s AI investment plans – Can Europe ever catch up, or is 1.5 billion euros just a drop in the compute ocean?OpenAI’s sudden love for open source – Sam Altman says they were on the "wrong side of history." Are they really changing, or is this just another strategic pivot?OpenAI’s latest tech update – we discuss Tim’s experience with o3 and show it liveAll that, plus some existential musings on AI’s role in society, competitive dynamics between the US, EU, and China, and whether we’re all just picking our preferred bias in a world of competing LLMs.Got thoughts? Drop us a comment or question—we might even read it on the next episode!