The Living Process. Practices in Experience and Existence

Dr Greg Madison
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Mar 7, 2025 • 1h 24min

Awakening to Embodied Living. The Living Process with guest Russell Delman and host Greg Madison. Episode 30

In this engaging discussion, Russell Delman, a respected Zen Buddhist meditation teacher and Feldenkrais expert, explores the transformative journey of embodied living. He emphasizes the importance of physical awareness and the power of 'not-knowing' in personal growth. Listeners learn about Moshé Feldenkrais's influential methods and the delicate balance between outrage and constructive action in activism. Delman also highlights compassionate listening and navigating life's uncertainties, urging us to embrace both joy and suffering on our paths to self-discovery.
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Jan 24, 2025 • 1h 17min

Focusing during wartime with Dan Schachter on The Living Process with Greg Madison

Focusing during wartime with Dan Schachter on The Living Process with Greg Madison. E29 Welcome to this episode of The Living Process, following quite soon on the last episode because of the topical nature of my conversation with Dan.  In our conversation, we speak mainly about the experience of living within the conflict between Israel and Palestine. We also talk about Dan’s gradual transition from psychoanalysis to experiential therapy back in the early 1990s. Dan has trained in Somatic Experiencing and EMDR and works in a trauma clinic as well as privately.  We touched on what it is like to work as a clinical psychologist with clients who might have a very different perspective on the war going on around them. What it is like to be living in a society that is undergoing such a deep crisis which all clients and therapists are affected by on a daily basis? Dan talks about how crucial felt sensing, TAE, and Gendlin’s underlying experiential philosophy have been as a resource in his attempts to navigate the complexity of feelings and attitudes amongst Israelis. We acknowledge how difficult it is to hold the tension between one’s own truth and wanting to remain open to the nuances of other opinions with an awareness that even in this podcast we are inevitably stepping into this minefield of judgment and criticism. Dan mentions his participation in PsychoActive, a mental health group for human rights opposed to the occupation of Palestinian territory, and how taking such a stance does not close him to being curious about other ways of experiencing all that is happening in his region of the world.   Dan Schachter,  Is originally from Norway and has lived in Israel for many years, speaking English, Hebrew, and Norwegian fluently. Dan is a Focusing coordinator, a Focusing Oriented Therapist, and a clinical psychologist in private practice. He teaches Focusing, TAE (Thinking at the Edge) and the philosophy of the implicit and is well known in the Focusing community for his contributions to various projects including the International Focusing Institute Certification Weeklong core faculty. You can contact Dan at: DanS545@gmail.com  Episode 29 of The Living Process with guest, Dan Schachter. Focusing during wartime:  https://youtu.be/-jOAy_vYgPE The Living Process - all episodes and podcast links: https://www.londonfocusing.com/the-living-process/ Greg’s YouTube video channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC0TgN6iVu3n9d9q2l43z1xBMYY3p9FQL The Living Process on the FOT Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLx3FqA70kQWuHCHmEiZnkn1VcrRIPbcvk #somaticexperience  #trauma  #Focusing  #Gendlin  #Bodytherapy  #warzone #israel #gaza #existentialism   #Experientialpractice  #bodymind   #thelivingprocess #psychotherapy #mindfulness
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Jan 12, 2025 • 1h 21min

Focusing and Self-Discovery with Jeffrey Morrison on The Living Process

Focusing and Self-Discovery with Jeffrey Morrison on The Living Process with Greg Madison. Episode 28 In this episode, I welcome Jeffrey Morrison who is well-known in our community as a Focusing Oriented Therapist and Teacher of Focusing. Jeffrey and I outline his interesting journey from philosophy and theology through existential-phenomenological therapy into the world of Focusing and Gendlin’s philosophy. We discuss the importance of structure when teaching a natural process, as well as psychedelics and the role of death awareness in developing spirituality. We touch on Jeffrey’s interest in trauma, neuroscience, the role of the physical body, and also how Focusing can help us avoid joining the polarised conflicts that are plaguing our world. Jeffrey studied philosophy, and religion before concentrating on psychology after being exposed to Focusing. He has worked in various settings with adolescents, parents, and teachers. He has trained in Family System Therapy, Adlerian Psychology, meditation, aspects of Feldenkrais, Zen, and recently co-wrote a chapter on Polyvagal Theory and trauma. He operates his clinical practice as well as offering certifying courses in FOT in Seattle and Vashon Island, Washington, as well as online. He is a Certifying Coordinator with The International Focusing Institute. Episode 28, The Living Process with guest Jeffrey Morrison https://youtu.be/l9eLZ6pfg3k The Living Process - all episodes and podcast links: https://www.londonfocusing.com/the-living-process/ YouTube video channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC0TgN6iVu3n9d9q2l43z1xBMYY3p9FQL The Living Process on the FOT Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLx3FqA70kQWuHCHmEiZnkn1VcrRIPbcvk For more information on Jeffrey and his work: Seattle Focusing https://seattlefocusing.org Morrison Therapy https://morrisontherapy.com Focusing-Oriented Therapy for the Treatment of Trauma (Jeffrey Morrison and Riley Patterson) in the edited book Experiential Therapies for Treating Trauma (Eds. Senreich, Straussner, Dann, Routledge 2025). #somaticexperience#trauma#Focusing#Gendlin#Bodytherapy#Zen#Experientialpractice#bodymind #thelivingprocess#buddhist #psychotherapy#mindfulness #spiritualawakening #experientialpractice #thelivingprocess
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Dec 24, 2024 • 1h 9min

Energy Flow and the Pathless Path with Jonathan Foust on The Living Process with Greg Madison

The Living Process episode 27 with guest Jonathan Foust Energy Flow and The Pathless Path I’m very happy to welcome Jonathan Foust to this episode. Jonathan has a lifetime of spiritual practice to share. He has dedicated his life to yoga practices, Buddhist meditation, mindfulness practice as well as Focusing. In our conversation we touch on how Focusing fits with these various somatic practices and the spiritual understanding of energy flow in the body. Jonathan shares his own personal journey and questions such as what body are we working with and what does it mean to heal? We discuss Focusing as pointing to the pathless path and how close it is to the RAIN model as used by Jonathan and his wife, meditation teacher Tara Brach. We wondered whether therapy really offers much more than these other effective and compassionate approaches. Jonathan offers a weekly talk on his website and is working on guidance for being with physical pain. We end by talking a bit about how to respond to the uncertainties and suffering in contemporary societies.  Jonathan Foust, MA, CSA, is a guiding teacher with the Insight Meditation Community of Washington and a founder of the Meditation Teacher Training Institute in Washington. A senior teacher and former president of Kripalu Center, he leads retreats, trainings and classes around the United States and works individually with those interested in healing and spiritual awakening. He’s trained in a wide range of healing modalities, including Focusing (Certified Trainer), Kripalu Yoga, Trager Work, Cranio-Sacral, Reiki and Polarity Therapies to name a few. He has a Master of Arts in Education and certifications in Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction (MBSR), Focusing and Dharma practices. He has spent decades in Ashram and spiritual communities and now offers body-centred inquiry on retreats and intensives. For many years he has lived near Washington DC with his wife psychologist and mediation teacher Tara Brach.  Episode 27, The Living Process with guest Jonathan Foust: https://youtu.be/Fz19hg-4oVc The Living Process - all episodes and podcast links: https://www.londonfocusing.com/the-living-process/ Greg’s YouTube video channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC0TgN6iVu3n9d9q2l43z1xBMYY3p9FQL The Living Process on the FOT Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLx3FqA70kQWuHCHmEiZnkn1VcrRIPbcvk For more information on Jonathan, his talks and retreats, see his website and YouTube videos available at: https://www.jonathanfoust.com #somaticexperience  #trauma  #Focusing  #Gendlin  #Bodytherapy  #Zen  #Experientialpractice  #bodymind   #thelivingprocess #buddhist  #psychotherapy #mindfulness #jonathanfoust
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Dec 8, 2024 • 1h 29min

Paradigm Leaping with Rob Parker on The Living Process with Greg Madison

The Living Process Episode 26 with host Greg Madison  Guest Rob Parker Paradigm Leaping Welcome back to The Living Process. In this episode, Rob talks about his interests in philosophy, especially existentialism, from an early age and it was this interest, combined with his desire to help other young kids like himself, that led him to Gendlin. Rob’s first experience of the Focusing world was a 3-day Thinking at the Edge workshop with Gendlin at Stony Point. Unusually his interest in philosophy was his way into Focusing. We talk about Rob’s interest in ‘meaning’, his journey from the ideas of Gregory Bateson to Maurice Marleau-Ponty and Thomas Kuhn, and how these thinkers brought him to Gendlin and a unique opportunity to drop everything and learn from this new philosopher. In our conversation, we touched on how learning Focusing affected Rob’s therapy practice. He also talks about learning from Mary Hendricks Gendlin how to slow down and work with the felt sense in sessions and we touched upon the political and social implications of The Process Model. Rob mentioned his modification of the EXP scale and his use of Zen and Focusing to work with The Inner Critic.   Rob Parker is well-known in the Focusing world and beyond as a clear thinker representing Gendlin’s A Process Model and Gendlin’s other philosophies to a lay audience. He has a longterm interest in Zen, spirituality, and science. For years Rob was a practicing psychologist, originally in the existential tradition, specialising in psychological trauma. In 2000 Rob found the philosophy of Eugene Gendlin, which he dedicated himself to understanding by meeting Gendlin every week until Gendlin died in 2017.   For information on Rob, his workshops, and his writing on Gendlin’s philosophy, see: www.lifeforward.org Episode 26, The Living Process with guest Rob Parker: https://youtu.be/oAZh5uCe_Yo The Living Process - all episodes and podcast links: https://www.londonfocusing.com/the-living-process/ Greg’s YouTube video channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC0TgN6iVu3n9d9q2l43z1xBMYY3p9FQL The Living Process on the FOT Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLx3FqA70kQWuHCHmEiZnkn1VcrRIPbcvk #somaticexperience  #trauma  #Focusing  #Gendlin  #Bodytherapy  #Zen  #Experientialpractice  #bodymind   #thelivingprocess #existentialism #psychotherapy
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Nov 11, 2024 • 1h 14min

A Group Listening Revolution with Lynn Preston on The Living Process with Greg Madison E025

The Living Process Episode 25 Guest Lynn Preston A Group Listening Revolution Welcome back to The Living Process and this episode with my friend Lynn Preston. Lynn had just returned from a Psychoanalytic Self Psychology conference in Rome, having caught covid on the flight back, so you may notice that her voice is a bit husky but only her energy is infectious. In this conversation, we discussed how to translate between her very different therapeutic communities and what she values from Kohut’s psychoanalytic theories of development and the importance of empathy. Lynn mentioned a paper she wrote some time ago which attempts to bridge the different languages of Kohut and Gendlin’s understandings and it went over very well with her psychoanalytic colleagues. The link to that paper, The Edge of Awareness is below. Lynn and I spoke mostly about her Community Empowerment group work. We discussed revolutionary listening and how groups could evolve to allow us to talk about our differences. We mentioned the ‘carrying forward’ of the group process and how we know so little about this but one important principle according to Lynn is that not everyone has to agree. She suggests that we need Revolutionary Talking not just Revolutionary Listening in order to move beyond the dyad model. How can the practice of Focusing be expanded to practices of relating? How can the ‘us’ of the group make the individuals more of themselves rather than less. How can we map the challenges of group interaction in the way that in Focusing we have mapped how to work personally and as a dyad? Is mapping out the group process the next step for us in focusing? Lynn believes this is the year to bring this further development into the world. Episode 25 with Lynn Preston: https://youtu.be/tY0fRybIWcM Lynn Preston is well-known in the Self Psychology community and the Focusing Oriented Therapy community. She has spent years teaching and writing about both forms of therapy and had a long-standing friendship with Eugene Gendlin. Lynn's recent efforts have included her Community Empowerment initiative as well as spearheading the Focusing Therapy Youtube channel. Lynn's contacts: lynpres@aol.com http://www.lynnprestonforp.com The link to the paper we mention is here: The Edge of Awareness: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/247527307_The_Edge_of_Awareness_Gendlin's_Contribution_to_Explorations_of_Implicit_Experience Links to all videos and podcasts: https://www.londonfocusing.com/the-living-process/ Focusing Oriented Therapies YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLx3FqA70kQWuHCHmEiZnkn1VcrRIPbcvk
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Oct 26, 2024 • 1h 22min

Participatory Existence. Greg Madison in conversation with Mia Leijssen on The Living Process. E24

This is a different sort of episode of The Living Process where the usual host, Dr Greg Madison, swaps seats with Prof. Mia Leijssen and enters into a conversation about his own passions, experience, and history of Focusing. There were a few interruptions during the conversation which were edited out but referred to again at the end of the discussion, showing the importance of being able to find our way back from distractions to the felt sensing flow of a conversation. And of course, Elliott ensures he makes an appearance! The conversation turns out to be surprisingly personal while also commenting on Focusing oriented therapy and the uncommon integration of Focusing into existential practice. We touch on learning about self-disclosure from working in an acute hospital setting, the hope that listening skills can save our democracies from political polarisation, and the challenge of facing the end of life with awareness and presence. Thank you to Mia for her generosity in reaching out with this idea and her skill in deepening our conversation. Episode 24. Consistent Existence with Greg Madison: https://youtu.be/yke9KJttfFI All episodes of The Living Process: https://www.londonfocusing.com/the-living-process/ FOT Youtueb channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLx3FqA70kQWv_jrEOS0luVPVhiS5T1pus Dr Greg Madison is an existential psychologist, an Associate Fellow of the British Psychological Society, Focusing-oriented psychotherapist, and Coordinator for The International Focusing Institute. For some years Greg enjoys creative collaborations as an independent lecturer, contributing to various academic, community, and professional trainings internationally. He has written and co-edited books and articles on Existential Migration, Focusing Oriented Psychotherapy, Existential Therapy, and contemporary topics related to psychology and society. He is the founder of The London Focusing Institute, and maintains a client practice, teaching commitments, writing, and hosts The Living Process podcast. https://www.gregmadison.net https://www.londonfocusing.com Professor Mia Leijssen is the academic director of the massive Open Online Course: Existential Well-being Counseling: A Person-centered Experiential Approach. You can discover more about this course and contact Mia at these addresses: https://focusing.org/resources/mia-leijssen-fot-2023 www.existentieelwelzijn.be https://existentialwellbeing.com #focusing #gendlin #somaticexperience #existentialism #psychotherapy #existentialtherapy #experiential #gregmadison #thelivingprocess #death #focusingtherapy #personalgrowth
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Oct 11, 2024 • 1h 7min

Edges of Focusing and FOT. Nikos Kypriotakis & Judy Moore on The Living Process with Greg Madison

Delighted to welcome Judy and Nikos to this, episode 23 of The Living Process. Our guests are well known for their achievement of editing Senses of Focusing Volume 1 and 2, two fantastic resources featuring new writing and diverse perspectives on Focusing and FOT. In this episode, we discuss critiques of focusing, what is coming next for them both, and positive developments they would like to see happen in therapy generally and in the Focusing world. In our 3-way conversation, we touch on the way that other approaches like the person-centered approach, Internal Family Systems, or Emotion Focus Therapy might incorporate focusing as a technique without fully integrating the fundamental importance of the experiential response, felt sensing, and carrying forward. We touched on different words and understandings for theories of the body, for eg the Ancient Greek terms like 'pathos' and the difference it offers if we allow ancient philosophy to be experienced freshly. We raised questions regarding what we can do to be better understood by other traditions and to translate some of our discoveries so that therapists from other orientations can think further with them. How do we in FOT deal with abrupt or cathartic changes? How do we engage with theories? How can we build bridges with other therapeutic communities and philosophies? What is our view of the person? Is there a spiritual context for our understanding of human being? Can we stay open to other ways of thinking so that they stay open to us? What is the future of FOT and therapy? How to keep developing FOT ourselves after the work of Gendlin… In response to this Judy and Nikos are planning a series of seminars or a symposium to welcome critical thinking and deeper exploration of Focusing, FOT and our relationship to other ways of understanding. Nikolaos Kypriotakis has studied Physics and has been trained in Person-Centred & Focusing-Oriented Psychotherapy, Person-Centred Supervision and Children Focusing. He works as an FOT therapist and Focusing Trainer for the Hellenic Focusing Center and he is a Certifying Coordinator with The International Focusing Institute, New York. Together with Judy Moore he edited the collective work Senses of Focusing, Vol. I & II and has translated into Greek the book Focusing by Eugene T. Gendlin. He was the editor-in-chief of the magazine Εποχή-Epoché (Phenomenological Psychotherapies), for the issues n.1 to n.16. Judy Moore was originally trained in the classical Person-Centred Approach on the first PCA professional training in the UK. She taught on the postgraduate Diploma in Person-Centred Counselling at the University of East Anglia (UEA) throughout the 1990s before, thanks to the work of her colleague, Campbell Purton, finally discovering the extent of Gendlin’s contribution to the development of Client-Centred/ Person-Centred Therapy. As Director of the Centre for Counselling Studies at UEA she worked with Campbell to develop Focusing and FOT training at UEA in the early 2000s. UEA also hosted several conferences, including colloquiums on Gendlin’s philosophy. Judy is a Certifying Coordinator of The International Focusing Institute, working in private practice and as a freelance trainer and consultant. In 2021 she co-edited (with Nikolaos Kypriotakis) the two volumes of Senses of Focusing. https://sensesoffocusing.weebly.com Focusing book in Greek translation: https://bit.ly/3Y9BtwM #bodytherapy #focusing #gendlin #experientialpractice #somaticexperience #psychotherapy #counseling #psychology #personalgrowth #rodgers
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Sep 26, 2024 • 1h 12min

Untangling, with Barbara McGavin and Ann Weiser Cornell on The Living Process with Greg Madison

Ann and Barbara Untangling on The Living Process with Greg Madison. Episode 22  I am excited to launch the new season of The Living Process with guests Barbara McGavin and Ann Weiser Cornell, a very well-known partnership within the Focusing world and beyond. Barbara and Ann are both accomplished Focusing teachers, having developed the model of Inner Relationship Focusing and Treasure Maps to the Soul,  but they are also writers and in this episode, we talk about their first book together, Untangling. Untangling offers a very helpful description of the experience of being caught within some of life's most difficult and stuck patterns. The book then offers some specific skills and attitudes we can develop to help us release even these seemingly intractable dilemmas.   In this episode, we talk about how we get stuck inside of 'a tangle' and how we cannot solve or think our way out of it. Many of us can spend our lives within tangles, with no full sense of who we are. We talk about how these tangles always involve other people and how the key to loosening their grip is to develop 'self in presence'. Tangles are seen as a stoppage in process not a problem in understanding. It is a fascinating take on felt sensing and working with parts which I am sure Focusing people and those new to experiential approaches will find valuable.  Barbara McGavin and Ann Weiser Cornell have been discovering the processes of change that became Untangling® since 1994. Since then they’ve had the pleasure of offering Untangling® retreats and online classes for people seeking transformation all over the world. They are also the co-developers of Inner Relationship Focusing. Barbara has a background in humanistic psychology, teaching, fine art, and graphic design. Ann has a background in linguistics and humanistic psychology. They are both Coordinators with The International Focusing Institute. The Book: Untangling. How you can transform what's impossibly stuck. By Barbara McGavin and Ann Weiser Cornell https://focusingresources.com/learning/untangling-how-you-can-transform-whats-impossibly-stuck/ Courses on Untangling: https://focusingresources.com/learning/the-untangling-intensive/ Untangling with Barbara and Ann. Episode 22 of The Living Process: https://youtu.be/wUnvAlYHaGk The Living Process - all episodes and podcast links: https://www.londonfocusing.com/the-living-process/ The Living Process on the FOT Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLx3FqA70kQWuHCHmEiZnkn1VcrRIPbcvk  #somaticexperience #trauma #Focusing #Gendlin #Bodytherapy #Innerrelationship #Experientialpractice #parts #ifs #untangling #annweiser #barbaramcgavin #thelivingprocess 
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Jul 15, 2024 • 1h 9min

The Way of Curiosity with Peter Gill on The Living Process with Greg Madison

The Way of Curiosity with Peter Gill. E21 of The Living Process with Greg Madison I’m very happy to offer episode 21 of The Living Process with guest Peter Gill, a UK Focusing teacher and Coordinator. Peter came across Focusing in 2003, and he teaches Focusing as an approach to living, much more than just a therapeutic tool. Peter became a Focusing teacher in 2005 and is certified with the British Focusing Association (BFA) and a Coordinator with the Focusing Institute. Peter trained with Ann Weiser Cornell in "Inner Relationship Focusing" and Peter Afford in the UK. Peter also has a background practising and teaching awareness and meditation skills to groups and individuals in a Buddhist context. Peter is qualified in  Somatic Experiencing (SE), and has more recently been training in nature connection and in holding grief circles with Azul Valérie Thomé in Devon. He is currently training to be a Forest Guide. This episode centres around Peter’s wonderful new book, The Way of Curiosity but Peter also teaches Focusing to individuals and groups - for more information on his teaching and his new book see: https://www.livingfocusing.co.uk In this episode Peter and I talk about his entrance into Focusing and how from the beginning it was a natural form of living practice for him. We touch upon his deep engagement with ecological and environmental work including facilitating nature connection, forrest bathing, and work on Focusing and climate change. We also discuss his interest in death awareness and openness to the everyday grieving implied in life. We touch upon his training in Somatic Experiencing and trauma. Many of these topics are covered in his beautifully-written book where he introduces the practice of Focusing to the general public in a way that feels natural and not like a special technique. I highly recommend it!  #somaticexperience #trauma #Focusing #Gendlin #Bodytherapy #buddhist #Experientialpractice #grief #environmentaltherapy #ecologicalwork #natureconnection #thewayofcuriosity #thelivingprocess 

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