

Normalizing Non-Monogamy - Interviews in Polyamory and Swinging
Emma and Fin
Hi! We’re Emma and Fin! We’re a married couple in our thirties who have been exploring non-monogamy for over 15 years. Every week we interview people from across the spectrums of gender, sexuality, and relationship styles to hear their amazing stories.
Many of our guests identify as swingers or polyamorous. However, quite a few have redefined non-monogamy in their own way by creating a unique dynamic that works for them. We hope that by giving a voice to the diverse community exploring non-monogamy that we can show people they are not alone and inspire them to embrace their true selves so that, together, we can open minds and live authentically without shame.
We hope you enjoy the show and who knows, maybe someday you’ll even be up for sharing your own story. We’d love to hear it!
Many of our guests identify as swingers or polyamorous. However, quite a few have redefined non-monogamy in their own way by creating a unique dynamic that works for them. We hope that by giving a voice to the diverse community exploring non-monogamy that we can show people they are not alone and inspire them to embrace their true selves so that, together, we can open minds and live authentically without shame.
We hope you enjoy the show and who knows, maybe someday you’ll even be up for sharing your own story. We’d love to hear it!
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Apr 7, 2021 • 1h 5min
Ep 175 - Axel
Axel and his wife opened their relationship a few years ago after she came to him and let him know that she had fallen in love with another guy. This was a wakeup call that they had put their marriage on cruise control and that something had to change. Over the last few years they have rethought their entire approach to the relationship and their lives overall. Now they’re happily married and have found a way to blend swinging, polyamory, and BDSM into an intentional and dynamic relationship that is thriving. We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did.
Axel has also written a book called Marriage and Beyond (Note: We said the incorrect name during the show, the book is not Rethinking Relationships), that will be published soon. He has taken all of the information he has learned throughout his journey, combined it with interviews from others who are exploring and studying non-monogamy, and consolidated it into an incredible resource for us all. Please check out his website to sign up for the pre-launch and support this incredible work
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Mar 31, 2021 • 1h 10min
Ep 174 - 4OURPLAY (Bella + Jase)
This is a beautiful conversation about self-discovery, personal growth, and creating the relationship that works best for you regardless of what others think. Bella and Jase are high school sweethearts who have been together for over 13 years and opened up their relationship about six years ago while they were in their early twenties. They also have a podcast called 4OURPLAY and have created a series of ice breaker games. If you'd like to save 10% on everything on their website, you can use the code NNM. Enjoy!
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Mar 24, 2021 • 1h 3min
Ep 173 - Leanne
Leanne is 22 years old and has been exploring non-monogamy in various capacities for the last five years. Her perspectives on love, life, and self worth are truly beautiful and we're so excited to be able to get her story and positive approach out into the world. One of the other things we love about this conversation is that Leanne is sort of at the forefront of a shift to creating more inclusive and diverse spaces for sex parties and events. She shares some of her incredible strategies with all of us! And, last but not least, she runs an amazing blog and Instagram account called Polyphilia, definitely go and check it out!
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Mar 17, 2021 • 1h 4min
Ep 172 - Sylvie + Jeff
Sylvie and Jeff have been together over 17 years and exploring variations of non-monogamy for about four of them. They really jumped in with both feet after going to a sex club together while doing research for a book Sylvie was writing. They have a super fun story and bring such positive energy to everything they do. Sylvie is writing a trilogy called More. The first book, Fun, is out now and available on Amazon!
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Mar 10, 2021 • 1h 8min
Ep 171 - Pearl
Pearl is in her early thirties and has been exploring polyamory for a little over two years. She describes her introduction to non-monogamy as being poly under duress. Her ex-fiancé brought up the idea of threesomes and a triad and she felt she didn't really have much of a choice other than to go along with it. Two years later, she is on her own solo poly journey and has grown and learned so much about herself along the way. This is a beautiful conversation and we hope you enjoy it.
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Feb 24, 2021 • 1h 24min
Ep 169 - Alice + Sam
This conversation with Alice and Sam is absolutely beautiful. For them, life is about having incredible experiences with amazing people from all over the world. They have spent the last four years together globetrotting and building a global network of open-minded people using their Instagram account. Their open-minded approach to living life to the fullest and exploring together is enviable and something to aspire to. We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we enjoyed having it. Remember to go find them on Instagram and keep up with their adventures.
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Feb 17, 2021 • 1h 27min
Ep 168 - Life on the Swingset (Cooper)
Cooper is a polyamorous queer author and podcaster who has been exploring non-monogamy for over a decade. He started the Life on the Swingset podcast with his close friend Dylan just nine months into his journey. It began with him and his wife both individually expressing to their therapist that they wanted to sleep with other people. Eventually they shared this scary revelation with each other and started an incredible adventure together. Over the last 10+ years his journey has evolved many times and as he puts it, opening his marriage was the single most impactful decision he's ever made in his entire life.
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Feb 12, 2021 • 1h 5min
Power of Witness 1.6 - Reflections
Welcome back to the Power of Witness Series!
This is the final episode of the series in which all of the participants reflect back on the experience and talk about their takeaways and what lays ahead for them. If you haven't listened to the introduction episode for the Power of Witness series yet, we highly recommend it before jumping into this episode.
Power of Witness is a collaboration project with Catherine from Expansive Connection. She is a licensed counselor and relationship coach who works with people that are exploring consensual non-monogamy.
Power of Witness is a group coaching course in which each week a different couple is on the "hot seat" and will work one - on - one with Catherine while the other couples in the group "witness" them and then provide feedback at the end of their session. Specifically, for this series we have brought back four couples who have previously shared their stories on the podcast to sit on the hot seat over the the next four weeks. This isn't our traditional format but it was incredibly powerful for us as we joined them for the journey and we know it will be impactful for you as well.
In psychology, the term “bearing witness” refers to sharing ourselves and our experiences with others or holding space while others share themselves and their experiences with us. There is much we can learn when we are brave enough to open our hearts to one another. Witnessing another person and being witnessed are both gifts to the other person and to ourselves. Being on either side of witnessing is a powerful opportunity for growth through acknowledgement, understanding, and skill acquisition.
If you are interested in joining a future cohort (that will not be on the podcast) you can save $20 by clicking here to sign up. There are multiple cohort dates available, check it out now!
To access the entire Power of Witness series before it is released publicly, please join us in our Patreon community for as little as $2/mo by clicking here.
Check out the full show notes here.
https://www.normalizingnonmonogamy.com/
Catherine's Relationship Bootcamp Self-Study Course
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Feb 10, 2021 • 1h 5min
Ep 167 - Anna+ Groot
Anna and Groot met at a munch about four years ago while she was married and Groot was starting to explore non-monogamy. Since then, they have become primary partners and are currently in a mono - poly dynamic. They share some amazing insight with us into how this dynamic evolved and how it is the healthiest relationship either of them have ever been in. Groot also is a hobbyist writer on Literotica and wanted us to share this link to his work. Enjoy!
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Feb 5, 2021 • 1h 40min
Power of Witness 1.5 - Laura + Casey
Welcome back to the Power of Witness Series!
This week we have Laura and Casey on the hot seat. They shared their story on our show on Episode 105. If you haven't listened to the introduction episode for the Power of Witness series yet, we highly recommend it before jumping into this episode.
Power of Witness is a collaboration project with Catherine from Expansive Connection. She is a licensed counselor and relationship coach who works with people that are exploring consensual non-monogamy.
Power of Witness is a group coaching course in which each week a different couple is on the "hot seat" and will work one - on - one with Catherine while the other couples in the group "witness" them and then provide feedback at the end of their session. Specifically, for this series we have brought back four couples who have previously shared their stories on the podcast to sit on the hot seat over the the next four weeks. This isn't our traditional format but it was incredibly powerful for us as we joined them for the journey and we know it will be impactful for you as well.
In psychology, the term “bearing witness” refers to sharing ourselves and our experiences with others or holding space while others share themselves and their experiences with us. There is much we can learn when we are brave enough to open our hearts to one another. Witnessing another person and being witnessed are both gifts to the other person and to ourselves. Being on either side of witnessing is a powerful opportunity for growth through acknowledgement, understanding, and skill acquisition.
If you are interested in joining a future cohort (that will not be on the podcast) you can save $20 by clicking here to sign up. There are multiple cohort dates available, check it out now!
To access the entire Power of Witness series before it is released publicly, please join us in our Patreon community for as little as $2/mo by clicking here.
Check out the full show notes here.
https://www.normalizingnonmonogamy.com/
Catherine's Relationship Bootcamp Self-Study Course
Join Our Patreon Community!
$10 Off - Online STI Testing